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Flying VFR into IMC - a top KILLER of pilots - My close call!

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POV - FLYING - Watch in HD! This is by far the hardest flying video I've had to make. It was a very difficult story to tell about a pivotal flight from my more than 15 years of VFR flying experience. Luckily I had 2 GoPros along for the ride. I tried to tell the story in a thorough yet engaging way; thus, it was the most work I've put into editing one of these; (~20 hours!) so I hope you enjoy it! I am sharing so that others can learn from my close call, and avoid falling into the trap of "get-home-itis". How did a safe and conscientious pilot such as myself get into this situation? This "should have" been a routine flight, but the lesson here is that there is no such thing as a "routine flight". Many variables contributed to the chain of events that lead to this flight going the way it did. I try to explore them all and share the lessons I learned in doing so. Thankfully, the outcome was good. This flight inspired me to finally start IFR training which I'd been considering doing for years. I still plan to fly privately for fun, and don't intend to do much "actual" IFR flying... (I'll do my best to maintain IFR currency and practice, but I won't be shooting approaches to minimums on a regular basis). DISCLAIMER: I am a "weekend warrior" private pilot, I fly for fun with no intentions of going commercial. I have had my PPL for over 15 years, but still consider each flight a learning experience - I generally take detailed notes after each flight to remind myself what went well or what I could do to improve.... Having the GoPro cameras to record flights like this is invaluable. I find these self analysis videos very helpful in my constant quest to improve, and am happy to share.Feed back is invited; however, please keep it positive
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therealmccoy2004 (24 days ago)
I'm here because of kobe.. I want closure therefore I wanna make sense of this. Thanks for the info.
Steve Houston (4 days ago)
Skyler Felix An Aircraft is IFR equipped not certified the Pilot is Certified so the article is BS. If the Aircraft was equipped for IFR and the Pilot was IFR CERTIFIED it was able to fly in those conditions
Skyler Felix (4 days ago)
Great article on FB. Now it’s been reported that the helicopter company was not legally allowed to fly IFR but the pilot was IFR certified.
Steve Houston (8 days ago)
@LIVEFOR INFLUENCE Simple it was his time to go, we all have that date when time is up.
jmorrisey79 (8 days ago)
@Blaise Semenya - I kinda understand your point of view, but humans make mistakes. The pilot didn't intend to get into the position he did. Just as the pilot that made this video. Get-there-itis.
Peanut (9 days ago)
FlightChops The pilot prolly had more instrument flying hours than you had VFR, you really think he got disoriented.
Eli Broome (8 minutes ago)
You just made this guy getting his imc. I have said ill never need it. UNTIL this video. Thank You for posting.
Supreme Unicorn (3 hours ago)
Only watching this now, after i've decided to just flight for fun and after Kobe incident..... Thank you so much for this invaluable experience...Many don't make it below those 3MS vis
Phenomenal Woman (8 hours ago)
Buy why would Kobe’s pilot risk so many lives? It was so ridiculously reckless.
Joel Gehrke (1 day ago)
I'm so glad you made it. Waiting costs a little time, or a little money. Don't do that again.
Billy McCullers (2 days ago)
Thanks for the humble honest and self-reflective account of your experience, I too had an experience such as this one under similar gotta get there ideas, I learned more in 15mins than in a hundred hours. Like you, the experience prompted me to pursue the IR and brought me more in tune with my thought processes. Wish you the best in your ever continuous journey of learning!
Arctic Wanderer (2 days ago)
Get-home-itis! That is what killed Kobe and the rest.
whataname01 (4 days ago)
Every pilot has this in their mind "Crash and Burn" at one time or another
neal mcconochie (4 days ago)
Thanks for sharing. Get theres ares an affliction when under pressure. Congrats on your ifr All the best neal kpgd
Ellis Andrews (5 days ago)
Thanks for this. I do hope other pilots head your advice re get there Itis. Weather is a killer and if you get into severe turbulence in a light aircraft even if you are fully IFR rated and competent your instruments are all over the place. If this ever happens to someone and they survive they never ever want to get into that situation again. Happy safe flying and never take a chance on the weather as mother nature can be cruel.
