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FS2004 - Miracle Escape (Air France Flight 358)

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Please support this channel by following me on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/allecibay Air France Flight 358 was an Airbus A340-313E, registration F-GLZQ, on a scheduled international flight from Paris, France, to Toronto, Ontario, Canada. On August 2, 2005, just after landing at Toronto Pearson International Airport at 4:01 p.m. EDT, it crashed into nearby Etobicoke Creek, approximately 300 m (980 ft) beyond the end of the runway. All 309 passengers and crew aboard the Airbus A340 survived, with 12 people sustaining serious injuries. The accident highlighted the role played by highly trained flight attendants during an emergency. Credits go to Mayday (Air Crash Investigation, Air Emergency, Air Disasters in other places) for the video clips of the crash and aftermath! Watch the actual episode here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uy_0hhS5pw Music: Comedy Is Over Artist: Dalo Vian Listen to the entire music here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xno-_WagH34 Follow me on: https://www.facebook.com/allec.ibay https://twitter.com/joshandroma
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Michael Schroeder (4 days ago)
When you land halfway down the runway, doesn't the idea of going around and redoing the approach ever cross people's minds?
markissable (8 days ago)
I called it before the text came on the screen, the plane took too long to hit the runway! I knew they were doomed for sure, but at least they all survived!
Vincent Venturella (10 days ago)
was on a red eye coming into Lambert intnl in STL, heavy storms, came in nose down and fast ! we lived then applauded pilots crew !
Jon Davis (27 days ago)
I would never in my life sit on a plane that goes across the Atlantic Ocean
whollyman (27 days ago)
This is very disappointing, because the title promises a miracle, but the video does not follow through! Nothing about the amazingly fast and disciplined evacuation in a record 90 seconds in spite of both rear slides inoperable due to fire, the mid left slide punctured by debris and deflated, one right slide malfunctioning and some passengers forced to jump for their lives, just before the plane burst into flames. THAT'S the miracle!
Electone_Guy (1 month ago)
You don't mess around with Southern Ontario thunderstorms. The high humidity air and cool breezes off of the Great Lakes make for nasty weather.
The Obsessed Gamer (1 month ago)
this crash was one of the most incredible miracles i have ever seen, because evacuating 309 passengers in less than 90 seconds? planes where put through this test by letting all the passengers escape the plane using half the emergency exits, but you think most people would be in panic and stand still. this was a real miracle
Mike12522 (1 month ago)
Four out of 8 exits on 358 could not be used. Despite that, the 10 flight attendants on 358 evacuated 297 passengers within 90 seconds. It was solely due to the flight attendants' skills, training, bravery, and haste that all survived. Fire trucks were on the scene in an astonishing time of just under one minute.
Constitution_89 (1 month ago)
I've now found myself to be the critique of the problems as I see them for the handling of ALL involved in these aircraft accidents. And for this one: Happy there were No fatalities. As for the Captain and First Officer? They should NEVER be permitted to be in control of ANY aircraft AGAIN EVER except for one they'd be flying by themselves with Nobody else aboard. And even then they should be severely scrutinized because of the possible victims on the ground should they again crash their own aircraft. Better to just ground them FOREVER!!!
can yo give me the plane link
Alison Clement (2 months ago)
umm, so I was actually on this flight. This isnt exactly what happened. We were forced to land because we ran out of gas
john gibson (2 months ago)
You should do a video on a flight where the auto pilot actually kills everyone ...coincidentally Air France also . " Auto pilot from hell ....Air France flight 296 " Incredible story
Philippe Morisson (2 months ago)
The pilot should have been fired regarding what his mistakes have cost to AF... Unions too powerful in France
DGJ P (2 months ago)
Mars on Earth (2 months ago)
Why the heck runways are not longer. A monster flying at 400 miles an hour deserves a longer runway. Stupid designs.
