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Are Doctors Rich? $$$ Physicians vs. UPS Drivers

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Doctors vs. UPS Drivers: Who Makes More Money? The answer may surprise you. Don't discount that to become a doctor you must go to 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 3-7 years of residency. That translates to a great deal of opportunity cost, lost income earning potential, and student debt. Link to excel sheet finances: http://medschoolinsiders.com/pre-med/are-doctors-rich-vs-ups-drivers/ Become an Insider! Visit https://patreon.com/medschoolinsiders Connect with me WEBSITE: https://medschoolinsiders.com TWITTER: https://twitter.com/MedInsiders FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/medschoolinsiders INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/medschoolinsiders Music: http://soundcloud.com/lakeyinspired Sources: MedScape Physician Compensation Report 2017: http://www.medscape.com/slideshow/compensation-2017-overview-6008547#2 UPS Average Salary: http://www.truckdriverssalary.com/ups-driver-salary/ Physician vs UPS Driver Comparison: http://www.er-doctor.com/doctor_income.html Disclaimer: Content of Med School Insiders is my opinion and does not constitute medical advice. The content and associated links provide general information for general educational purposes only.
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james jones (3 days ago)
These guys are doctors so it’s true. However, most jobs I research offer great sign on bonuses (100k) which if you’re smart can pay at least half of your student loans!
Anonymous Gaming (17 days ago)
No woman on earth is going to pick a UPS driver over a Doctor at least not in NYC....debate me 🎯
Kevin A. (27 days ago)
Why is it that with 217,000$ dollars per year and you can't pay off 185,000$ in 1 or 2 years max ? Living on 32,000 for one year should be enough to pay it off its not that hard because It's the living wage in some of the most expensive states in the country.
sato88888888 (1 month ago)
Very entertaining video. The truth is that my colleagues buy commercial buildings, restaurants, you name it.
Charles Belle (2 months ago)
This video comes from the life experience of a doctor, and it makes this comparison extremely poorly on account of failing to examine the limitations of that perspective. Others have mentioned one or two issues, but the overarching problem is that the narrator considers the realistic career trajectory of a doctor, but not of the UPS driver. What's left out in analyzing the driver's lifetime income is substantial and completely reverses this analysis. If you become a doctor, you will have made more money by 60 and lived a much easier life for it. It isn't even close. Now that doesn't mean that every graduating high school senior should make med school their "Plan A". You can't just make yourself a doctor by working hard enough. The real pitfall in that life plan is that the number of doctors in the United States is far too limited. You'll likely get excluded from the career path, and earning middle class income with added debt, long before you start making the big money. However, the amount of time it takes to become an over-the-road driver employed directly by UPS is longer than it takes to become a doctor or even a specialist. The current seniority cut-off for even putting your name in for a full time position is 15 years at many hubs. By the time someone starting now has worked those 15 years, a couple more years will be added onto that total. If you do wait, if you want it, and you work hard, you will eventually get it. But it doesn't happen at 18. Start that graph with the kid making $13/hr for 5 hours per night and increasing by $0.50 per year until they become the $80k/year driver at age 35. Labor positions also can't just selectively work more to make more money without limit. Overtime opportunities exist, but you can't just plan to work 80 hours or even 60. Even after become a driver, 80 hours is not happening just because you want it to make your comparison look more interesting. Realistically, the labor job (driving or package handling) is not going to leave you in a place to "want" to work those extra hours. Management and skilled professions are much easier to scale up your time usage to make more money; after a certain point in a physical job, it isn't possible. The "lots of overtime" versions of the graph should have the pre-driving, part-time years capped at 35 hrs (with time-and-a-half above 25 hrs/week) and the driver at 60 as a maximum, with the 80 hour analysis thrown in the trash. Drivers who work that much are contractors or they own their own truck, both of which involve different risks and upfront costs (just like becoming a doctor) and don't necessarily always pay as well or as consistently as full-time driving for a company. The most egregious sin in this