Zdiddy7 (5 days ago)
I dont have these problems, I fly rocket cars...... with my mind!!!
Steve Stelly (5 days ago)
now do Kobes flight
fly bobbie (6 days ago)
Looks like the turn coordinator motor is running slow. It's twitchy.
Riley von Bevern (6 days ago)
honestly I only would if I have an instrument licence and the experience. It is better to be on the ground wishing you were in the sky than up in the sky wishing you were on the ground
Anthony Nderu (6 days ago)
Good Work!
David Rowe (6 days ago)
Reviving a few memories, once on ferry flight from Exeter in Devon UK in C 150 followed by Beagle Pup, briefing was good for some 3 hours + only 50 min flight to Bodmin Cornwall but loaded full fuel. Dartmoor direct would be full imc so followed coast vfr but weather clamped rapidly, clamped also behind at Exeter, descended to 500ft, below radio reception now for Plymouth & Exeter. Calling following Beagle, made plan to visually follow coast to Plymouth port, if too bad head out across channel to France as vis to south looked ok loads of fuel fortunately.  Made VHF contact with Plymouth when clear of high ground, they were reporting 600ft vis 800m, despite constant QDM's opted for full visual nav followinf familiar highway & try one shot approach if no go advised it would be France. Pulled Beagle in tight to my rear & advised I'd land mid runway & him on the numbers, forgotten how long the runway was but pretty short, I rolled out right to very end. Conclusion successful but I hated the 150 on finals, downwind tight in to final, zero vis with that wing blocking view of runway...lessons to be learned.. Thanks for the vid.
Mark Hatch (7 days ago)
A fantastic vid and synopsis of WHAT TO DO when things..WX, starts to deteriorate. Well done!
Sandra G (7 days ago)
Thank you for sharing!
jmorrisey79 (8 days ago)
FlightChops - Nice job keeping it together and staying focused. Glad you guys made it home safe.
Snipers Corner (8 days ago)
Good choice to make the video for less experienced pilots. And a reminder for us older pilots. Been flying since 1972.
Harvey F. (8 days ago)
Just watched this since I'm learning about weather in my program. Crazy what this industry is, I'm in.
SuperTrader Mikey (9 days ago)
I want to get my license and videos like this only are thankfully sobering of the level of responsibility it takes to stay alive.
Lamont Elliott (9 days ago)
Great job of explaining what happened on that day. You gave very detailed information and the story went along smooth and clear. I could visualize and understand everything you explained. Your gonna be a great pilot. 👍🏽 Great video
videoclipits (9 days ago)
I got too hammered at the bar one foggy night. Ended up staggering home in imc and spiraled into a ditch beside the road. Woke up in the morning totally disoriented and ill, but lucky to be alive.
Tiny Dancer (10 days ago)
This video is 6 yrs old. Amazing how so many of us are here for the same reason now.
Andy Craig (10 days ago)
Is this what makes people push onward?... You're 75% there and it's getting bad but you are too scared to turn around because "what if the From airport has turned even worse than the Destination airport during that extra time aloft?"
