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These are just my thougts on the PVD drivers. I think its an effective way to get the job done during peak. Let me know down below if you disagree and why. Pay Pal Donations Here - https://paypal.me/TylerBinder344 Email- Tbinder38219182@gmail.com
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studentof REVIEW (1 day ago)
Why not go through a temp agency if possible? It will be temp work, once peak is done, let the temp agency handle them. Not sure if possible but just a thought.
Michael Weber (3 days ago)
I was just hired as a PVD driver. I’m laid off from my road construction job in November and have nothing to do anyway. $18.75 per hour plus 54 cents a mile to deliver packages in my hometown for a month and a half. Can’t wait to get started.
Seri Abutaha (4 days ago)
3 year PVD here. I'm grateful for the seasonal opportunity. Most drivers are really good to us. I had 3 years as a DH before, the experience is helpful.
Nicholas Anderson (5 days ago)
Fuck ups 🤦
Sam Vazquez (5 days ago)
I'm a seasonal driver. During the rest of the year I work at the hub and during peak I drive.
Joe S (5 days ago)
F Jeff Bezos As long as he gets to be the richest guy in the world, pay his employees welfare wages, ruining the last vestige of earning a middle class income if your willing to work for it. GRANDMA NEEDS SAME DAY DILDO DELIVERY!
Mark Rosado (5 days ago)
All I hear is waaaaaaaaa....such a victim mindset
Jarred Random (5 days ago)
Wow, ups sure has changed since I left.
sameritaco (5 days ago)
At the oak creek hub some deleveries come out of rented semis. They have 8 high volume stops. In my two years ive never once seen a pvd
Tom Federico (6 days ago)
If you have to use your own car, pay should be at least 25$ to start, to cover all costs...Taking advantage of us, and we jump like suckers....
rteamster (7 days ago)
Our local union here in Florida has stated that the are not in agreement on the use of pvd subcontractors and the company is taking overtime away from the package drivers as I write this.. if we didn't have our drivers wanting the work or complaining about overtime maybe there would be a need as I see .. they are taking the full time package drivers work away from them and subcontracting which is a violation
Hector Flores (8 days ago)
I would say do not worry about this becoming main stream, while it is convenient, I work in a General Electric plant as a Guard and it's kinda sketchy sometimes to receive people on personal vehicles without no prior notice. So I hardly doubt anyone on both ends wants this to be more than just complimentary. I do believe however self-driving trucks might be a problem for you guys on the longer term.
YuhBoi P (8 days ago)
When you are a bottom driver, the new drivers get seniority for the extra new routes which is BS! Maybe it doesn’t effect the top drivers but the bottom cover drivers it does.
MrGommer101 (10 days ago)
Amazon is buying UPS good luck
MrGommer101 (4 days ago)
You can't that is why you get an education and stop living in the past were unions paid un skilled labor great money new era buddy
John Douglass (5 days ago)
MrGommer101 If this is true y'all are doomed. Hope you can make it on $15/hr.
Michael Threet (10 days ago)
I agree to a point except when they are taking the farthest point deliveries, and loading up good routes with more in town work. Anyone can tell you the easiest stops are rural.
Whitey McCracker (10 days ago)
I disagree with you Tyler, and I will tell you why: The whole reason there is a union in the first place, is because we (as a collective) went to UPS and said “we want to do the work.” Without that basic foundation, there is no point of a union. UPS has survived over 100 years of Christmas’. Over the past few years, economists have [accurately] predicted every peak - yet UPS management seemed to continually act surprised by the volume. They have fooled a lot of people (possibly even you) into believing them. This is how to fix the problem without adding personal vehicle drivers: 1) Make the temporary drivers pull full routes like they used to. These days management seems to want casuals to have only a hand full of streets. They should be out with as much work as a full time package car driver. 2) The rentals should also be used to deliver bulk retail - not just shuttle work. How many more stops can you do if you didn’t have a Walmart? 3) Have local sort use the rentals at night to do pick ups. This should alleviate much of the time wasted on air meets and the dumping of pick up pieces. 4) Contractually, UPS has to replace the fleet after so many years. The economists say this peak volume will increase by 8%. Ask yourself if you think 8% of the fleet in your building need to be replaced. UPS should buy the trucks now, put drivers behind those wheels, and replace the fleet in January.