video is the savings comparison, though. People who make more money save more money. They even save a higher percentage of their income. You have the doctor making hundreds of thousands of extra dollars per year saving for a $30k/year retirement at a normal retirement age. That's ridiculous. The biggest advantage of making more money is that your financial decisions are driven by want, not need. The whole point of this comparison is for someone who wants to have greater lifetime earnings. If that's what you want, take the job that pays $100k more per year and save most of that difference. Realistically, doctors save at least a large portion of the difference. This goes beyond even the general problems of this video because it adds unrealistic assumptions about the doctor's lifetime earnings. Do you save $5500 per year as a doctor, narrator? If not, you know that you made this comparison dishonestly. The purpose of this trick is to give an extra savings boost to the drivers (who start their flat $5500 savings earlier) because even your blind ignorance of the driver's career trajectory was not enough to pull off your predetermined conclusion. The reality of the impact of the ability to save is exactly the opposite of what you say. Doctors have more ability to save extra money. Like your overall comparison, it isn't close. To top it all off, "the results may surprise you" that you still couldn't pull of your trick. Even with willful optimistic ignorance about the driver career path and blatant dishonesty about savings rates, the rank and file primary care doctor still makes a million dollars more for a job that doesn't wreck their body. I understand that analyses like this need to work from assumptions, but they also need to present consistent and reality-based reasoning for why the author chose these assumptions. Using actual pay rates and knowing the doctor's career path from personal experience are the only places this video even accidentally accomplishes that.
acorn sucks (2 months ago)
Not if you suck, you have to be good and have a private practice.
Chae Yi (2 months ago)
i just started working at UPS as a driver. This is one of the highest paying, best benefit job you can have without a college degree. UPS also pays pension after you retire with 25 years of service, there aren't that many companies paying pension anymore. If you start working at UPS at 21yr age, you can easily retire at 46 with a couple of millions in your bank account with a bit of help from 401k and stock market AND collect that monthly pension, life set.
Matthew Liu (3 months ago)
thanks for the video as always
shahub5 (3 months ago)
Those averages are trash for the doctor salaries
Pedro P (4 months ago)
This video should be title “ I want viewers please” doctor vs UPS driver s that a joke or you high on dope
lavatown mafia (4 months ago)
yes
Deborah Park (4 months ago)
The excel link leads to “page not found”.
Deplorable American (4 months ago)
It make no sense at all to compare a medical professional with a high school  graduate UPS driver  at any point (most of the UPS truck driver are high schoolgraduate).
mrbam88 (5 months ago)
This is all wrong! You must be a terrible doctor if you can't do simple math lol Comparing a truck driver to a physician salary is like comparing apples and oranges. There is a book called "Damned Lies and Statistics: Untangling Numbers from the Media, Politicians, and Activists".... 1) The power of compound interest is a bitch. Especially considering you forget import initial variables. Drivers don't start at $45 per hour. They (just like everyone else) starts off at entry level salary which is more like $28 per hour for at least 5-10 years. Plus your also comparing salary employs to hourly labor and neglecting the finical differences. Doctors sometimes work less than 40 hours for example. Not to mention benefits packages! 2) Most Americans can't save 6K a year for retirement at a 74k salary! ... If you want to compare salaries just look at monthly income! 3) A doctor can pay all their debt in 5 years if they live like someone who makes $74k lol
music uploads for real (5 months ago)
Yeah but you can make your own business and pharmacy and develop from there
music uploads for real (4 months ago)
Chip yeah I guess but a doctor is a great job
Chip (4 months ago)
You sure can. You don't need to be a doctor to open a business and start a pharmacy the same way someone doesn't have to be an attorney to open a law office.
John Stone (5 months ago)
Doctors are not rich, RICH is owning Billionaire dollar corporations and being a Prince of a country in the middle east. An average doctors salary is fucking pocket change that is spent on strippers and cheap ass shit from Billionaires! Gimme a fucking break doctors rich smh!
Charlie Makopoulos (5 months ago)
Ups drivers have more stress than doctors..... the pay should be even more.... be nice to ups drivers!!