Terry George (2 months ago)
love ya video 📹 📹 📹 📹 📹 📹 📹 😀😜😜😜😜😜
Terry George (2 months ago)
and everyother video 😊😊😊😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀;-) thanks so much
Daniel Maverick (2 months ago)
Do about the airfrance-airbus who was tripping from paris to Brazil and explode in the air
Sulphurous (3 months ago)
You can always go around
mohamed hosni (3 months ago)
well, the weather makes it zero room for error by the pilot , so when he did one like the delay in reverse it resulted in an accident,,, but to tell in normal cases some pilots approach fast and some delay in reverse yet they still manage to compromise
kenjryker (3 months ago)
Hell of a lot of French bashing here from uninformed Americans.
Xeoun Alvarez (3 months ago)
They should’ve done a go-around, if the did that, they wouldn’t have crashed.
Me Here (3 months ago)
There was a similar one called "Racing the Storm"
little_monster _DadoL (3 months ago)
Love it :) miracle indeed
john harris (3 months ago)
Airbust and French pilots.
Tim Sullivan (3 months ago)
I'm in Toronto and recall the event but unfortunately CANNOT remember the details which is now frustrating because this video provides no helpful description of the rescue. This omission naturally begs the question: how were there NO fatalities considering not only the break-up the fuselage during the crash itself, but the poor chances of safely evacuating ALL 309 people, 46 of whom were INJURED, from the jagged remains of the trisected fuselage, up and out of the ravine's challenging terrain during a severe storm, and ALL OF THIS successfully accomplished BEFORE the plane was finally destroyed by the FIRE? The REAL story here is: How the HECK did they manage to do THAT?
GENO (3 months ago)
Dumb pilot decisions
Suzanne Ito (3 months ago)
Why is there no commentary on your videos? I don't like reading text and listening to your music. I'll have to ignore all your videos because of this.
Simanti Chakraborty (3 months ago)
In such horrible weather it’s a pity the more experienced Captain was not at the controls...Air France seems to have had a series of pilot error related crashes
Denny Mcfastlane (3 months ago)
Can You imagine what would have happened if the Air France President's son...was not on board?
Rick Shaw (3 months ago)
I remember this very well. One of our drivers at work radioed in and said a plane just went off the runway when he was passing buy. I saw i later. You could drive past the airport on the highway and see the plane down in the gully.
grabber168 (3 months ago)
What was the first officer doing flying the plane when the Captain was sitting there!!!
MrCapi55 (3 months ago)
Too long spaces without signs. No photos of the actual airplane/model at the end of video.
Allec Joshua Ibay (3 months ago)
MrCapi55 check at 6:28. I showed the photo of the aircraft
Charlotte Schreffler (3 months ago)
That's a shame . Glad everyone lived, but some pilot error there. Sometimes the first officer wants to do something the pilot doesn't. Hope the ones hurt are ok now. may God Bless
Usha Rungta (4 months ago)
Joe Jordan (4 months ago)
I suspect these Pilots were overtired or they were drinking or on drugs
sephirotic87 (4 months ago)
Sever audio compression artifacts on your videos, You should increase bitrate of your audio capture, maybe even capture in PCM before editing.
William Volkmann (4 months ago)
another case of tec assisted pilot error, neither pilot was out of the old school way of thinking.
CL's Sales (4 months ago)
A burned out hulk of an Airbus, about the only way to make an Airbus really safe.
Quad8track (4 months ago)
Can anyone explain the logic in delaying the deployment of thrust reversers? I've been on flights when pilots do this but in dry conditions. Seems like the thrust reversers would stop the plane better - especially in wet conditions like this.
Norman Jaquemot (4 months ago)
ATOL wasn't working at Pearson's?
greg oscar (5 months ago)
Shades of Delta FL 191 almost 20 years before that, except those people were not lucky at all.
Jonathan Kafrouni (5 months ago)
Iv seen the whole series of these accidents and this is the first one that everyone survivess but the captains dont get medal
Unctious (5 months ago)
Stupid Frogs dunno how to fly.
Brock Landers (5 months ago)
The Airbus A340 is my favorite current aircraft. It looks like a modern day 707/DC-8.
Michael Kornacker (5 months ago)
Why didn't the aircraft commander tell the pilot you blew the landing , now take it around and try it again, instead of allowing him to proceed when he had to have know it was a botched landing.
