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Doctors vs. UPS Drivers: Who Makes More Money? The answer may surprise you. Don't discount that to become a doctor you must go to 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 3-7 years of residency. That translates to a great deal of opportunity cost, lost income earning potential, and student debt. Link to excel sheet finances: http://medschoolinsiders.com/pre-med/are-doctors-rich-vs-ups-drivers/ Become an Insider! Visit https://patreon.com/medschoolinsiders Connect with me WEBSITE: https://medschoolinsiders.com TWITTER: https://twitter.com/MedInsiders FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/medschoolinsiders INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/medschoolinsiders Music: http://soundcloud.com/lakeyinspired Sources: MedScape Physician Compensation Report 2017: http://www.medscape.com/slideshow/compensation-2017-overview-6008547#2 UPS Average Salary: http://www.truckdriverssalary.com/ups-driver-salary/ Physician vs UPS Driver Comparison: http://www.er-doctor.com/doctor_income.html Disclaimer: Content of Med School Insiders is my opinion and does not constitute medical advice. The content and associated links provide general information for general educational purposes only.
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Chris Sumrall (2 days ago)
wow this is inaccurate
Gurdeep Singh (3 days ago)
he dropouts out of residency fyi
Yvonne Jacko (7 days ago)
UPS drivers don't make$45 an hour... what planet are you on??WTF?????You're in dreamland man!!
OfficialMichellemarie 26 (8 days ago)
And also what happens when the ups driver ends up becoming disabled?? Then what will he be shit outta luck and out of a jib however if a doctor becomes disabled he can work as a professor or hospital administrator and its not back breaking work
Sir Kaos (10 days ago)
here it goes.... im a high school drop out. I earn a 100k a year. there, done... thank you UPS
Mr4Step4 (10 days ago)
I dont get why it takes 10 years for doctor to get rid of his college debt if the average salary is $217,000? You can live first two years for $100,000 and put another $100,000 to pay your debt and you will get rid of it in 2-3 years
R Cruz (10 days ago)
Uos lost a package of mine with a tracking number
Andres (14 days ago)
I'm 20 years old living in California, I'm a union Ironworker I was bumped up to 4th year journeymen wage by my General Formen. I'm making 49 an hour with sub meaning I get 100 dollars extra each day for travel expenses and for congestion. I was told to go to college or else I wouldn't make anything of my self. Funny thing is im in the process moving into my new home. Home owner at 20 no kids beautiful girlfriend I'm living good. I'm so glad I didn't go to school. School isn't the only option got success there's plenty of work out in the real world you just gotta get in where you fit in 💪
Erick Hernandez (14 days ago)
What about the very real possibility that ups driver jobs will be automated in the near future?
Matthew Williams (15 days ago)
In the short run, UPS drivers are doing better, that’s true. But in the long run, doctors earn and will have a better life. I think choosing your specialty should be based on whether you will enjoy the job and also on your future. The road for medicine is long, but a primary care phsyician during residency makes about 50k-60k, which is just below the UPS driver. After residency is done, that primary care doctor is making 180k+... don’t forget salary increases, overtime pay, bonuses, and many doctors employed under hospitals get free medical/dental/vision packages with retirement plans... that is about an extra 50k-70k on top of the salary. And doctors don’t retire at a certain age in their 60s, I know doctors working in their 70s. When people say doctors aren’t making as much, it makes me smile because almost all doctored are pulling in 200k about 5 years after residency...
God Usopp (16 days ago)
you know how long it takes to even get a shot at becoming a ups driver once you become it your not that far from retirement and plus the strain on the back , knees and mind
Mike G. (17 days ago)
Drivers make +$ than that
YOMO (20 days ago)
This is BS, a lot of doctors become medical directors and I know personally a MD who makes 500k/yr and only shows up about 8 times out the year, and that’s not including his salary from the ER/ED where he works only 24-36 hours a week per 12 hour shifts. Yeah do the math on that....oh yeah I forgot to mention he makes 350/hr oh I think it’s 450/hr....No exaggeration!! Do your research then come back and comment.. This video is highly inaccurate, also there’s a shortage of physicians so you can basically demand what you want.