Jack T (10 days ago)
Looks like this thread picked up after Kobie. In case this help anyone. - Before going for my private pilot license, I was approached by a corporation who wanted me to buy the maintenance share in a Skyhawk, since I was a mechanic. They started out paying me 2 hours a month wet, which turned into 6 hours a month wet because I was living at the airport because of all of the work it needed. However, I had to use the hours every month or lose them. - After I got my license, I didn't use the airplane to just fly, I used it for transportation and I seldom went the same place twice. Using VFR charts to navigate with was just too much work and I didn't know where I was half the time. With IFR charts, I always knew where I was, how high I had to fly, and learned the tricks for good airway-to-airway turns. Going into an unfamiliar airport VFR was a stress test. With IFR, you know you are lined up on the correct runway for the correct airport before you spot it, you know you have obstacle clearance in your descent, and it makes flying a glide slope and non-precision procedures, a habit. It was just plain easier. I'd just tell them I wanted to practice the approach. I got my first 270 hours this way in that Skyhawk and Mooney Mk 20A. - I was accepted into the academy and after that went to flight school. I became fixed wing and rotary wing rated. The part of rotary wing transition for me that I was never that good at was navigating with terrain maps. One time, I was the only one who knew where we were. The other 99 times I was the only one who didn't. When I would get vectored around under hood, IPs would ask me if I knew where I was. I would tell them exactly and they would shake their head because I always knew. Needles talk to me even without a glass cockpit and GPS. Draws in terrain, forks in roads, and bends in rivers are a dime a dozen. - From what I've seen so far, Kobie's pilot was following a road until he turned into the high terrain instead of away from it. After that, nothing makes sense. If the weather is crappy, there is no better place to be than in a rotary wing. If the visibility is poor, you can fly pretty slow, retrace your route, or land near the road and wait it out. The climbing turn in the wrong direction to get on top theory doesn't make sense because it would take a real healthy S-76 to achieve the speed they are reporting in level flight, and it's nowhere near best rate or angle. I say he was in a dive. I don't understand why he didn't file IFR in the first place. I can't fathom of an S-76 not well equipped or a competent IFR pilot having the opportunity to fly one. With rotary wing, you can cut your destination visibility minimums in half. I can only guess that it had something to do with the destination not being equipped because scud running is way too much work, and he must have known the route because they tend to string power lines with long spans between high points that cable cutters cannot cut. - VFR on top. Don't fly VFR on top of an overcast with single nav or radios you don't know and trust and you need to be real sure there is plenty of clear sky where you are going. - Two little sayings I remembered from my private pilot IP were, "If you find yourself doing a lot of rationalization, that usually occurs when you already know the answer, but you don't like it, so you start thinking in terms of best-case scenarios." The other was one that everyone knows, "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground." These were playing in my head one time when I was listed to be a poll bearer in my grandpa's funeral. I'm listed, but was 200 miles short because weather was pushing me down south of Muncie, and it was turning into scud running and wishful thinking. I landed at Muncie, which turned out to be a good move because Fort Wayne, on the northern edge of the system that I was hoping to beat, went below IFR minimums, let alone VFR, 15 minutes before I would have arrived. Soon we couldn't see the tower that was 100 yards away. Skirting east would have forced me to stop for fuel. The upside is I was stranded with plenty of guys to commiserate with and learned from those more experienced than I, instead of freezing at some Podunk airport. - If you are starting out, see if navigating IFR is easier for you like it was for me. For me, transitioning from instruments to visual is more destabilizing than from visual to instruments. When breaking out and it's half and half, and I have to keep real-time track of two realities, with one that is iffy, and everything is critical because I am heading toward the ground and not away from it. Transferring to instruments is a relief for me. I'm down to one reality at a known safe route and altitude. I have a hunch that my peripheral vision has me on instruments anyway. If this works for you, it will be easier and cheaper to get your IFR rating. Even in VFR weather, it's nice to just be able to punch through and fly on top, knowing you can let down through it at your destination.
Hollywood N (10 days ago)
As a CDL driver hauling 80,000 lbs. in less than fair road, wind and traffic conditions, this video was very understandable. Well done video and ending the video, and of course the actual flying. You read the opposing, rapidly changing conditions, and applied planning from those conditions. Well done. To most watching, this flight might seem simple, but to anyone who is certified and trained to travel in these conditions, we learn real quick, planning a trip may include a plan to not go. Boating is the same as flying. Quick moving fog and running with strictly radar can happen in seconds. Any day you get back to the dock is a good day boating. Any day back on the runway landing, is a good day flying. Always learning. Safety first, fun second. Thank you for posting this video.
Hootville (11 days ago)
Very honest - impressive.
Joan Holliman (11 days ago)
I used to think of JFK, JR and VFR, now I'll add Kobe to that thought...both so sad...
FlightChops (11 days ago)
Unfortunately, Yes; that is most likely going to be what the investigation will determine about the Kobe crash as well.
Mitchell Kasdin (11 days ago)
To the commenter who thought the aircraft was inverted always trust your instruments -six pack. Hang a medallion or a necklace from the visor or ceiling. If you hit clouds and the medallion is no longer hanging it’s either on the floor or your flying upside down? An instrument rating is like a life insurance policy; it’s good to know when you need it!