Tyler Binder (9 days ago)
Whitey McCracker good feedback
legendsofevil (11 days ago)
With a PVD driver that makes 18.75 per hour, how much does gas impact that wage? I am starting my PVD job this week so I want to know how much I will actually be making
Lancero1013 (11 days ago)
I completely agree with you Tyler. However Im going to digress a bit here though. Your argument for these PVDs is the same argument I made when it comes to 22.4s. There simply is not enough work, at least in my bldg, to warrant creating enough FT RPCDs to cover the weekend work, and foreseeable future Sunday delivery work, and then guarantee them and the existing RPCDs 8hrs each day. We run about 140-160 routes a day out of our bldg, just to give you an idea of the size of my hub. Outside of working 22.4s as pkg drivers 40+/hrs a week, how is a 22.4 running weekends and then helping out a few hours during the week any different than the argument you make for these PVDs? Again, you are spot on when it comes to these PVDs. There really is no other viable way to handle the volume we are getting each year at this time.
Dale Williams (11 days ago)
Also if they expand the amount of package cars, and run a short preload after the normal drivers leave they could send out a small fleet of residential only package cars say noon,
Dale Williams (11 days ago)
The problem is if they try to staff all of the part timers who want to do cover or seasonal driving to do this PVD
shawn colemen (11 days ago)
Sorry but im seasonal. Have been for over a year. Pay union dues and i just voted on the contract as well. So you're misinformed about seasonals.
Tyler Binder (9 days ago)
shawn colemen Right to work States. I said it twice. Glad to see you stuck it out. Hopefully you get the full time spot your looking for im assuming?
Kyle W (11 days ago)
My building spent 800,000$ for us to park a mile from work and shuttle us. Oh and they're not paying us when we get on the shuttles either
frank p (12 days ago)
Rentals
Phillip Sell (12 days ago)
I'm fine with PVD during peak I just hope they get some kind of maintenance protection and are aloud to use facility fuel pumps, without those protections I think a sizable chunk of their 18.75 an hour is going to be taken advantage of
Graham Jones (12 days ago)
Just like he said, pvd drivers are basically the same as seasonal drivers. Big deal.
tl2003 sev (12 days ago)
Paying you shitty. Are you fuckin kidding !!!!!!! They pay you a lot of money. Way more than any delivery company out there !!!!!! Be thankful for you job and wage !!!!!!!!
tl2003 sev (12 days ago)
+Tyler Binder with full benefits Again full benefits which I don't know any company that it gives part-timers full benefits plus vacations plus sick days. They're making good money with all that combined and you know it... I didn't make shit when I was part time but I knew that phone into ups but I knew later on when I went driving I would make more. And your comment on this YouTube you said shity wages you didn't say part-time shity wages you said shity wages
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
tl2003 sev part timers. You can't just think about drivers 24/7 they make up less then half of the work force. Drivers are the minority
James Middleton (12 days ago)
I have a selfish point of view on this. I want the work. It's peak. All the time rules go out the window. I can work 60 hours and nobody says anything. I worry that they will start using more and more of these further reducing the hours we can work. Also to add to this they need to check what type of vehicle they're driving. We only used 2 last year but one guy was trying to do it out of a Honda Accord. Made no sense and we had to constantly help him so it was a waste of time. Needs to be SUV, minivan or above to be effective.
Tyler Binder (9 days ago)
James Middleton Well if your hours fell you could grieve the work. I just don't think that's happened ever. I see your point. Let me know when you have an empty truck in December I'll transfer to your hub haha
Kevin Echeverry (12 days ago)
2 out of the 4 trucks I loaded during peak last year. What a nightmare trying to keep each package in pal order.
Tyler Binder (9 days ago)
Kevin Echeverry Thanks for your efforts im sure it's a nightmare
Justin Bird (12 days ago)
Boss says he ends up delivering package for PVDs because they just don't get it done. Can I greive that or do they get a pass during peak?
dylan johnson (12 days ago)
I don't agree with this, but if they are going to do this why not ask the hub employees first?
BobaJett (11 days ago)
dylan johnson They can if they want to.
Mike G. (12 days ago)
Never understood why our PC's are so expensive? They don't have shit.
