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FS2004 - Disaster on Mt. Erebus (Air New Zealand Flight 901)

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Please support this channel by following me on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/allecibay (TE-901) was a scheduled Antarctic sightseeing flight that operated between 1977 and 1979. The flight would leave Auckland Airport in the morning and spend a few hours flying over the Antarctic continent, before returning to Auckland in the evening via Christchurch. On 28 November 1979, the fourteenth flight of TE-901, a , registration ZK-NZP, flew into Mount Erebus on Ross Island, Antarctica, killing all 237 passengers and 20 crew on board. The accident became known as the Mount Erebus disaster. Music: When The Lights Came On Artist: Kai Engel Listen to the entire music here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFS_RWHYx7U Follow me on: https://www.facebook.com/allec.ibay https://www.instagram.com/joshandroma/ https://www.twitter.com/joshandroma
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Becky Rode (2 days ago)
I couldn't get beyond the fact that someone thought it was a good idea to fly a huge jet at 2000 feet as a sightseeing trip. What an odd concept. May they all RIP
ALEXxpress (3 days ago)
Seems like these robotic warning voices that yell PULL UP TERRAIN are always coming on too late, most pilots can't respond in time and crash into mountains and things.😯
madmaxrerisen (5 days ago)
If Flat earth is correct, they would have hit the dome.
Wayne Mathews (10 days ago)
Flying over mountains bugger that
astra234tube (11 days ago)
Could he saved the plane if he was trying an immediate 90 degree turn, instead of trying to gain altitude at the same course?
Ben Doverr (14 days ago)
This one and chape on same nov 28 hmm deliberately brought down to me
Sean Liver (17 days ago)
Didn't they learn from Admiral Byrd having his fleet destroyed going there on a "research mission" after ww2 lol
Chris Davies (18 days ago)
I still remember this happening. No one in NZ was unaffected.
Paul Kersey (21 days ago)
The crash was clearly a pilot error.
Jon Davis (26 days ago)
How can it be the pilots fault when U basically flying into hell
Jon Davis (26 days ago)
If I was the pilot I would refuse to fly to this place
Jon Davis (26 days ago)
Anyone sits on a plane to go to this place has a fukin mental problem
randall williams (26 days ago)
Yeah, I’m not descending until I have the airport in sight. And how about that navy radar they were offered? Radar can’t see a gigantic mountain?
Mike Wang (1 month ago)
Probable cause was sector whiteout which wasnt even discussed in the briefings given to pilots(AIr NZ error).The coordinates were changed prior to the flight but the flight crew were not informed(Air NZ error).The pilots didnt crosscheck that the coordinates of the flight plan that they were briefed on didnt match those of the flight plan on the day(pilot error).Only if they had plotted the actual last two coordinates of the flight plan on a topographical chart would the pilots actually realize the significance of the change in the destination coordinate.For this to be accomplished,you would have to have access to a topographical chart and a large table.In other words,it would have to be done in the pre-flight dispatch phase.The cockpit would not be suitable for such a cross-check.Collins actually did plot the coordinates of the flight plan but he did this using the flight plan given to him during the briefing a week before the crash. Now if the pilots had cross-checked the coordinates of the accident flight plan with those of the briefing flight plan you have to ask yourself two questions:A)would they have taken the discrepancy to the navigation department and asked for clarification?And if so,B)what would the navigation department have told them?According to their own testimony they would have told Collins that the change was only minimal (2nm) and that it wouldnt affect their approach to McMurdo.Now here is the crucial point....Collins would have to recognize that the discrepancy between the 2 coordinates amounted to much more than 2nm and bring this to their attention.1 degree of longtiude at the equator is equal to 60nm but at such extreme southerly latitudes (77S) 1 degree = 13nm only.The longitude coordinate of McMurdo given to Colllins during his briefing a week before the crash was 164'48E whereas the accident flightplan gives McMurdo a longitude of 166'58E.....this is more than TWO degrees about 27nm.I believe that given his experience Collins would have noticed that the discrepancy between the two amounted to much more than 2nm and he would have demanded clarification and that the track to McMurdo be plotted on a chart using this new destination coordinate.In other words,I believe the accident would have been prevented if Collins had checked the accident flight plan against the briefing flight plan.A pilot of his experience would have definitely questioned the navigation department's statement that it was only a 2nm change.For 2 degrees of longitude change to equate to only 2nm you have to be at 88 degrees SOUTH almost at the pole. If this is so,and remembering that whiteout is an optical illusion and human beings cant be blamed for being duped by optical illusions,it is my conclusion that in fact the Pilot in Command is largely to blame for the unfortunate crash.If he had checked those coordinates he would have questioned the navigation dept,he would have seen that the change couldnt have been only 2nm but was in fact 27nm and so was bound to affect his lateral flightpath significantly and hence warranted being re-plotted on a topographical chart.This was the last link in the chain that caused the crash and so must be the probable cause. None of this excuses Air NZ and the NZCAA from their errors and poor oversight, but in the final analysis the pilot in command had the opportunity to detect their errors and prevent the crash.It was his first flight to Antarctica with a 13000' volcano in the vicinity of his final descent,he must check those coordinates are one and the same .......