Ben Chesterman (23 days ago)
In Australia a Senior Doctor cant afford a new supercar , more like a Bmw m4cs for $200,000 in reality after income tax 48%
David S. (23 days ago)
Doctors don't make money anymore, it's true. Doctors are going to jail for writing scrips and selling on the street. They can thank insurance companies for that, & all the people faking injuries. Want to make real money? Practice family court. We can't keep it in our pants & we are lazy. Family court loves the F up. America produces the best F up. The 1% needs the 99% so they can exploit them.
First Name Last Name (24 days ago)
I don’t think you included the pay that doctors receive during residency?
Michigan USA/Singapore S.E.Asia (24 days ago)
It’s way off. In some states doctors get loans paid off. Many get large scholarships too. USA doctors also get kick back from medical companies etc
Michigan USA/Singapore S.E.Asia (24 days ago)
Also they get free medical care and treatments from hospitals too
Jonathan Wick (25 days ago)
All you Jokers got to quit your jobs. I have a 200 acres and I'm waiting for when they legalize marijuana and give me the right to Harvest my land... just kidding!🤡💯🤓😎 good luck with that! 😉🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
BritxBrat2Fashion (26 days ago)
The link for the excel sheet doesn't work (broken link).. but overall great video
rodney richardson (27 days ago)
Im a gutter guy. Make more than UPS driver, with winters mostly off. Im home now after a six hour work day. I'll make over $4000.00 this week. No college. But the doctors I hang gutters for in Hinsdale IL make about $400k/yr and up. Thats nice money, but the cost of living in the fancy neighborhood isnt cheap. I think some are living paycheck to paycheck.
May'ib19 (28 days ago)
That's why you have yo become a massage therapist. Most successful massage therapist i met work 26-32 hrs per week and make 160K. (annually)
Michael Chung (29 days ago)
Uhhh doctors won’t be replaced by robots anytime soon, UPS drivers will be. I know because I work in the AI field
Nicol Bolas (29 days ago)
A moment of silence for the PhD doctors.... 4-6 years of grad school, 6 years of post-docs with 60-hour work weeks, highly-competitive job market afterwards making $75K CDN to start... and have to apply for grants every 3-5 years to keep that job. That's some BS right there.
joe rami (29 days ago)
A latino landscaping contractor 3 trucks makes 400 gross anually , -200 for payroll -100 operating costs , net 100 yearly and living the life , his guys working him at home answering phone 😆
honeybun33 (1 month ago)
MOST if not all doctors make good money but spend they're whole lives in GREAT student loan debt so it balances out. So no, doctors aren't rich. NBA players make millions just to dribble a ball up and down a court. Drug dealers make more than doctors.
honeybun33 (24 days ago)
UPS DRivers make 33/hr plus FULL benefits, 401K, paid vacations but they only pay helpers 8 dollars 50 cent a damn hr while the driver sits his lazy a$$ on the truck and get full pay. I hated my driver
Smoky RS98 (1 month ago)
Kinda funny 😄!!
Carlinho Martienes (1 month ago)
Just pause the video at 0:50
Artem Gordon (1 month ago)
Now what if you are a UPS driver until your mid 30's and then use that saved money to open up a lucrative business, eh?
Med School Insiders (1 month ago)
Haha great idea
S. D. H. (1 month ago)
Most doctors are arrogant douchebags who don't even know half as much as they think they do. They are amusing to observe.
KremaMpesamel (1 month ago)
Its almost impossible to work 80 hours as a UPC driver..
Robert Perez (1 month ago)
Life is about making an impact not making an income.
Stephen Imsong (1 month ago)
It’s all relative, the more you make the more expensive your life style gets
Steven Lee (1 month ago)
Doctors make this much money due to Insurance and Pharmaceutical companies. In other countries, doctors are better trained, more humane, and not as money hungry as American doctors and make almost like a teacher or lawyer. Doctors make this much money because doctors and hospitals are motivated into taking as much money from insurance companies and pharamaceutical reap the benefit from sick and dying. For this reason, people die of cancer in the U.S, but not elsewhere in the world.