Douglas D'Angelo (6 months ago)
This is not true. In 90 percent of cases medical students end up working for a not for profit or a government organization. This qualifies them for "income driven repayment " and student loan forgiveness. Ultimately physicians debt is paid off by the American tax payer and is the fuel for the biggest scam that is driving up the debt in America. 7 of the 10 most profitable hospitals in the US are not for profit hospitals. They bill "charitable care" at more than 18 times their procedural rates for Medicare, skewing their books, and ultimately walking away Scott free from paying income tax. Medical schools can make tuition a fortune because they know they can capitalize on the student loan forgiveness. Doctors demand huge salaries using their "debt" as leverage saying they need to pay it off when they usually end up just paying off part of the interest of their loan. It's all a huge money making scam and everyone from the hospitals, physicians, schools, and banks are in it.
Douglas D'Angelo (6 months ago)
@Med School Insiders I have. Every med student has the option of going to work for a not for profit or a government agency and most do. 7 of the 10 most profitable hospitals are not for profit and skew their books by billing charitable care at 18 times it's original value. The entire system is a scam. Doctors go to 10 years of med school to literally practice their "specialty" which only equates to a small amount of that training time. They then simply refer every patient to another specialist. This financial scam is funded by astronomical costs paid for by patients whose health is held hostage and then is subsidized by the American tax payer whether or not they benefit from the system. The med industry is easily the most corrupt industry in the US and the greed of doctors, hospitals, medCEOs, and colleges will be solely responsible for the downfall of the us. Every country seems to be able to get their costs down many times lower than what we do. We don't even reap benefits from the high price we pay for care as we are not even ranked in the top 10 of healthcare systems
Khan1 Khan1 (6 months ago)
If doctors are not Rich, then it's their mistake. Why did the doctors not analysed the situation correctly to earn/get money. Doctors should not expect people to recognize their intelligence and get Rich as a result. They should control the situation that's around there, and make plans to get everything for themselves, sometimes with collaboration of others and sometimes not collaborating with them. Exploiting every kind of human emotions (violence,non violence, laughter, happiness, weeping)etc etc.
ButteryAssNigga (6 months ago)
Work for fedex. Get paid 55k a year and you dont have to wait years to become a driver like UPS drivers. Hire on the spot. Or just get a class A/B
ButteryAssNigga (5 months ago)
The Truth Express is way better. Less work more pay and full benefits retirement etc.. ground doesnt have any of the benefits but its a lot easier to start a job fulltime. Express most the time you start off PT. It depends on your situation if you wanna work a job for 30 years then definitely express.. if you wanna invest money id say do ground for like a year or 2. Live with your parents if youre fresh outta high school and you can save up a cool 65k easy and invest it. Thats what i did
The Truth (5 months ago)
@ButteryAssNigga do you like express better?
ButteryAssNigga (5 months ago)
The Truth ground is like 40k so yea way less. All in all none of the class c driver jobs at fedex require years of waiting. Ive worked as a driver both express and ground
The Truth (5 months ago)
Only at FedEx Express or FedEx Freight do you get 55k+. FedEx Ground pays significantly less.
Terry Kane (7 months ago)
I am a UPS driver in Pennsylvania. I make a six figure salary and pay nothing for great health care.
Hafeez Santos-Qureshi (7 months ago)
Dude its not about Money Its about what You Do
Brent Boese (7 months ago)
I want to be a ups driver
Dominique Ford (7 months ago)
doctors medical malpractice perjury unconstitutional etc pussy committing muthafuckas careers a joke especially when that let alone toxic hazardous chemicals etc cause side effects including death how many muthafuckas folks go to em especially gotta go themselves in the future
KryptoManiac (7 months ago)
How much does it cost for an IMG for doing residency in USA after usmle ofcourse??
Brett Winstead (7 months ago)
I do okay working for IPS but my wife Carrie gives me such a hard time about my diet. I just cannot resist a burger and Deacon and I hang out at the diner quite often so I eat a lot of bad stuff. Carrie's dad who lives with us drives me insane! --Doug Heffernan
Luis Matos (7 months ago)
You know you could just join the army reserves and the army will pay for you to become a doctor right? And when you retire after 20 years as a military doctor, you’ll receive a pension and still be able to practice medicine as a civilian
David Gillespie (7 months ago)
It’s much worse for Vet Students. Could you do a comparison for them.