Paul Villamor (5 months ago)
That's very sad. And these were trained pilots. A bad combination of foul weather and pilot error. I suppose even autopilot wasn't possible to land this plane automatic
desiguy55 (5 months ago)
should have called this "runway flyer". they were flying over half the runway.
Mike M (5 months ago)
How could the pilots not know they were so far off the mark? Half way down the runway and going to fast? With all the automatic warnings I usually hear on these big jets, airbus tells them nothing? I won't be climbing on any of these Euro jets again. The hidden joystick control in the co-pilot seat isn't very smart either. Stay away from Airbus. Fly Boeing.
M. S. L. (5 months ago)
Suspended for three months? Don't think that covers the losses.
Chris L (5 months ago)
good that pilot shouldn't be flying cause he doesn't know his fucking job.
Ihsan Mahyuddin (5 months ago)
Why sad music, even this is happy ending episode. Nope, nope, nope i'm so sorry
IVoidwarrantys (5 months ago)
Suspended as punishment or medical reasons?
Rob Hill (5 months ago)
They let someone sit in the cockpit just because he's the son of an employee of the airline?
Matthew Seven (5 months ago)
How did two pilots manage a rookie mistake?
MIke Fox (5 months ago)
the white font is hard to read
skeleguns 10,ooo,ooo (5 months ago)
Oh my god, so this plane landed in extreme weather, I rode a JetBlue flight to fort lauduradale
skeleguns 10,ooo,ooo (5 months ago)
it was TOO HIGH
The Sarge (5 months ago)
skeleguns 10,ooo,ooo and?
John T (5 months ago)
Off topic, but does anyone know the name of the piano music during the solemn ending...?
The Goahead Mpire (5 months ago)
Lucky child who gets to have a free cockpit ride
Dana McGinnis (5 months ago)
I just watch this episode on the show Air Disasters.
rvnmedic1968 (6 months ago)
Can't watch the actual episode on the link above - "This video contains content from ole (Film/TV), who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." I'm in the USA.
rvnmedic1968 (6 months ago)
"Coming in too high and too fast". Why didn't Approach Control mention this to the pilots?
Steven Juris (3 months ago)
rvnmedic1968 how is ATC going to know? They don’t have that kind of data and are responsible for more then 1 airplane.
WildGurgs36 (6 months ago)
2:12-2:20 since when did the PIC RECEIVE orders? Also, nice touch showing the gear lever being lowered in the sim! Add-on: 3:52 okay seriously why is the FO and not the PIC making that decision?
M.J. Leger (6 months ago)
Why didn't he go around? Interesting, why so late on the reverse thrusts? He used up all the runway since he landed half-way down it, the runway could have been slick but that wasn't the problem, bad approach, wrong speed, thrusts, he should have gone around when he landed half-way down the runway. Maybe not, since we don't know the weight, many factors. Some Inadequacies here, nonetheless. But glad they survived, though they lost the aircraft! I'm not sure 3 months suspension for the FO was enough, (he WAS yelling "put it down, put it down" but I hope that time was spent in the flight simulator! I expect the Captain went out on pension, but that was the end of his flying career, as it probably should have been. A bit more than just bad luck there!
Turboplayzz (6 months ago)
Why was the first officer suspended! That’s stupid
Bodragon (6 months ago)
(3:41) - "braking", not "breaking". Fuck! You got it right, the first time at (3:32).
tnt mendar (6 months ago)
your are not have high speed on the end of runway and im watch the video on the tv and this flight are landing in high speed
tnt mendar (6 months ago)
and i not are angry to you.You have little bit erorr
TheRoboLoris (6 months ago)
Use fsx
Bradley Unruh (6 months ago)
First officer needs more time in simulator. Weather can be tricky. Depth perception?
Glyn Stein (6 months ago)
I wish your videos had audio?
John Richards (6 months ago)
Suspended for three months? He should never again have been permitted at the controls of an airplane carrying the public.
Branon Fontaine (7 months ago)
AirBus aircraft are terrible, with poor build quality and exceedingly too much tech, enabling pilots to be subpar at best....
kenjryker (4 months ago)
Branon - That is a very ignorant statement and is just about your feelings.