Everette Jay James (1 month ago)
You get it ere-bus
my starling (1 month ago)
How stupid You send a plane up with 1st time pilots, on a cloudy day. Insane... bless their souls.
Jon Davis (1 month ago)
Why the fuck would anyone get on a flight to Mount Erbus
Jon Davis (1 month ago)
Its probly a very fucked up place with no food or air to breathe
Jon Davis (1 month ago)
Who the he'll would go to Mount Erbus or whatever the fuck it is looks like a real fucked up place like Mount Everest then people wonder why a tragedy happens shit like this pisses me off so much
Annette Elliott (1 month ago)
I don't believe it....what about pull up didnt they understand....
Beige Machine (1 month ago)
The white text on a white background...hard to read.
Captain Kaos (1 month ago)
New Zealand took a leaf out of Americas book on this one and tried the good old coverup trick attempting to discrace the pilot to cover they're lies.
GroomLeader (1 month ago)
Madness. Flying to an area where there is nothing but ice and snow, nowhere to land, is idiotic. It is so very unfortunate that over 200 people had to die, due to ANZ trying to cover their butts. It is also unfortunate that it took a tragedy before these crazy sightseeing jaunts were cancelled.
brkitdwn (1 month ago)
One BIG oiiiii veyyyyy
beeney2 (1 month ago)
Great video Joshua . I read the book about this crash written by the late Capt Gordon Vette . It does go into some detailed scientific explanations of Sector Whiteout , but is well worth reading . This crash has not been covered by programmes like ' Air Crash Investigation ' as isn't that well known . There were also awards given to the Police and recovery personnel who attempted to get as many of the bodies back home  as possible . These guys worked in terrible weather conditions to carry out their grim task . The weather in Antarctica can apparently deteriorate in a matter of minutes . Another crash that doesn't get much coverage is the mid air crash over Croatia ( then Yugoslavia ) involving an Inex Adria DC9 and BEA Trident in 1976 .
Hasnain safeer (1 month ago)
Huge mistake by the both pilot actually thy react like nothing is wrong before disaster
Wat (1 month ago)
There's a really interesting documentary about the cleanup work that had to be done after this crash. A bunch of New Zealand cops had a very hard time removing all the dead bodies, for weeks. It's called Erebus: Into the unknown
Wat (1 month ago)
uhhh sometimes called Operation Overdue. Seems to be the same docu
Narf (2 months ago)
Always a good idea to fly planes in an area with no visibility and where you can't tell if it's a mountain range or the sky. So fucking brilliant!
Narf (2 months ago)
Looks like the pilots had their first...and last flight to Antarctica...ba dum tss
haywoodyoudome (2 months ago)
White text on a white background was an excellent choice.