Russ Elsberry (12 days ago)
I must be fortunate to work in a good center. Last year was my first year with a PVD driver. I was able to work with him design a functional route for him. He rode with me, met some of my customers. I was not short on hours by any means.It was one of my most enjoyable peak seasons ever!! Taking pride in your work and having a positive attitude does wonders.My PVD in a way was my driver helper. Us working as a team gave UPS customers a positive holiday experience!!
Bridget Scileppi (7 days ago)
Glad I scrolled far enough down to read this positive comment. Well stated!
Hackasawrus Rex (12 days ago)
$80,000 x 50 package cars = $4,000,000...definitely unreasonable
algierssolja (12 days ago)
Didn't he just say his building is running double volume? That is the answer to what to do with the drivers right there. That said I am pretty in different about pvds atm. The problem is in the future. "They are not taking your work" then beeps at scab in youkon pulling out of hub with 100 stops as I am rushing in for 9.5. I say this all the time "I don't know how UPS is still #1" Our infrastructure is outdated, we don't have enough trucks, our air operation is laughable compared to FedEx and the Union is a joke.
Rick1979 (12 days ago)
I think we all know that once they start something like that they plan the future around exploiting it so it's only a matter of time until they're making a late pickup here and a delivery there. UPS can more than afford rental vehicles for them. Your thought process is what lead to part timers being screwed. Ken Hall told me himself that in order for full time employees to get x amount of raise of pension that the part time wages needed cut and now we see how that turned out. By the time UPS pays mileage they could probably just us well rent vehicles anyway. If you want to make it about money, what happens when someone in a personal vehicle kills a pedestrian and doesn't have a commercial insurance policy and UPS is on the hook for millions. It's just stupid and a poor business practice. But that's just me.
Kobe James (12 days ago)
What about the quality of the deliveries? Now we have people just throwing packages anywhere like Amazon. I just seen a Amazon driver throw 3 packages down a hill from the front door while I was walking to the front door to deliver. Smh
Mike Bittinger (12 days ago)
Great video well said
KawaRider88 (12 days ago)
Use them for weekend work.
Jeo D (12 days ago)
3 ways it hurts us and bad are 1. There is very small chance but it does happen, they may keep a driver that is seasonal if they do well and come at the right time so they go straight to driver without working in the hub ever. 2. When they hire that driver off the street for a permanent position that makes the list go slower cause they got one more person who initially shouldn’t of ever been offered that job. 3. They put a stop to calling people from the driver list around November causing the list not to move at all. Solution if they didn't hire seasonal drivers they would be forced to push the list more quickly during the year so that they could be staffed for it. And the vehicle solution would still be to rent uhauls. And once the season is over then they should just send drivers back to the hub by señority. Cause that’s whats fair and then we wouldn’t need outside help. Instead they do a lousy job with the driver list during the year because they don’t worry about getting staffed for peek and then the employees loose and the company wins by saving money
TheMindofRobert (12 days ago)
100%, man. Completely agree.
k doggy (12 days ago)
I'm ok with those pvd drivers if they keep me from working 12 hour days.... 8 and skate baby!!
comcasthawk (12 days ago)
Good video and I appreciate your honesty. That said, peak season is way too much on drivers. If it wasn’t for drivers calling each other on cell phones to help each other out, my center would fold. The company has no idea how fortunate they are to have most of us as employees, but there is too much working I’m tired of acting like a supervisor to get the job done.......helping and getting help with pickups.......seeing who needs delivery help. I do it because I care about the people I work with. I’ll take whatever help they offer.
Cheri Schluter (12 days ago)
I thought in the new national contract the language said no PVD drivers?
Properfunny (12 days ago)
My building has had U-Hauls since Augest and they are offering a $100 bonus to internal employees who show up every day for the driver helpers. They have been begging employees to become drivers and nobody wants to deal with our management. Also in my building from Thanksgiving to Christmas most drivers where getting 70+ hours and we where getting drivers from other centers to help us and we where stuffed to the gills until the very end.
Anthony Trent (12 days ago)
The company is going to do whatever they want anyway. I just thank the Lord I’m top rate. So if there’s any Mickey Mouse bs, and there will be, I’m making bank after 4 pm .
Amanda Wagner (12 days ago)
We have a lot of gun dealers that work out of their houses and have other jobs. Where do pvd keep the packages that can't be delivered, that are guns shipment. Do pvd know proper procedure for handling those kind of situation. Also last year we had a pvd hot boxing his vehicle while doing his job, with these kind of shipments on his vehicle. This is my problem with pvd. They r complete unsupervised and not properly trained.