Cleciane Galeno (7 months ago)
[OCB] (7 months ago)
Should have gone around after the first 10 seconds. But that's easy to say after you know what happened.
anuj varma (7 months ago)
everyone survived is what matters the most.
simpsonfan13 (7 months ago)
This is the one with that bitch that was seemingly, utterly ungrateful about being saved right?
Sccratlanta (7 months ago)
Why do you still use fs2004? Get with the new technology.
S.K S.K (7 months ago)
2 days before my birthday on 4 August 2005
David W. (2 months ago)
I landed in Toronto 2 days before this. Watched it on the news. Couldn’t believe no one died
Lil Grinch (3 months ago)
S.K S.K thats excatly the same birthday i have
DanM101 (4 months ago)
28 days after my birthday
S.K S.K (6 months ago)
Branon Fontaine Than you i think now what on 12 August 1985 be happend , or ?
Branon Fontaine (7 months ago)
S.K S.K....I too was born on Aug 4th, but I'm a bit older than you...yep, I'm an old man, I was born in 1973...lol :)
woodsie5474 (7 months ago)
Please help me, Allec. I have a friend that says that at 39,000 feet, a 747-400 HAS to be flown by computer, as the difference between maximum speed and stall speed is only 10 knots. I can't believe that Boeing would design an airframe with specs. that close.  Is it true?
Offworld (6 months ago)
woodsie5474 I'm not entirely sure about those 10 knots, but the general idea is correct. As you climb the air around you gets thinner, therefore reducing lift, so you have go to faster to generate more lift. At FL410, which is pretty much the maximum cruising altitude used as far as I am aware (feel free to correct me) , the difference beween the maximum speed and the stall speed is indeed very small, leaving not a lot of margin for error. Having autothrust in this situation helps a lot, as you don't have to modulate the thrust all the time to stay within the margin
Some Sort of Geek (7 months ago)
Poor guy lost the job that he dreamed of since he was a kid...
blessOTMA (8 months ago)
I like miracles
Michael Ecoben (8 months ago)
Why pilot didnt very slow the engine cause there noobs or they have problem
Max Penn (6 months ago)
My guess is concern about low level wind shear.
trazkey trazkey (8 months ago)
All passengers, Crew, Pilots survived?? A Wonders!!
Muhammad Akram Al Hanif (8 months ago)
Can you do AF66? It is an Airbus A380 That have engine failure over the atlantic.
Sam Lockner (8 months ago)
Why was the first officer suspended?
Grant Christensen (8 months ago)
Well, don't let the 1st Officer land the damn plane !!!
Frank Quitely (8 months ago)
What does "heavy" mean when communicating with the tower?
Robert Hagedorn (9 months ago)
It's amazing everyone survived. I'm guessing the aircraft split open like a watermelon upon coming to a stop in such a way that the passengers were able to just unbuckle their seat belts and run away unimpeded. Maybe the wind helped too, by blowing the flames away from the fleeing passengers. Also, the plane was probably going fairly slow at the very end of the runway. A lot of things had to go right at the last minute for everyone to survive. The captain should have taken control of the situation and ordered a go around. He was the senior officer.
telestrat060 (9 months ago)
It`s braking, not breaking
Smedley Butler (9 months ago)
yyz.good song!