Wutangkilla1 (2 months ago)
Happy sight seeing guys 👍👀😬
DryBonesGamer[]Retarded Reptile (2 months ago)
Western Airlines flight 2605 crashed shortly after this (DC-10) and American Airlines 191 crashed before this (also DC-10) 1979=great year for DC-10's
Alen Zuzic (2 months ago)
so this was basicly masskilling, changing the flight logg without telling pilots
ProjectFlashlight612 (2 months ago)
Why are people blaming the plane for incorrect flight computer data? That is insane.
Jeffrey E. Johnson (2 months ago)
An unforgettable aviation disaster of immense proportions should never have happened due to sher disregard of flight safety measures, according to horror news of aviation authority investigatiors into the crash. I am lost for words, indeed.
obey conform today (2 months ago)
They saw too much
Vishedward (2 months ago)
Why don't you show how the plane crashes also?
The Interstellar Nomad (2 months ago)
DC were flying shits
Allec Joshua Ibay (2 months ago)
This accident was not even the aircraft's fault.
Sara Beth Williams (2 months ago)
There's something about this accident that for some reason to me, is too tragic. I guess it's because these passengers on this flight were just trying to have some adventure in their lives by flying to Antartica, to see the sights, a once in a lifetime trip, and they end up losing their lives. Too sad, but thought it was good that the investigation into this tragedy found out that senior management changed the flight plan without the crew knowing about this. Unfortunate too the crew didn't catch this, or at least did something to alter the flight plan to prevent this disaster.
nego co (2 months ago)
Now they remove the mountain for safety reason.
Apple629 (3 months ago)
And THAT'S why you DON'T fly into THE FREAKING GOD OF DARKNESS.
Yoma Sane (3 months ago)
Air New Zealand was accused of presenting ''...an orchestrated litany of lies...''? Wouldn't a reasonable, equitable result have been criminal charges being brought against all identifiable responsible parties then? Instead it's yet another example of the application of the principle of ''reverence in the presence of wealth'' by which the 1% NEVER faces consequences for any havoc they cause for those of lower economic strata. It just isn't done, old bean!
Steve Logan (3 months ago)
Forget the sight seeing,get me to my destination safely, and what are those mountain goats doing in the clouds ahead, sad, white on white on white, maintain a safe altitude and tell the commentator to get back to his seat in the cabin, sit down, and shut up
Cristian Margiotta (3 months ago)
And air new zeland is one of the safest.......
Peter Beedle (3 months ago)
I hope someone was jailed for criminal negligence. Also they should never have flown without one pilot having experience in Antarctica.
Gin Weston (3 months ago)
I love the Kiwis, don’t get me wrong, but they messed this up just like they messed Everest up. Too much bravado not enough common sense.
Maggie M (3 months ago)
Pissing about in the Antarctic - and for what?
Werewolf (3 months ago)
That "pull up" alarm always seems to be a lil late. It should say "you're fucked."
Mick Cane (3 months ago)
Another case of blame the pilots.  They were relying on their INS which had an impeccable record of locating the plane with a very high level of precision. They were not told that a waypoint had been altered so that, instead of flying bang up the middle of McMurdo Sound where all previous flights had gone, they were actually flying straight towards an invisible mountain. They were below the cloud base, having let down safely in a break in the clouds (hence the two turns) , and it appeared to them that they were flying in clear air over a level terrain with a clearly visible horizon in the distance. Experienced Antarctic pilots gave evidence at the Royal Commission that the condition known as whiteout gave them the impression that they could see all the way to a clearly defined horizon, when in reality it was an optical illusion and they probably couldn’t see more than a few feet forward though their view of the ground below and the cloud base above was unobstructed. The RC completely exonerated the aircrew.
cambuurrinse (3 months ago)
is it me or does the pull up warning only sounds when its already to late to pull up?
Frederick Kiel (3 months ago)
I absolutely reject the arguments absolving the pilots of blame. Who cares if the coordinates were changed. It's the responsibility of the pilots to know exactly where they're flying. God help me. Are you really telling me that airline pilots have no idea where they're flying, that they blindly follow the computer coordinates? Chinese owned company bus drivers taking passengers for ten bucks between New York and D.C. are smarter then. Very valuable video. I wish that I, a journalist, could interview the pilots for five minutes before getting on any flight to find out if they were mindless drones or alert humans.