ChesterWolf The Griffin (8 months ago)
Only 75 k a year dude that's a lot of money the average American will never get a salary paying that.
Vikram karmarkar (8 months ago)
um yeah...and then you add in the variable for your parents, x, and the equation breaks
Matthew Vachon (8 months ago)
ONLY $75,000 per year... that's a lot dude.
rakim dismuke (8 months ago)
Well many doctors get a loan repayment plan many hospitals pay doctors anywhere from 100-200k in loan repayment. But the only downside is that you start getting paid the big bucks in your 30s
Charles Worrell (8 months ago)
Eh the main difference for me is that if you’re dropped off in a random area who’d you rather have a doctor or a ups driver
harrison wintergreen (9 months ago)
See books by finance prof Thomas Stanley (Millionaire Next Door or Stop Acting Rich). He shows that MDs are some of the highest earners in the US but tend to have very low levels of wealth. Lots of med school debt, lots of status spending on luxury cars, vacation homes, private schools for the kids, etc ... MDs usually save and invest much less than other professions. IRS data shows teachers are more likely to be net-worth millionaires than MDs are.
Brennan Bowyer (9 months ago)
They still make plenty of money. I don’t look at it as total money earned, rather I see school as working up to the point when your career starts. That is when you get to live like a doctor. Once you’re in the swing of things, you make enough to do whatever you want.
jason618 (9 months ago)
Doctors make more from drug companies as well
fordfiveohh (9 months ago)
Being a programmer with a 2 year degree then making 6 figures after 5 years is much better I bet....
fordfiveohh (9 months ago)
What !!! Ups makes $75,000?
Silvia Al (9 months ago)
Just don't study in the U.S. Learn German and study medicine in Germany, then go back to the U.S. and work there. It is waaaaay less expensive to go to a university here. I am almost finished with med school and my loan is maybe around 10 000€.... which is nothing compared to 185 000$. You only have to pay around 250-350€ per semester to the university.
Arnesha Peace (9 months ago)
I'm sure loans are a bitch
cardea jackson (9 months ago)
No wonder all these doctors is hecka old..
cardea jackson (9 months ago)
That's why the call it the Golden years right... enjoy yo golden ones
Hendry Ulaen (9 months ago)
"don't go to medical school for money", but for the passion you have...
Son Goku *the real one* (9 months ago)
Well, My dad will cover all that. He has the money for it.
Son Goku *the real one* (9 months ago)
But nerou sergons make 1 mil per year... Its a fact..
Jason Young (9 months ago)
Aarya Prashant neurosurgeons spend 16 years in training after high school
KMW (9 months ago)
Four years of college is a ridiculous waste of time
ART unchained (9 months ago)
Instead go into IT - you'll learn 15 years until you can make sense of it and can never stop learning after that time cause of the rapid development of technology. You'll be happy to earn as much as an american UPS driver, if you're lucky.
Big Chungus (9 months ago)
It's sad that people want to be doctors just because of money, you should be a doctor if you WANT TO, not if some asian parent curses at you in fucking chinese that if you're not a doctor you're moving out of the house.
Ashley Akari (9 months ago)
My fiance worked as UPS driver, it is truth that driver got paid 35 an hr after 4 years with the company, they are always demand to work more than 40 hr a week. If they work Saturday they made $50 an hr on Saturday for 4 hour of work. In a peak season like Christmas, they bring home easily $2,000 a week. After 4 years most of the driver made 80k a year and good amount of them made 100k. Well why UPS pay that much? Because not may guy can handle UPS driver job, legally you are not lifting more than 50 lbs a box but good amount of them are 100 lbs boxes ..if you do business route you will have to handle 100 lbs packages 100-250 of them in a day.Now you wonder why UPS driver chucking the packages? Also, imagine people ordering wayfair furniture to the apartment with no lift..yes, they do that all the time. UPS truck doesn't have heater or AC so in winter you will be always cold, they did not always close the truck door because they are always in and out of the truck. In summer, at the back of the truck will be like 120 degree...that is every time you went back to truck to pick a package before delivery. It is also common that driver usually black out at the back of the truck in summer because of dehydration.This job is physically too demanding and you will need to work a lot of years in whorehouse to be a driver unless you are veteran. UPS work like military so if you are veteran then you can skip working inside the warehouse. I want my fiance to work in other profession but the pay is really good to start another career. I hate to see him in pain every time he's back home. There's a reason why they pay that much.