FlightChops (11 days ago)
I’m not sure if you’re saying the “hang a medallion trick” is a good idea or not, but to clarify, it is possible to achieve 1G toward the floor in the airplane while inverted in relation to the earth. There is a famous pilot named Bob Hoover that does a demo pouring iced tea while doing a 1G roll and doesn’t spill a drop. This is why you can’t trust what your inner ear “thinks” is happening. In other words, the “hang a medallion trick” does not work. You must trust your instruments to know how the airplane is oriented in relation to the earth.
Devon phillipps (11 days ago)
Does he have eye tracker on his normal flight sulstor vids
mbrownie22 (11 days ago)
Appreciate your humility, definitely a learning experience that may save lives.
Edforce One (12 days ago)
Getting an instrument rating , and keeping current , is a very wise decision. It’s great that you shared this video , so others can learn from it. Well done.
Ken James Jr (12 days ago)
Wow!
David Block (12 days ago)
Thanks for sharing
james stafford (12 days ago)
Great job and cool heads prevail
deeleecharm (12 days ago)
This is what Kobe Bryant. Pilot should have been following as a gentleman here. Never fly in foggy weather or bad conditions, especially with a helicopter as it explains here. This was the protocol that should have been done when Kobe Bryant was on the helicopter amongst the eight other people. Following protocols following the right path and taking action the minute you hit the pause turn back to where you came from. It's just such a very influential video on pilots and helicopters and conditions and weather this was very educational
Megan Cox (13 days ago)
Wow this was a great video! I’m not a pilot but I still learnt enough that I won’t be choosing to fly on a cloudy day 🙈. This is a great education for young pilots everywhere (I’m in Oz). I wish more pilots were as interested in helping out others safety by uploading videos as you are. Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏
Phil McCrevice (13 days ago)
I don't understand how you go inverted and crash into the ground. Doesn't the artificial horizon and the altimeter keep you somewhat oriented?
Edgy00 (13 days ago)
Many thanks for sharing. Many VMC pilots bite off more than they can chew and only the NTSB sorts it out later from the mess. Having been an USAF aircrew member (instructor navigator) I can reflect upon the distinct advantages we had with excellent equipment in depth and with a conservative approach to all sorties. I’ve been in many approaches in snow squalls and benefited greatly by the fact that we could easily go back up out of the clouds and execute a complete do-over. Most general aviation aircraft simply do not carry enough sophisticated equipment to keep them out of trouble nor carry enough fuel to broaden your alternate airport choices. A very big factor here is the experience in the cockpit. Sadly, the reason so many accidents occur when b general aviation is because it’s expensive to maintain good proficiency and experience the variety of Wx conditions that can eat your lunch. Military and commercial flying is an entirely different animal. Even military flying is substantially safer than commercial because we simply never have to consider cost of operations as a variable. Excusing military combat operations, no mission is so critical that we have to push the envelope and compromise safety. If we chose to execute another missed approach due to wind or visibility issues, we don’t ever suffer the consequences from some bean-counter for using another $5,000 in fuel. We just do it. Even commercial aviation is forced to factor that into their daily ops. Lastly, like in the Kobe Bryant accident, the pilot was probably under pressure to fly a VIP and get him or her to their destination no matter what. There are times when you have to make the call. This is not working. We need to land (in the Bryant case) and go vis surface transport. For commercial aviation, it’s okay to land at an alternate sometimes if your destination airport is outside your minimums. But, how often do you EVER divert during a commercial flight? Probably hardly ever. There is much pressure to stay the course. You are helping a lot of general aviation guys out there with good honest disclosure of how easy it is to get into a bad situation.
Bill's Studio (13 days ago)
I think all private pilots should get instrument rated if they can afford it.
Blueskygal (13 days ago)
My dad was a private pilot well aware of this type of dangerous condition. Someone he knew disappeared into it and never was seen again. I also asked him about JFK Jr accident. Good on you for making it.