GoCapitalsGo (3 months ago)
Actually this weather conditions don't look very good at all. Do they?
Toby E (3 months ago)
Allec, thank you for making these. A needed and somber reality check. I used to be in the US Air Force, and been and will probably always be fascinated by flying. Take care, my friend
jabba0975 jj (3 months ago)
I see blaming the pilots doesn't work as well in NZ as in the U.S.  Not surprised. Most of the rest of the world seems to be smarter than we are.
grabber168 (3 months ago)
It makes no sense to fly a DC-10 on a sightseeing tour... how stupid!!!
Michael Shearer (3 months ago)
Is there a chance.tou could do XL888 crash please?
Shashank Vagal (4 months ago)
Crazy decisions of all concerned. We always face irrationality like this many times with guys with high air.
Antonio Perez (4 months ago)
Doing sightseeing flights over Antarctica, one of the most hostile natural environments on Earth, with a long-range high altitude airliner, is probably one of the most foolhardy things to attempt...that it ended as it did, surely was no surprise to anyone-it was bound to happen, at some moment...
Alan Daniel (4 months ago)
There were a lot of people that didnt want civilians flying over shall we say a sensitive area,that part of the earth is not what you think it is
CocaColaMan2733 inc (4 months ago)
So much white 🗻✈ 🗻 🗻 mountains & 🌨 snow made it so hard to see plus, who goes to Antarctica??? 😫
Grant Christensen (4 months ago)
Idiots get what they deserve.
ChristianAndy (4 months ago)
Does anyone know if there was anyone of significant importance onboard, that could have been targeted to be assassinated by death by airplane crash? Was any of Air New Zealand management or personnel that knew of data coordinates changed the night before, Free Masons or Odd Fellows?
Mio Sandberg (4 months ago)
Face motor campus accomplish now convince excuse salary profound engine.
pond shark (4 months ago)
sight'seeing ?! ... well they got to see a split second close-uP of lovely mt' erebus ... ...
Jonathan Vogel (4 months ago)
hostile enviroment .. go there and understand the risk .. a big risk
6omega2 (4 months ago)
Nothing like the concept of MSEA, you know, to keep you from running into nearby fucking mountains.
Barry Trout (4 months ago)
Allec, you have misinterpreted or missed out much vital information and it is clear you do not understand the details of this accident. The only person who had flown this route previously was indeed Flight Engineer Gordon Brookes. On at least two occasions he expressed his concerns about the situation asking about the whereabouts of Erebus as he could not easily see from the F/E panel in the back of the cockpit. A few minutes later he forcefully stated his concerns: "I don't like this" regarding the continued descent in poor conditions that Collins admitted to shortly later with 'actually, these conditions don't look very good do they?' Secondly, the arrival procedure published and briefed by Air New Zealand called for the NZ901 to overhead the McMurdo TACAN/NDB at not less than FL200 (20,000 ft, well above Erebus) and descend in the southern sector where there is no high ground if it was safe to do so. Despite having no experience on this route, Captain Collins elected to use his discretion to disregard his company's arrival procedure and conduct a visual letdown well to the north when he was unsure of his position and was not under control of McMurdo radar. To the extent that he believed he 'knew' where he was this was based at least in part on the track programmed into his INS (inertial navigation system). Unlike modern systems such as GPS which are updated several times a second, the last definite position fix received by the INS was the Timaru VOR many hours previously. Since then computerised INS gyroscopes had been projecting an estimate of his position. Those who believe the change in the final waypoint caused this crash don't understand aircraft navigation. The INS is for area navigation over vast oceanic distances. It is most certainly not for flying an approach procedure or for terrain avoidance. Thirdly, even though on their assumed track and position they were well within radio range they could not raise McMurdo on the VHF frequency (which operates line of sight) and had to keep using the HF set. The reason of course was because there was a very large lump of rock called Mt Erebus between them and McMurdo. There was nothing wrong with their VHF as they were talking to a military helicopter flight in the area flown by a friend of mine who was the last person to speak to them alive I expect that the combination of  the crew struggling to visually identify landmarks and having to get help from the commentator, descending to 1,500 feet when there's a lot of cloud around, the rather odd situation with the VHF, all contributed to F/E Brookes growing unease as expressed on the cockpit voice recorder. If Mr Justice Mahon was right about Collin's relying on the INS to avoid terrain then this indicates profound negligence that cost 257 people their lives. Thankfully they felt nothing.