Ortiz Racing #7 (12 days ago)
PVD’s is entirely not a bad thing! Years back when we were part timers n air drivers we had a truck shortage! The company paid the part timers to deliver air n utility rate plus mileage to use our own vehicles! We had to provide our own insurance n maintaince! We had uniforms n the company provided us a formal badge to wear! The company needs to remain solvent n profitable to survive n compete! If it’s for 60 days I agree any longer no! Gives part timers the opportunity to make some extra cash for the holidays!
Clayton Crump (12 days ago)
during peak season ups lowkey can do whatever they want and the union well not stop them
Michael Rosati (12 days ago)
You have to play the game . If you are not royalty you are a serf.
Dusty Bowhunter (12 days ago)
The personal vehicle drivers took alot of overtime away from full time drivers last year, some was happy and some wasnt
FutureZeal (12 days ago)
I don't believe it hurts us. We well still be working our 12, 13 hour shifts during peak even with PVDs working. Do I really want to work til 10pm or will I be ok with a PVD taking my 7k and 8k shelf. I'm a TCD so my route is only residential with only 3 - 8 businesses on it. 180 to 210 stops keeps me out til around 7pm. Peak will put me at close to 300 stops so having a PVD wouldn't do me any harm at all.
steven sorg (12 days ago)
This sounds like talking out of both sides of your mouth. You dont want the 70 hour rule forced on you but you dont want to make the company hire more drivers? The number one founding principal of the unions is a 8 hour, 5 day standard of work. Not the 9-10+ hour day when UPS feels they can force you to and 7 hour day when they dont need you. So where do you stand your ground at as a union employee, at the discretion of the company to meet the needs of the company...I mean customer?
Justin Vasquez (12 days ago)
They can still let cover drivers drive an deliver.... Since the contract was ratified right?, Although technically its not because if it was we should have got are raise put in our payroll. It does not make sense if they dont give us our retro check, than oviously its not passed.... Thats just my logic though. They should continue with cover drivers but they wont because when those cover drivers go full time they will start their progression @$26 dollars instead of $18.75, or 22 whatever it is. Thats why they go hire outside help. Its all about penny pinching their employees. All for the benefit of their share holders..... The only share holders that benefit from this though are the ones that have money like warren buffet. An trust me their are plenty. The average driver that buys stock every week at 15% of their check still benefits very little depending on how you look at it.... The Economy doesn't grow buy Corporations penny pintching their employees to death. Neither does it grow buy taking advantage of the desperate sub contacting high brid driver off the street!!! Hmmm sounds familiar doesn't it. They hold our money hostage just like the govenment steals our money. Looks like the ones that are gunna benefit from are retro checks is uncle sam when we get taxed on are all in one lump some checks. The old saying the more you make. The more uncle sam gets. We have a problem in America right now an its simply there is to much government control, an its only getting worse..... Just Ron Paul an mine opinions though.
CitizenT Crusader (12 days ago)
Tyler I’ve been driving for almost 21 years in Bay Area California and for every year up until this year overtime has been out of control but for the first time I’m seeing a big reduction in ot, for the last 2 months they’ve really kept it down and are hiring lots of drivers and I’m wondering what your take on this is? Thanks
CitizenT Crusader (12 days ago)
Local 315
Ruben Bustillos (12 days ago)
Tbiskit87! Crusader what local do you work at 287?