jermed2001 (9 months ago)
Kind of pissed me off at the end, although I'm so glad to hear everyone lived! First officer should've been fired. 😡
William Sawyer (9 months ago)
The rush to judgement in the comments on this crash is quite interesting. Yes, the aircraft touched down ‘long’. Yes it touched down at a higher speed than it should. Yes, the pilots delayed activating the thrust reversers. Yes, the pilots did not initiate a go-around. And, the Transportation Safety Board of Canada did ultimately assign primary responsibility for the crash The rush to judgement in the comments on this crash is quite interesting. Yes, the aircraft touched down ‘long’. Yes it touched down at a higher speed than it should. Yes, the pilots delayed activating the thrust reversers. Yes, the pilots did not initiate a go-around. And, the Transportation Safety Board of Canada did ultimately assign primary responsibility for the crash to the actions of the pilots. But, the TSB also noted some contributing factors, in its report: • At 300 feet above ground level, the wind changed from a headwind to a tailwind. So, at very low altitude the winds changed abruptly, and they suddenly had a tailwind to contend with instead of the planned, and preferred, headwind! Could that have affected their touchdown point? You can bet on it! In fact, the Captain’s comment to ‘Put it down’ was a reflection of what the First Officer was experiencing with the tailwind. • While approaching the threshold, the aircraft entered an intense downpour and the forward visibility became severely reduced. Not only did they experience a wind shift, but they lost much of their forward visibility at a critical moment. Remember, the simulation video depicts the path of the plane – it does NOT depict the actual environmental conditions the pilots faced during the final approach and touchdown. • When the aircraft was near the threshold, the crew members committed to the landing and believed their go-around option no longer existed. Essentially, the pilots succumbed to a form of tunnel vision – they were committed to landing the airplane, they just wanted to get it on the ground. This is all too common in aviation, and is frequently cited as a contributing factor in crashes. But, the flight crew was in all likelihood experiencing some fatigue. They had flown though bad weather as they approached the airport, and were put in a holding pattern for several minutes. When they were over the threshold, they were probably psychologically committed to landing, to the perceived ‘safety’ of the ground. I doubt that being ‘French pilots’ had a lot to do with it. A similar situation, with a much more tragic outcome, occurred with an American Airlines flight (and American pilots) which encountered a storm as they were landing in Little Rock, and Alec has done an excellent job of simulating that crash as well. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hyCPdSL-eY) When a crash occurs, the vast majority of competent pilots that I fly with are very reluctant to point fingers, as some are doing in these comments. Most of us are once again reminded that, ‘But for the vagaries of fortune, that might have been me.’ And, we are primarily interested in understanding what happened, so we can learn from the experience (and misfortune, as it were) of others, not in assigning blame! I have had a few close calls on landing in adverse weather, and I know my judgment helped put me in that situation. I doubt that you will find a competent pilot who cannot recount at least one similar experience.
blogman (9 months ago)
As a pilot I need to say that this was a disgraceful display of airmanship, absolutely unforgivable to land halfway down the runway and without going around, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS CONVEYED TO THEM, PRIOR TO THIS DREADFUL LANDING, THAT BRAKING EFFICIENCY WAS IMPAIRED!! It was so fortunate that people didn't die at the hands of these two idiots. I'm amazed the F/O was allowed to fly again ... steer clear of Air France, this twat may be flying you!
boobam (16 days ago)
thank goodness for you two blustery vaginas piping in your expertise. i was gonna fly air france and thought to myself.. wwbd. what would blogman do? and the pussy lady is none to pleased with performance either. it’s not a hard choice when two of aviation’s biggest cunts comment on internet. so i furiously tugged on my misshapen wiener and declared i don’t fly with frenchie no mo
Madam_Meow99 (4 months ago)
As a viewer of Air Crash Investigation, crash videos and ATC recordings, I'm coming to the conclusion that ALL airline pilots in general need better and more frequent training. Aircraft carriers also need to stop rushing flights and the crew b/c flying is not like making burgers on an assembly line. I work in healthcare and the same applies there, too.
fred 43 (10 months ago)
Do Western airlines 2605
Combustion69 (10 months ago)
the french really are useless at everything
Phillip Davies (5 months ago)
Speak for yourself....I think you are both a pair of dicks.
Geneva Mapping (7 months ago)
And, as aforementioned, you're rude and arrogant- Typical Brit.
Geneva Mapping (7 months ago)
And, might I add, the Brits are a bunch of empire-destroying assholes. All they do is drink tea and be moody.
Geneva Mapping (7 months ago)
Ah, so you're a bunch of tea-drinking pussies, my mistake!
Combustion69 (7 months ago)
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MarEpor (10 months ago)
pretty obvious on why the plane overran the runway, there was no reverse thrust
Chrismt Productions 2 (10 months ago)
Nice vid
InfiniteFlyer (10 months ago)
Why is it different on cockpit
MsAnne Trophy (10 months ago)
Talk about human error🙁
Joe Jordan (10 months ago)
Stop playing these videos at the plane makes it back safely who cares who want to see videos and slamming into cities and people are getting off of work or something