dazhibernian (4 months ago)
"Attention ladies & gentlemen, im the pilot of the plane, AND THIS, IS, JACKASS!".
Alex Moreno (1 month ago)
dazhibernian hi I’m Johnny Knoxville, and this is Mt Erebus!
jony joe (2 months ago)
is inappropriate for a somber video.
Allec Joshua Ibay (4 months ago)
dazhibernian I don't think this is appropriate
Michael Shearer (4 months ago)
Sir Edmund Hillary was meant to have been on this flight as the commentator.
stephen green (4 months ago)
so air traffic control watched as the plane crashed into Mt Erebus? ....
Melvyn Tiong (4 months ago)
Oh an Dc-10
BassGirlSusan (4 months ago)
Mr Mulgrew (passenger) was an In-Law of mine, still remember that day like yesterday, what a shock.
CG (4 months ago)
Total bullshit. Change or no change, you can blindfold the pilots and if they can instrument fly, they are dead because of it. News flash, it’s called a Map. Imagine that, a map. The plane tells you where you are and if you don’t there’s a fucking volcano you’re a moron
madmoiselle007 (4 months ago)
So sad 😥
g00gle minus (4 months ago)
Who the hell wants to sight-see from a jet airliner anyways? It's flying to high and too fast to make out much detail. Plus, there's not much to see over Antarctica. Snow, ice, snow, snow, snow. snow, ice, snow, snow, ice, penguins, ice, snow and ice. Who are these people that are paying to do this and have they been cleared by a mental health professional?
VegasGirl35 (4 months ago)
Right? What if you're in the middle bank of seats on that DC-10. What the hell are you going to see? Everyone on either side of you leaning over and blocking your view of the window?
wallywadd (4 months ago)
Good that they found the true cause of the crash and who to blame. As pilots were never told of changes or warned of whiteout conditions.
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Kendrah Whyte (4 months ago)
With all due respect, wouldn't it be easier to look-up Antarctica in National Geographic Magazine?
millieo (4 months ago)
Why did they put two pilots with no previous experience flying to Antarctica on the same flight?
Sincopare (5 months ago)
My condolences to the friends and family of the lost.
Armando Silvier (5 months ago)
".... public outcry led to the establishment of a Royal Commission of Enquiry" by those whose principal aim would be, as the illegitimate thieves of 1/3 of the world's land resources, to whitewash and hide the truth -- that this (and any other aircraft or ship attempting to cross Antarctica or even to go near it without approved military surveillance tracking) aircraft was sent to its death on purpose.
pec104 (3 months ago)
You been on the skunk Armando?
Sailor Man (3 months ago)
Lol, you probably think the earth is flat too.
Armando Silvier (5 months ago)
".... The US Navy suggests that they take advantage of the Air Surveillance Radar..." Anyone wonder why the US Navy has a radar parked out there for "surveillance"? It's not US Navy land and they should stay the fuck away from places they have no business sticking their shit-covered noses in.
pec104 (3 months ago)
Are you too much of a fucking stupid cunt to know that lots of countries own sectors of Antarctica? Go kill yourself.
rfn944 (5 months ago)
Sad so many died. Pilots didn't know where they were. With all that experience in the cockpit, it should never have happened.
OÄKTA DOPBOK (5 months ago)
Passengers never knew what hit them.
Loco Joe (5 months ago)
Now I see NOBODY can make flights to Antartica? Mmmm, wonder what’s up with that?