Wilson Mar (9 months ago)
Doctor still better
Loveduhmusic (9 months ago)
I appreciate both Doctors and all mail delivery workers. This world wouldn't function without both.
mitch (9 months ago)
In the UK the average doctor makes like 60K a year.
TheSingularity (9 months ago)
This should be retitled: being a resident is not that lucrative.
Írisz Ipolyvölgyi (10 months ago)
I'm always amazed how much debt American students have. In Central Europe the majority of the students don't go to uni unless they can pay it without getting a loan. BUT e.g. in Hungary we have free education for (I think) 12 semesters in higher educaton, if you get enough points on your finnal exams in high school.
spaghetti dude (10 months ago)
never wanted that much money anyway... neurosurgery, here I come!
Mcwrenn8 (10 months ago)
New contract will pay us UPS drivers up to $40 an hour over the next 5 years.. then overtime will be a dollar a minute.. I’m 27 and didn’t attend college and have no plans to attend college..
Modern (10 months ago)
I call BS on UPS drivers making 70k/year...
Nights in Orebro (6 months ago)
without ever working on a Saturday which is optional and obviously overtime.
Nights in Orebro (6 months ago)
my friend made just over 100k
mike jackson (10 months ago)
Who retires at 65? I'm eligible when I turn 55.
John Mendoza (10 months ago)
Money is not everything either is wearing yourself out either.😲😥😣😐Just go to school and live life to the fullest.
Bryan Saune (10 months ago)
Thank you.
INTJ & ESFP (10 months ago)
This analysis is absolutely bullshit first off, as a doctor, you have the potential to choose a lucrative area of practice where working time is considerably better. Some area of practice have much better returns in terms of investment in time. For example dentistry, dermatology. You would be looking at much higher earning and lower working time than average. Secondly, as a doctor, you have the potential to start your own business, this allow you to easily break free from the average earning if you are a great businessman. Thirdly, your social class is different. Most of your friends are doctors or any other high earning professionals. This means that you'll be in a great environment where people are generally smart and respectful. Here is for UPS driver: 1. Your income is pretty much fixed 2. There is no potential to start your own business, which means that you're stuck to that salary. 3. you will float around in lower social class 4. Entire life driving trucks The problem with this analysis is that it compares two different careers with two different earning opportunities. For UPS drivers, their income is fixed, so taking their average salary for comparison is OK. However, taking the average salary of doctors, is not suitable for comparison, simply because the category of doctors and income is extremely different and have they have the opportunity to not be completely glued to being an employee. The overall point is that being a doctor is much better than UPS driver and the investment is worth it, if you're a ambitious doctor that is looking to become rich, then you have a much higher earning potential. Also, one last point. Doctors genearlly marry other doctors or other high income professions, and that salary is combined. UPS drivers is likely to marry someone that have similar income to him. This can make a huge difference. Take this factor into consideration and you'll realize that becoming a UPS driver is not a short cut, and the effort it take to become a doctor is completely worth it.