Dakota Wall (1 month ago)
I don't think you should sent the amount set aside for investments equally... A percentage of income would be just as easy, and much more accurracy (I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes though)
Over Analyze (1 month ago)
i'm bout to apply to UPS, that's more than 2x my current
zoemayne (1 month ago)
UPS driver jobs will not exist once self driving cars and delivery robots/drones take off. The technology exists already it will just take time for states to pass laws and for the sector to grow.
Stanley Harriman (1 month ago)
Na. I dont care what type of doctor you are, your doing good. Even with all the student debt. Live off of rice and beans, pay off your student loans in two years, dont buy stupid shit. Youll be way ahead. But, if you wait and make payments on your debt for over a decade, spend money on shit you cant afford (meaning financing a new car or buying an expensive house) then yeah, youll be behind. A doctor making over 200k a year with about the same in debt, you can pay that shit in two years. If you cant live off of 100k a year while you pay off any and all debt, then you are a moron.
alan plumbridge (1 month ago)
Pay for your first two years of med school, then sign up with the armed forces who will pick up the bill for your education from then on, plus pay you an officer’s salary, in exchange for five years service after you have reached your qualification goals. This means you can live like a king through all but the first two years and pay off your debts before you even finish med school. Like this, you will overtake the UPS driver within the blink of an eye. This is the army’s offer to medical students in the UK - I’m guessing similar deals are available from the US forces.
Dan Pirro (1 month ago)
Lol. Such bad math.
Victor Lin (1 month ago)
You get paid accordingly. Enough said
kysike666 (1 month ago)
Life fucking sux!
Sean Noble (1 month ago)
Medical care in the US has always been about profits over anything else, it's a business so that's to-be expected but it's a huge issue for those that get sick. It's much more profitable to treat a sick person than it is to heal them. Very, very unfortunate
Ben Chesterman (23 days ago)
Democrats push up business costs , why your fees go up
DrK (1 month ago)
Could you have possibly been more vague? Are these projections with the doctors making the minimum payment every month and paying hundreds of thousands in interest? What did you even use for the interest rate? Let's say you graduate with $185k in debt and finished residency in rad onc and make $350k/yr. That's close to $20k net income after taxes. If you lived like an average person and only spent $2k/mo you could literally have that $180k paid off in a year flat. Say you want to live like you make $100k/yr, now it takes 2 years to pay off the loans including the interest. So this hypothetical doctor is now with 0 debt and a $350k/yr income at 33 years old. Yeah he's doing way worse than a 33 year old UPS driver.
GTmaniac (1 month ago)
Drivers are ridiculously overpaid
David Perry (1 month ago)
So glad I am aspiring mechanical engineer and inventor. A professional work station, cad software, CFD software, acquiring a professional engineering license, and bachelors in mechanical engineering or engineering technology is cheaper than med school and residency. Having a professional engineering license gives you the power to copyright your technical draws so nobody is legally allowed to steal your design blueprints.
Shayne McGowan (1 month ago)
This shit is funny. Specialty physician salaries are way above the 300k range and you are out of you’re mind if you think any ups driver is going to consistently be granted 40 hours of OT. Also, most people don’t know what they want to do as a career straight out of high school (seams that most physicians do tho). With that being said you’re leaving out the fact that most uneducated and inexperienced high school grads are not going to make 35$ an hour right out of the gate(with some few exceptions). They will jump from minimum wage job to minimum wage job until they find something that sticks and start to work their way up the occupational food chain. This is a cute numbers game but no where near close to actuality. One of my mentors is an anesthesiologist and makes 412,000$ a year and is 33 years old. He has a different Porsche for every season and a lake house.....not such a bad life. It may not be wise to become a physician solely the money but the truth is the field of medicine is lucrative and you won’t be disappointed with the salary. In medical school one of the emergency medicine doctors associated with my program told us the following; “medical school is simply a means to and end, once you get through all the hoops, you will have a career where you get to save lives and make more money than you know what to do with”
Bruce Courtney (1 month ago)
I wouldn’t wanna be an MD but I could see myself being either a PT or a Chiropractor.
Seasonings2taste (1 month ago)
A lot of doctors are poor, actually. Poor as in no savings. They’re still broke. Just broke with a Mercedes and half million home.