Sailor Man (3 months ago)
Loco, you really should do better research before posting ignorant comments on youtube. Of course there are still sightseeing flights to Antarctica. http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
halmc (5 months ago)
I'm an aging Cessna ace, with stale experience.  But I'll be damn'd if I'd fly anything in that part of the world relying in any way whatsoever on what I could see out the windshield.  In addition, a DC-10, or any other aircraft of that size doesn't seem to me like a wise platform for farting around as a sight seeing platform.  Finally, fine to blame the ground folk, but to my mind the folks with rudder pedals under their feet are in charge -- such that in the absence of mechanical failure of the aircraft it self, they are ultimately responsible for where the airplane flies -- and where it stops.
desiguy55 (5 months ago)
air tour on antarctica? see snow, and more snow, and even more snow.
masterbuilderjkl (5 months ago)
dc-10=death chamber 10 md-11=more death 11
Jared Drogose (5 months ago)
I'm not a pilot, but if that where me, I'd decline the suggestion. Safety wins everytime.
Tango Bango (5 months ago)
Luv these videos. There are so well done.
macpower72 (5 months ago)
Dumb ass pilot
Hooperman (5 months ago)
Have the poster advertising the sightseeing with that ill fated date on it :/
Sibte Kazmi (5 months ago)
AA
Sibte Kazmi (5 months ago)
what hapind to the peppol
Thomas Rudder (5 months ago)
can you do the camel toe flight with podesta and clinton?
Tae Kang-Stewart (5 months ago)
My grandfather was in that crash :(
JURGEN GJIDIA (6 months ago)
O sure blacken the entire screen and act like a big explosion now I would really like to see the crash impact as it hits like flight 191 or flight 1549
LINDA (6 months ago)
Hmmmm.....were the pilots intentionally not informed of these corrections made to the coordinates to keep them for some reason, from flying to/seeing McMurdo and/or Ross Is. as well????  Too much is hiding from us down there.  I hope we will all learn the real truths of what is going on down there sooner than later.
Kevin Edwards (6 months ago)
I remember that day well. It was a horrible day. The passenger's names being read out over the radio in Auckland. Actually I was going to make the trip myself. This may well have been the flight that I took?...I changed my mind. Thanks for the video. Btw..today I was invited to make the trip again. This is why I looked up & found this clip. They showed Mt Erebus on the tour promo's of Qantas & Accor & my mind went back to that day immediately.
K. Chris Caldwell (6 months ago)
_"The crew input the coordinates into the plane's computer before they departed at __7:21__ am from Auckland International Airport. Unknown to them, the coordinates had been modified earlier that morning to correct the error introduced previously and undetected until then. The crew evidently did not check the destination waypoint against a topographical map (as did Captain Simpson on the flight of 14 November) or they would have noticed the change."_ What you get when you let HAL do the flying.
Torbjørn Espedal (6 months ago)
It is not the hole story you guys are in to here: listen to all the lies in several hearings in the following year. If you put all info together you will find that there is some thing that is well cowered in this story. Why would Collins with more than 11 000 hours and his mate passing 7 000 hours having trouble descending in an area with radar and no traffic? 11 000 hours and not handling a miscalculated position, something they do hundreds of times? 11 000 hours 257 on board, you dont dive into nothing? With the st.Erebus top at 12 448 ft height above sea level? (3 794 m) Using all statistic material, and correct all theories and false statements in the hearing-shows, and you will find that pilots like Collins do not do that. Not even in a million to one- time. Not this, and together with other experience colleagues. Never. What was the speed of that aircraft at Impact? How long did it take from the system warm a pull up at 500 feet and until impact? No, nothing adds up. Chippendale added it together years later and knew something did not add up. He never managed to complete that, he was run down by a car at a sidewalk, unlucky he. I am not a conspiring-nut, never will be, we did land on the moon and there is no hidden true regarding twin towers, and so on. But when you listen to all the storys in the hearings i NZ you will at the end realize that something is being covered up. I know, but it is your turn to find all the interviews at the court and hearings and start to take notes. It will not add up, I promise you that. Good luck!