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Ezukowsky39 (12 days ago)
It makes sense from a business standpoint. Ups can’t base their entire plan around just that month of dec. Hence basically getting everything delivered by any means. Shit I have more to add but I just can’t type anymore
Ezukowsky39 (12 days ago)
Always respect your outlook on things. Hope you took care of my 804 boys this weekend. Lol. Jk
Randall Kendall (12 days ago)
I'm in Feeders but we dont use PVD's that I have seen, but at my Center which is just over 100 miles South of Atlanta (Corporate). We have been using Golf Carts with an open utility trailer behind them for at least 6 yrs.. Last year I think they used 15 and heard this year I.E. is planning on 21. Usually in the AM a Supervisor or sometimes a driver will drop off an enclosed trailer (UPS/UHAUL) full of packages somewhere for a person to work out of. A small tarp is used to cover what they can when it rains but doesn't work well. When they were first used Grievances were filed for being unsafe to be on the road. (No seatbelts, turn signals, brake lights, tires say off road use only, trailer lights don't hook up at all, no horn and our city doesn't allow them on our roads but police just look the other way) Union 728 said nothing can be done but just across the river in Alabama (Dothan , Enterprise) they filed and the Carts were returned to the rental place. We also hire off the street peak drivers that get trained for a few days then they will work for about 8 - 10 weeks then they are gone. This year they are planning on 6 of those. I dont have a problem with temporary peak drivers or the PVD's only during peak working if everyone that is already employed that is wanting to work is being used. I do have a problem with the Golf Carts going across busy roads with no lights in zones where traffic could be running over 30 mph on cart that runs 22 mph or less for a Company that has a Big Safety Department that goes around with their safety vests and then they even have a Safety Committee at our Center also. Every peak either my wife or myself get a phone call from family or friends saying they almost ran in the back of one the trailers being pulled in the dark by a golf cart. In my 29 years the volume in our small building has gotten out of control during peak so I understand trying to find alternative means to get the job done. The Internet and Amazon make it not what it was 10 years ago. Yes the volume has gone way up in the off season but peak is off the charts. People , for the most part , just sit at home and order. Going to the mall is a thing of the past it seems.
Ghee-33 Ghee-88 (12 days ago)
Next is drones for smalls
Ghee-33 Ghee-88 (12 days ago)
Hope you are buying physical precious metals as well
Kelvin Pocasangre (12 days ago)
Dallas hub does 80,000 on a regular week! During peak it’s 100,000+ 😂
IBENOUTMYMIND (12 days ago)
Im in lathrop hub California. They said that big ass hub needs to be doing 100k an hour during peak lol. Idk but this hub is huge and i bet Dallas is to. Peace bro
Tim Smith (12 days ago)
Why do we need them most of use only worked 8 to 9 hours last peak and we had to go help ALL the pvd driver because they could not get done and they only ran residential stops. We cant get helpers anymore because ups only worked them as little as a 1 hour and no more than 3 normally.
Rainy Days (12 days ago)
Anyone dumb enough to use there vehicles to deliver pkgs. No one took the bait to do it where we are.
Tim Smith (12 days ago)
I file a damn grievance last year on behalf of the whole building. One year later still waiting to here it, I am told by my BA that its now a national grievance MORE union BS.
The Braaap (12 days ago)
Although I like the idea of us hiring seasonal drivers/PVD’s, but why can’t we offer these temporary seasonal driving jobs to part timers first rather than hiring directly off the street? I’d like us to utilize seasonal help for inside less paying jobs and give our union brother and sisters the opportunity to make some extra money even if it’s only for a short period of time. Just my 2 cents.
The Braaap (12 days ago)
Tyler Binder Correct. My building did as well for seasonal drivers. However, in my building they hired the PVD’s off the street even when we had additional part timers that wanted to drive. So I suggest either 1. Add more “regular “ seasonal drivers or 2. Ask part timers first if they would like to be a PVD before looking for outside help.
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
The Braaap Every building that I know of puts up seasonal driving bids and driver helper bids for part timers before going off the street.
Luis Fernandez (12 days ago)
No PVD's. Drivers get paid all the overtime and get a helper. They keep hiring more helpers every year but only want them working 3 to 4 hours. They continue pushing 9 5 even during peak. This bull has to stop. I know every route is different but a good driver with a well trained helper can do wonders.
Focal Point Images (1 day ago)
I am totally fine being capped at 9.5. UPS has already stole enough of my life the last 29 years. Let the overtime whores get their fill, not me.
rteamster (7 days ago)
The problem is our local union here in Florida has stated that the are not in agreement on the use of pvd and I am seeing personally drivers having overtime taking away from them not by their choice while using these subcontractors
FutureZeal (12 days ago)
Yeah I remember drivers working up to 8-10 hours at my center. We didn't have 9.5 last peak.
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
Luis Fernandez last year, here anyways we all had helpers. Used them around 7/9 hours a day and still fell way behind. You are correct every place is different
Marcus Williams (12 days ago)
That "brick" background speaks volumes to the awakened who knows of the satanic MASONIC agenda. The Teamsters, logo, is reason enough to stop paying dues.