Ben Chesterman (23 days ago)
In Australia all a Senior Doctor can afford is new Bmw m4cs , new Porsche 911 $235,000 will be pushing there budget on $300,000aud salary
Joel Flores (1 month ago)
I worked at UPS as a truck loader for 1 month on peak season let me tell you its the worst shyt ever is cold is dirty its a sweat shop many people got sick because it is so cold the packages are so heavy you start getting bruises all over your body by picking up heavy boxes after boxes after boxes and if you finished ur truck fast and early and it is not time to go guess what they send you to another floor to help another person wether is sorting boxes or loading another belt. Schedule was horrible from 12:00 am to 9:00Am go in at night time come out at morning crazy right money was good but what good is it if your whole life will be committed to a company. Forget about spending time at home thats totally gone i suggest go to school work at a warm office protect your body your health most of all and be happy.
meka sky (1 month ago)
The fact that the purpose for being a doctor, a police officer, or any other service meant to protect and save lives is primarily money, status and power based in videos like these, is the exact reason the country and world is in the fucked up and corrupt position it’s in now.
Bridgeburner (1 month ago)
Cops beat them both.
Crazy55 Rider (1 month ago)
So what's the point of using UPS why not fedx. Hmm just stupid. And what driver gets 80 hours a week wow not a real analysis. We all know doctors make more per hour than a ups driver. And if you look at the chart for drivers you don't get top pay at 18 years old that's for sure.
LefttoDestroy (1 month ago)
You forget 2 huge things: moonlighting income ($100-$200 per hour during residency as well as after, if you choose) as well as massive signing bonuses. I paid off $175,000 in loans within 6 months after finishing residency due to these two things. My signing bonus to a family practice clinic was $100,000. I live less than 30 minutes from a major city, right on the interstate, so you don’t even need to move to the middle of nowhere in order to get these types of bonuses. I now make $400,000 per year within 2 years of finishing residency, have 2 cars that are paid for, and live in a $700,000 house. This is not meant to be bragging, but merely to point out that it’s usually not going to be the way this video claims. Bottom line, don’t believe everything you hear on a YouTube video.
Trent Payne (1 month ago)
This is such bullshit. Every doctor I know is rich as fuck and they came from upper middle class already. A ups salary might get you an apartment where I live but it definitely ain’t buying you a house .
Polaris sportsman (1 month ago)
I have more respect for ups drivers than millionaire doctor's
Julian Crooks (1 month ago)
If you add mal practice insurance the doctor catches up at age 72
Christopher Hernandez (1 month ago)
Can you do one of these comparing Nurse Practitioner and Physicians Assistant. With nurses being able to work part time going to graduate school if they want
THiNk aBoUt it. (1 month ago)
This video failed to mention in 20 years or less our doctors will be robots with 100% success rate as well as flying drones and self driving trucks will replace all commercial drivers. Stop throwing away money on a failed dream. You'll still be in debt by the time your job is obsolete. Just in time to go back to school and compound you student loan debt.
uy97 (1 month ago)
Need to know the instrumental at the very beginning of video
flafla fluehie (1 month ago)
It's pretty simple I live in a $250,000 home I've been driving for UPS for 12 years. The doctors I delivered to easily 700,000 to a million-dollar homes what's the debate? I don't care about your college debt. Your 4 years of college was my 4 years working part time to be full-time making absolutely nothing. Doctor salary after 5-10 years make that back 2 fold. Doctor save lives but would a doctor Save a Life for $80,000 a year? No it's all about the coin and the power. I deliver medication every single day to those very hospitals and people's homes that they can't live without. And doctors take more Kickback and promotions and bonuses than any profession on Earth
f.u ho (1 month ago)
Hell doctors and Physicians need to go work at UPS when they're going to school don't UPS pay for school
Steve (1 month ago)
Divers has minimum age of 21, and takes 4 years to make the max salary. And it takes years and years of waiting to have a chance of being promoted to driving, if ever. In the mean time, you're destroying your body moving heavy packages around. Lower back injuries are very prevalent because of the fast pace and heavy lifting. If you have the talent, personality, and resources to become a doctor, be a doctor instead of UPS driver. Plus as the name implies, you will be stuck with UPS forever. A physician can move on to another employer and keep the same career, but the UPS driver cannot. The physician can move to another country and keep the same career, the UPS driver cannot.