MARCONI (10 months ago)
I see way more doctors driving Ferrari’s than UPS drivers
Brianna&Mia Gymnasts (10 months ago)
Bu- but...I want de money ;’(
sundiii99OWS (10 months ago)
Every genius should have been doctors and scientists, because ALL people should start learning science and medicine at age 4-6. Our current school system makes smart people look stupid so we should eliminate it 100%. And learning should be free! No debt ever!When I was a teenager I realized that we're only forced to go to school so teachers/etc could have JOBS, because otherwise they'd all be starving! Schools force students to do ridiculous assignments just to keep them "out of trouble" because there's nothing else to do! It's insane to force people (even the non-geniuses) to get a high school diploma, then college degree, and only THEN they can start learning to be doctors! All people NEED to learn as much as possible about diseases because it's the most important thing of all! Teach people to be healthy, teach parents to know what their child's symptoms of sickness might be. They say our brains get wired at young ages to do certain things, especially as babies learn, so imagine how much smarter people would be, worldwide, if there was no poverty and "schools" or actually COMPUTER LEARNING, lifelong if they're all taught science and medicine from.....birth! Or you know, age 2-5& up. AND learning should take up less time every day than they're now forced to SIT and learn unimportant things for 6+ hours plus horrible homework! They could become doctors and scientists by computer learning for only, maybe 4 hours a day (parents now need to start learning it with their kids by supervising it themselves)! AND THEN they should have the rest of the day, for fun exercise, learning many things like DANCING! Parents would need to be set free from WORKING too much so they can supervise, and learn dancing too, right along with their parents! The reason none of this can happen today is the capitalist WAGE SYSTEM! I just talked to a lady who works in insurance who said she works all day and then at night until midnight because she doesn't have enough time to get all the work done! Now that's really slavery! She should be able to work only FOUR hours a day. But ultimately we need to eliminate ALL insurance and banks and even MONEY with computers! We should redistribute wealth equally worldwide ASAP to save our lives, and to save the EARTH immediately! America did everything wrong building cars and houses and roads to "create wage jobs"! Cars and houses etc are destroying the earth! Cars kill 50,000 people every year so obviously that was wrong. We should have said "let's eliminate most work by building safe Tower cities connected to maglev Trains"! Millions of people wouldn't have died! (In car crashes, cancers, floods, wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions etc! Scientists &engineers etc are starting to work on building cities, habitations, on Mars because someday the Earth will cease to exist! And you can't go outside on Mars, so start getting used to not going outside much here on Earth! Capitalists are definitely going to destroy the Earth if we don't change ASAP! Both here, and on Mars, people need to build Tower cities connected to maglev Trains worldwide! Every tower should have all things. Capitalism will destroy the earth (profits before people) if we don't start protesting against it WORLDWIDE soon! There are so many ways to grow all food in Tower cities! Search the Internet! Capitalism: let's cut down ALL trees to "create jobs" building houses!?? Vehicles are deadly, not freedom like in advertisements! Capitalism is all myths and fables and lies! We need to redistribute money equally worldwide because it's so insane not to!!!!!! Number of billionaires: 2,208! Wealthiest: Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon, US$112 Billion! It takes 999,999,999 million to make just ONE BILLION, and he alone has 112 billion! How insane is that???!!! 36 million people die of starvation every YEAR! So obviously capitalism, paying some people a tiny wage, so the #1 guy gets to SAVE $112 billion is wrong! Redistribute it equally worldwide, so the number of signs, miracles and wonders can be multiplied worldwide! So every child, and widow, and orphan has a great life, so they can ALL contribute ideas to make life easier for all people, and so we can start getting fresh nutritious food, and clean water and AIR, to all humans, and to all wildlife. No more small family farms which take away habitat for wildlife! Jeremiah 32:17 there is nothing too hard for our God in heaven (& on earth) to do! The sin/iniquity throughout the bible is the wage system, because it started in Egypt, in Exodus it is described, and THAT is mentioned again and again throughout the bible! So that's the theme! 2 Corinthians 8:12-15 But by an equality.....that there be EQUALITY...! Equality can only mean WEALTH, MONEY, because that's what gives us LIFE, we all need money! The love of money is unequal wealth. We were forced over centuries to need money (WCRTW of 252?) so we're not FREE until we eliminate money, which is mostly numbers in computers! Today is the most important time in the history of mankind, because we can quickly end world poverty. And it's insane to ever think "but what if no one will work?" which is saying "but we NEED SLAVERY!" NO WE DON'T NEED SLAVERY! We need to DESTROY WAGE SLAVERY immediately! And we need to build T&T to save the EARTH!!
sundiii99OWS (10 months ago)
4 years for Bachelor degree, 4 years medical school, AND 3-7 years residency?!!!! Before they can start making money!!! Ha! That's insane, you insane capitalists!!! Debt of $185,000!! Then WORK 80 hours a week!!!? Then they might work 60 hours a week?!!! That's all insane! Why would anyone ever want to be a doctor??? No one should until we destroy capitalism!! I don't care if there are no doctors, because no one should get healthcare until every human and animal gets perfect healthcare!! That's the way it should be! Because everyone should be a doctor and scientist by destroying this current system 100%!!!