TheBrucecantu (12 days ago)
haha
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
Marcus Williams you are making me nervous
Cobramlw (12 days ago)
I like PVD's. They help alot and keep the customers happy.
Danny Ramirez (12 days ago)
Using personal vehicles is not an entirely new concept. Supes would divide air work processed after preload shift ended and all the drivers bugged out. Mostly handed to drivers on route. Varied options hub to hub. New Permant routes are neccessary hence the creation of 22.4 and excessive ot during non peak. But senior ptimers who like to hustle over 5 hour ot during peak can deliver in their cars. Provided the company don't screw them down to lower rate. Like they do when they are helper after regular shift! Example: peak season 8 or 9 hours plus 4 to 5 hours delivery. = 5 hours straight plus 8 to 9 hours time and a half! Air. Saturday. Exception. Drivers increased rates. During peak. Bottom line. Peak season Delivery should be ot rate as 1st option. Peak = more money. Losing money didn't stop company from giving out 300 a week bonuses to new hires for just showing up everyday.
Danny Ramirez (12 days ago)
Kobe James This was about 12 years ago. As I said. No-one was left in building to file a grievance. Employees were left to sort air. But get this. They'd punch them out. Then punch them back in. When air would arrive. Air was guaranteed. So they'd lose money if couldn't make delivery commitments opposed to grievance. If you were walking out building. A manager would ask you where you live. And see if he could pass you pieces. They were mostly air envelopes. You would drive your car up into building. At least that's what supes would do. Personal vehicles not an entirely new concept. Neither is Manager's preparing for contingencies for after shift processed parcells.
Kobe James (12 days ago)
Supe driving out air? You guys don't file grievances enough 😂😂😂 backlog all the supervisor working grievances until there are too many to keep putting off.
Conscious Soul Living (12 days ago)
Just so you know, seasonal employees pay UNION DUES TOO! #california #uniongettingpaid🙅🏾‍♀️
The Drive Inside (12 days ago)
No they don’t
I am alive. (12 days ago)
+Tyler Binder I would too. Why pay dues for something that is only temporary?
Conscious Soul Living (12 days ago)
Tyler Binder Wish I could post a screenshot of the IRONICALLY & newly implemented law that says they have a right to collect those dues as of Jan 2018! However, Stevie Wonder can SEE that the union had negotiated certain terms with the corporation & politicians to be paid CREATIVELY & IMMENSELY to push this new contract thru! This newly implemented law effective Jan 01, 2018-December 2020 is confirmation for Me!👎🏿
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
Conscious Soul Living Right to work is garbage. Needs to go.
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
Conscious Soul Living Sure we CAN but the seasonals CAN refuse, and they always do
Conscious Soul Living (12 days ago)
While I see your point, however, we should’ve been able to use that point as a bargaining tool to get something back in return! Sick & tired of being the ONLY side to see reason!
T Hill (6 days ago)
Conscious can u explain what in ur contract did u give up?
JEFFREY (7 days ago)
Conscious Soul Living Every contract we’re giving up something. It’s bullshit.
eatoner135 (12 days ago)
meh, we had the PVD drivers last peak season. This was actually hilarious, one left the POD unlocked and thought someone broke into it, then we had 4 people quit in the middle of the work day and didnt tell anyone. This peek season the company has decided against the use of it in our major metropolitan area
eatoner135 (12 days ago)
+Tyler Binder yeah, it was a complete disaster, we were an hour out from the hub and it took 4 of us to bail the company out of that mess when they quit mid day and didn't tell anyone.
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
eatoner135 This is true. They normally have no idea what they are getting themselves into
Kevin Michael (12 days ago)
No PVD'S EVER!! Why not just merge with UBER? SMH. By the way, I was a teamster from '95 to '07. I went on strike in '97 at age 21 just as I was able to go full time (and lost about 2 years of a promotion) for the benefit of YOUR future. This allowing PVD's is an insult to us who ACTUALLY sacrificed our livelyhood to build a better union. Looks like it was just a waste of valuable time... FYI, In Florida we had ZERO STRIKE FUND to carry us through our hardship, so a little respect is due, I really did SACRIFICE my potential future for this shell of a union. You disappoint me, Tyler.