Michael Lu (2 months ago)
As this video was made im sure the creator knew it was going to be a controverisal topic, after reading many comments i am just here to say i appreciate how much the creator is repsonding to these comments.
Jefe Locke (2 months ago)
You left out all the kick backs from the poison froom the phamacutical companies! Asshole!
Ramiro Gamez (2 months ago)
Actual MD pay is confusing. MDs actually do not work that many hours. It depends on the MD. The big difference between a MD an a UPS driver is that an MD can make 200$ off a phone call while a ups driver would actually have to work. Both are respectful no doubt but MDs have a wider earning potential.
A&S A (2 months ago)
This analysis especially true for family physicians unfortunately. It is worthy to be a FM in any other country but the US. Here, the stress, big exams, competition, residency, the burn out, need for constant learning (especially for FMs), the extreme ease for being sued, huge student loans, finally starting to earn after you are 30, etc is not worth it at all. We should acknowledge the importance of our primary care doctors, FMs deserve way bigger income and respect than what they get today.
Ray Mack (2 months ago)
UPS drivers are known for making a lot of money so you're comparing rich people against other rich people. How about Doctors vs taxi drivers.
Russian Bot (2 months ago)
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Dallin Caudle (2 months ago)
My father in law is a neurosurgeon and his partner signed a million a year contract to cover call. On the other hand if You open a private practice you’ll be cutting out the middle mad (the hospital) and you’ll make huge profits but your tax bracket will be outrageous medical filed definitely has money you just gotta know how to get it also a private practice allows the doctor to work extremely less hours.
Alex Murphy (2 months ago)
The doctor is gonna be making much more than the UPS driver when UPS automates their trucks. Automation is what's gonna be taking the jobs of blue collar workers, not Mexicans.
oldtwins na (2 months ago)
Just be a family doctor, no need for amazing brainpower to do that. You don't need to go to a top medical school or do a fantastic residency. Work at an HMO for 250k/year working regular day shifts. The difference between 250k/year and 125k/year is HUGE. You'll be living in a super good neighborhood, drive a nice luxury car, all while within still being within your means.
cw (2 months ago)
And then there’s software engineering, where you can make 100k+ base with just a bachelor’s straight out of school.
Med School Insiders (2 months ago)
True that! You'll like the video we're releasing next =)
William Horvat (2 months ago)
Have fun as a 50 year old UPS drivers with shot knees, back, shoulders and feet.
TheVikingsCentral (2 months ago)
You can’t become a driver until you’re 21 (which many don’t right at 21) I’m in a small hub with a lower wait list. UPS driving job isn’t as great as people think
OfficialMichellemarie 26 (2 months ago)
Depends on your undergrad, i know an engineer who was successful and he was able to go to medschool, still made bank
DK G (2 months ago)
I'm finna become freaking Doug Heffernan! Forget med school!!!
Cosmo Knopp (2 months ago)
What in the world. I'm a new USPS driver and start at $17 an hour. And I'm pretty sure it tops out at like $32 or some such. What is UPS doing that they double our pay. Do they transfer cocaine and heroine as well or something sweet jesus.
Bruno Cascardo (2 months ago)
Medics: 260k a year UPS driver : 74k a year UPS Pilot: 180k a year Fedex driver: 85k a year Fedex Pilot: 200k a year Me: only 120 dollars cause I'm not 18 .________. I just have to say that this companies pays a Lot
Bruno Cascardo (2 months ago)
Lol In my country a doctor get paid the half that they are paid in us
Bunnykaka I (2 months ago)
NYU now has free tuition for all medical student if you can get in.
Benz Yos (2 months ago)
My friend is a neurosurgeon at Luxembourg he is gettin 700k
Wynston (25 days ago)
Med School Insiders easily retire at 50 years old with half a billion in bank. No time to enjoy?