Philipp (10 months ago)
Experienced neurosurgeons make 3m plus
Nod Melon (10 months ago)
Interesting side note. UPS pays for a portion of your tuition fees if you work for them while attending school. So you can theoretically become a doctor while working for UPS.
Sayszar Tempest (10 months ago)
So.... Become a UPS driving Physician?
Vendetta Trickz (3 months ago)
Yes I know a part time ups worker who also is a physician on the side he makes a lot of money.
Charlie Makopoulos (5 months ago)
Sayszar Tempest ups= united practicing surgeons. ;))
Tray_Coolen (10 months ago)
Background music? In the beginning?
john cena (10 months ago)
I understand that you’re living in the US and most of this info is applicable if you’re living there or if you are living in a country where you have to pay a lot for medical education, but I’m living in Saudi and I have free education. This gives me a financial head start and doesn’t really hinder my finances. I graduate after 3 years and take my residency afterwards, all of which with no debt whatsoever. Point of this is that this video is centred around countries who’s system is similar to that of the US
Yellow W (10 months ago)
I think if you live very frugally during and especially after residency and focus on paying that student dept off ASAP then doctors (and especially surgeons) would surpass UPS drivers a lot quicker, no? You'd have to be crazy to pay that debt off slowly.
Chris Sumrall (10 months ago)
wow this is inaccurate
Gurdeep Singh (11 months ago)
he dropouts out of residency fyi
Yvonne Jacko (11 months ago)
UPS drivers don't make$45 an hour... what planet are you on??WTF?????You're in dreamland man!!
Nod Melon (10 months ago)
He said overtime rate is $45 an hour. That's $30 an hour for 8 hours then time and a half overtime rate of $45 an hour for remaining hours up to twelve in a day. That's $420 before tax for the day if you work 8am-8pm..and believe me, they do.
Michelle Marie (11 months ago)
And also what happens when the ups driver ends up becoming disabled?? Then what will he be shit outta luck and out of a jib however if a doctor becomes disabled he can work as a professor or hospital administrator and its not back breaking work
Nod Melon (10 months ago)
UPS drivers are unionized and part of a group plan health insurance program. If one had a tragic event and could no longer work they would begin to receive roughly 75%-100% of their previous salary depending how it happened. What happens if the doctor/professor/administrator hits his head? He's not doing any of those jobs you mentioned.
DC DC (11 months ago)
here it goes.... im a high school drop out. I earn a 100k a year. there, done... thank you UPS
Mr4Step4 (11 months ago)
I dont get why it takes 10 years for doctor to get rid of his college debt if the average salary is $217,000? You can live first two years for $100,000 and put another $100,000 to pay your debt and you will get rid of it in 2-3 years
Rejish Ranjit (7 months ago)
taxes fr that high income ;)
R Cruz (11 months ago)
Uos lost a package of mine with a tracking number
Andres (11 months ago)
I'm 20 years old living in California, I'm a union Ironworker I was bumped up to 4th year journeymen wage by my General Formen. I'm making 49 an hour with sub meaning I get 100 dollars extra each day for travel expenses and for congestion. I was told to go to college or else I wouldn't make anything of my self. Funny thing is im in the process moving into my new home. Home owner at 20 no kids beautiful girlfriend I'm living good. I'm so glad I didn't go to school. School isn't the only option got success there's plenty of work out in the real world you just gotta get in where you fit in 💪
S D (11 months ago)
What about the very real possibility that ups driver jobs will be automated in the near future?
Matthew Williams (11 months ago)
In the short run, UPS drivers are doing better, that’s true. But in the long run, doctors earn and will have a better life. I think choosing your specialty should be based on whether you will enjoy the job and also on your future. The road for medicine is long, but a primary care phsyician during residency makes about 50k-60k, which is just below the UPS driver. After residency is done, that primary care doctor is making 180k+... don’t forget salary increases, overtime pay, bonuses, and many doctors employed under hospitals get free medical/dental/vision packages with retirement plans... that is about an extra 50k-70k on top of the salary. And doctors don’t retire at a certain age in their 60s, I know doctors working in their 70s. When people say doctors aren’t making as much, it makes me smile because almost all doctored are pulling in 200k about 5 years after residency...