Lancero1013 (11 days ago)
+Kevin Michael And thats why youre not the CEO dude. The way PVDs are handled may not be perfect, but there is no other economically viable way to do it on the fly. Your mindset is the same that the UAW members had back in the 80's and 90's that drove the automakers out of the country and caused many members to lose their jobs. Despite the insane amount of money UPS makes, it is finite .
Brad Boisvert (11 days ago)
+Oolie Bouy I hear ya man i may have come off rude my apologies
Chris Baca (12 days ago)
This company needs to update their facilities and fleet. PVDs are unacceptable
Oolie Bouy (12 days ago)
algierssolja you’re right, they could. But that’s all dependent on your center too. We have 90 drivers, last January there were less than 60 routes on Mondays and Tuesday’s. Yeah, 25+ people sitting the bench twice a week. Some of them more. Not including TCD’s or combos. All those people were RPCD’s. I am a steward, I heard about it for over 2 months from those folks. This is the problem they are trying to avoid by using the PVD’s. We have 100+ 22.3’s on the air side that some are combo’s as well. They cut routes and our dispatch days were still 9.5+ when you could easily dispatch an 8 hour day and let 10 or 15 of those guys on the bench work. It’s not just about me sir. Let’s just be clear about that.
Oolie Bouy (12 days ago)
Brad Boisvert I’ve been there 27 years. I’m 52 years old. I’ve been through the grind many times. My daughters have graduated from college with no student loans. My house is paid for. UPS has given me a pretty good life. I don’t need the money anymore. It’s not a matter of working 70 hours sir, I don’t want 70 hours. I’m close to retirement, the body doesn’t quite work like it used too. So relax man, I’m not boo hooing anything. If they want me to work 70, I’ll work 70, I’m just ready to not do that anymore.
ironeagle2526 (12 days ago)
They probably pay them more than 22.4 drivers
Nick B (12 days ago)
I'm in California I know other buildings around me do this but I was wondering across the country. My building has done it forever we rent storage sheds or mobile storage pods and they shuttle packages out there during the day then around 5pm I have to go and load up more stops from them. What is stupid is they put $5 lock on on it in and they've been broken into... Legit last year I was leaving stops out of my truck. I had what we call "pod work" I was in a small truck that's all we had is what my boss told me. So I would leave with a full truck go do my pod work then they would bring me the rest of what I left out in the morning.. basically three trucks worth of work or 2.5
Brian E (12 days ago)
We need to pick our battles, ups personal delivery drivers help us to maintain and service our routes and keep customers. We need to concentrate on getting rid of hoffa
algierssolja (12 days ago)
100% this... Give the company 1 more inch towards their mile.
Joaquin Gomez (12 days ago)
100% this
brian busch (12 days ago)
Amazon Fulfillment Centers do that year round
Captain Jaber (3 days ago)
+John Douglass People look at what the rack in dollars pay check to pay check, what about people doing part time on top of another full time job? There's several ways to think about it.
John Douglass (5 days ago)
brian busch That is why Amazon is a threat to y'alls jobs. Amazon is very good at shifting operating expenses to other people and businesses (USPS for example), and that is why Bezos is so wealthy. I'd wager that after tallying up all of the expenses, such as fuel, insurance, maintenance and vehicle depreciation, these PVD fools are making less than minimum wage. There's a sucker born every minute, and if you impoverish said sucker, you can screw them over really good.
Nick B (12 days ago)
The PVD they hired in my building last year they would send him to the farthest town away from our building all country stops. Super long day
William Pina (13 days ago)
I'm worried about the Uberization of our jobs in the future. This year we have no pick ups in our zip codes they are giving the pick up strings to utility drivers , I say shuttle those stops to us !! . They are talking about us being 9.5 during peak those drivers again will be used to save UPS money by taking it away from us .
William Pina (9 days ago)
+semaj d yup ! exactly even without pick ups it's freaken heavy as fuck !
semaj d (9 days ago)
William Pina 9.5 during peak?? I’d like to see that.
Benji Austin (13 days ago)
They should NOT have crushed all of the older trucks. They used to park unused trucks at the back of our property, pull the battery out. It was called being MOTHBALLED. If you needed a vehicle just stick a battery in and roll.
Keith D'Antonio (13 days ago)
I agree brother by the way did u get what i sent you a few weeks back?
Tyler Binder (12 days ago)
Keith D'Antonio I did. I appreciate it very much brother.