Med School Insiders (2 months ago)
Neurosurgeons are the highest compensated specialty. Least amount of time to enjoy their money though
Dalton Williams (18 days ago)
What wasn’t mentioned is when you are a UPS driver you will give a lot a of your money to a doctor, because of the way UPS beat up your body.
ralph lopez (14 days ago)
Work safe and don't push for body
Carsten The Savage (2 months ago)
My dad and uncle (dentist and doctor) both discourage people from going into the medical field. The insurance system in the US is so horrible that many companies owe doctors tons of money and never pay it.
David Tanner (2 months ago)
Or how about go to medical school to gain knowledge and skills majority of the World population could never do. Not everyone can perform an atherectomy procedure, but almost everyone can drive a truck. When money becomes worthless, what do you have that makes you valuable? If you want to make money go into business.
Carlos Ulloa (2 months ago)
Man I need to be either a UPS driver or Doctor now. Thats some good money.
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Diesel Juarez jr (2 months ago)
I know and am a route driver and I make 80,000 Plus a year with high school diploma only and some guys make 150,000 a year as route driver so there is lots of money in blue collar jobs and no debt from school
Robert Buster (2 months ago)
But do I want to drive a truck across the country for the rest of my life? Nah
Daniel Golias (2 months ago)
Going into Medicine isn't about "becoming Rich." It's about coming out the other end with a stable career in virtually any political/economic climate. It's about having peace of mind whenever you go out to eat or go on vacation. It's about not having to worry if you can afford to give your family the chance to pursue opportunities. "Rich" is an entirely subjective term. Obviously you won't be a multimillionaire, but you'll be living in the top 5% literally ANYWHERE. You won't just be Rich financially, but you'll also have the respect of being a Medical Professional. Honestly, that is worth much more than pieces of paper anyway.
Yousuf Kamal (2 months ago)
People don’t think doctors are rich and just coz you spent years memorizing doesn’t mean it should be respected or earn lot of money
JJSWEAT38671 BulkTool3 (2 months ago)
Way off. Not even close. I am a UPS driver. You forgot 10 years as a part time employee before I got the chance to become a driver. I could go on but it's a waste of my time
John McCuin (2 months ago)
Why would you not do investments as a percentage of income? That's much more realistic. Also, in this analysis, what is not mentioned is that since the doctor is only investing 5500 of his remaining pay after taxes, he has a much higher standard of living once he is done with residency.
Ant Dean (2 months ago)
This "analysis" is absolutely fu**ing retarded. However, you will make more $ during your "prime" than someone working towards a graduate/professional degree if you're in the workforce earlier... Good luck with the other 50yrs of life
Steve Sud (2 months ago)
Im a 12 year UPS Feeder driver. I work between 50 to 60 hours a week. I average between $2,200 to $3,200 a week gross. Benefits and pension fully funded by UPS. Which adds up to an additional $400 dollars a week in pension and welfare. I have 4 weeks paid vacation along with a week of optional sick days. Soon ill achieve up to 8 weeks paid vacation along with an extra week for sick days. I love working for UPS. As our slogan says, "What can Brown do for you." Brown does alot =) Oh yea and for all you Ameri-Cunts who judge me because i drive for a living you can kiss my money making ass 🖕
MrDirtybird777 (2 months ago)
Sygma drivers make $90k +
b juardo (2 months ago)
Here's what I gleaned, from talking to those who pursued med school....I was told that most U.S. MD's do not even make $100K/year. I heard it's more like in the neighborhood of $60-70K after malpractice insurance, gross. Now if you're a specialist running a successful private practice that's a different story. But if you're like most MD's I hear a lot of them don't break 6-figures and that a lot of them hate their careers. It was a very sobering perspective.
Miguel Floriano (3 months ago)
Ups drivers work like dogs :(
Aktar (3 months ago)
In my opinion the Physician still wins.. Being a UPS driver held to specific company standards is not as good as doing whatever you want anywhere in the world as a Physician. All they do is look at patients and diagnose things, they have it easy it's all mental problems which isn't hard
Hyicrotai (3 months ago)
Just be attractive and take selfies, get followers on YouTube and do ads. Bam your now over paid and super rich with no work at all. Enjoy your mansion, and the one you buy your parents too.