God Usopp (11 months ago)
you know how long it takes to even get a shot at becoming a ups driver once you become it your not that far from retirement and plus the strain on the back , knees and mind
Mike G. (11 months ago)
Drivers make +$ than that
YOMO (11 months ago)
This is BS, a lot of doctors become medical directors and I know personally a MD who makes 500k/yr and only shows up about 8 times out the year, and that’s not including his salary from the ER/ED where he works only 24-36 hours a week per 12 hour shifts. Yeah do the math on that....oh yeah I forgot to mention he makes 350/hr oh I think it’s 450/hr....No exaggeration!! Do your research then come back and comment.. This video is highly inaccurate, also there’s a shortage of physicians so you can basically demand what you want.
Ben Chesterman (11 months ago)
In Australia a Senior Doctor cant afford a new supercar , more like a Bmw m4cs for $200,000 in reality after income tax 48%
D Money (11 months ago)
Doctors don't make money anymore, it's true. Doctors are going to jail for writing scrips and selling on the street. They can thank insurance companies for that, & all the people faking injuries. Want to make real money? Practice family court. We can't keep it in our pants & we are lazy. Family court loves the F up. America produces the best F up. The 1% needs the 99% so they can exploit them.
First Name Last Name (11 months ago)
I don’t think you included the pay that doctors receive during residency?
Michigan USA/Singapore S.E.Asia (11 months ago)
It’s way off. In some states doctors get loans paid off. Many get large scholarships too. USA doctors also get kick back from medical companies etc
Michigan USA/Singapore S.E.Asia (11 months ago)
Also they get free medical care and treatments from hospitals too
BritxBrat2Fashion (11 months ago)
The link for the excel sheet doesn't work (broken link).. but overall great video
Biggutter333 (11 months ago)
Im a gutter guy. Make more than UPS driver, with winters mostly off. Im home now after a six hour work day. I'll make over $4000.00 this week. No college. But the doctors I hang gutters for in Hinsdale IL make about $400k/yr and up. Thats nice money, but the cost of living in the fancy neighborhood isnt cheap. I think some are living paycheck to paycheck.
May'ib19 (11 months ago)
That's why you have yo become a massage therapist. Most successful massage therapist i met work 26-32 hrs per week and make 160K. (annually)
Michael Chung (11 months ago)
Uhhh doctors won’t be replaced by robots anytime soon, UPS drivers will be. I know because I work in the AI field
Nicol Bolas (11 months ago)
A moment of silence for the PhD doctors.... 4-6 years of grad school, 6 years of post-docs with 60-hour work weeks, highly-competitive job market afterwards making $75K CDN to start... and have to apply for grants every 3-5 years to keep that job. That's some BS right there.
joe rami (11 months ago)
A latino landscaping contractor 3 trucks makes 400 gross anually , -200 for payroll -100 operating costs , net 100 yearly and living the life , his guys working him at home answering phone 😆
honeybun33 (11 months ago)
MOST if not all doctors make good money but spend they're whole lives in GREAT student loan debt so it balances out. So no, doctors aren't rich. NBA players make millions just to dribble a ball up and down a court. Drug dealers make more than doctors.
honeybun33 (11 months ago)
UPS DRivers make 33/hr plus FULL benefits, 401K, paid vacations but they only pay helpers 8 dollars 50 cent a damn hr while the driver sits his lazy a$$ on the truck and get full pay. I hated my driver
Smoky RS98 (11 months ago)
Kinda funny 😄!!
Carlinho Martienes (11 months ago)
Just pause the video at 0:50
Artem Gordon (11 months ago)
Now what if you are a UPS driver until your mid 30's and then use that saved money to open up a lucrative business, eh?
S. D. H. (11 months ago)
Most doctors are arrogant douchebags who don't even know half as much as they think they do. They are amusing to observe.