Chris Watson (13 days ago)
Great video! Could you recommend any videos similar to this documenting the dangers of flight?
jonathan bennett (14 days ago)
Low viz conditions suck. Here is my apples to chicken comparison. I run boats for a living. We get crappy white out fog and don't have a choice but to use our instruments. Same idea with the chart plotters Garmin is the best on the market. I have been doing if for 23 years nope not ships just boats 36-65ft. Here is the scary part the other guys that don't know what they are doing or have zero electronics. I have my radar on watching it on clear days along with compass plotter back up plotter and fog or low viz headings to my next mark. We don't have ATC telling anyone where to go but we also don't have the option to go up or down (god forbid we go down lol) When the fleet is out we talk to each other and watch the other boats that clearly have no idea what they are doing. Running WOT with 100ft viz. If you see a bird on the water you about crap your pants thinking the radar has failed you. The guys without experience will have let say just a plotter with track lines. They will run normal cruising speed vs slowing down and try to follow that track line they laid out. Problem is unless you have radar overlay or radar period there is no telling what is on that track line. There could be 50 boats on that once clear track line. I have heard pilots say they had a harder time on the water in pea soup vs flying because of ATC. Good video hopefully it pushes someone to learn a little bit more about how to safely navigate when the weather turns.
My high kill games (14 days ago)
live in buffalo and the lake effect snow is no joke. sunshine one minute blizzard like conditions the next. and it can often be much worse then forecasted. nice job keeping your cool glad it worked out for you both.
Jamie Cutter (14 days ago)
why don't the airports get some blame for not having their air traffic in order and causing this chopper to circle and circle....hell, they might as well drove instead of using a chopper if these airports are so congested...makes no sense to me.
Chris R (14 days ago)
Great insight into the situation Kobe's pilot got into.
will rondeau (14 days ago)
I am a 50+ year professional aviator, and now i lecture on General Aviation Safety of Flight. This is a Great Learning and Training video. These two pilots did everything a pilot can do to prepare for a flight. The checked the weather hourly and forecasts, for departure, destination and en-route airports. Notams and pireps for icing. They did not have an Instrument licenses which would probably, would not have changed this flight. The first mistake they made was "Scud Running", many pilots have made this error to a bad outcome. The learning point is watching the flight instruments in the video. As the pilot is talking and getting nervous about the weather, his altitude control is not good and he is rolling the aircraft left and right, very typical when a person gets nervous. As he is approaching the airport he says that is the airport was more than 6 miles away he would have turned back? I dont think he would have, he had already broken his personal minimums; but continued on. This is how we learn and some of us just run out of Luck, which these guys did not!
Luis Salazar (14 days ago)
I have a question for the helicopter pilot’s , it’s posible to land any place if you can’t see 2 miles ahead of y’all because if is so why not stop and wait to it get clear. Just a thought . I drive a semi and many times I go through ice snow and foggy and I stop and wait. Safety first. 😎🇺🇸
Terry Watson (14 days ago)
Really appreciate the dash cam. This video is educational to anyone curious about out-of-window visibility and the gauges on the dash. Considering how fast the weather can get crappy here in the PNW, learning IMC skills is a must. And then trusting your gauges too, another conversation worth having. Hats off to you for a great landing after dealing with 2M visibility.
Sand man (15 days ago)
Great job bro, glad u both landed safely. Be careful out there
Sequoia Blackwood (15 days ago)
This video is super relevant with Kobe. The pressure to get there and make up time as it was a routine 15 minute flight that they had done countless times in day and night. These seem like similar conditions and even worse for Kobe’s trip. Findings released today indicate that there was no catastrophic engine failure, leading it to most likely be the conditions experienced in the video.
HIGH SECURITY AGENT (15 days ago)
Thank you. Explain how you would have delt with low terrain, hills, mountains, trees, etc, in the foggy, snowy weather. What do you do in poor visibility? Please respond.
SimGamer (15 days ago)
This looks very realistic! The graphics are amazing.
Dave's Place (14 days ago)
Thankyou for the great video. I'm only half a pilot as I have only had about 34 hours of flight time. I sent out to earn my PPL around 2010 but then life got in the way. I'll be 62 this year but I never give up the idea of earning my PPL and instrument. I've had plenty of time on a flight training device that I have at home. I've also done quite a bit of instrument time at home using SIDS, STARS and Enroute charts I've also done some time with Foreflight. Which is a really great app.. I flew with a friend of mine one time who regularly flies a King Air 200 and got a little taste of the early stages of spatial disorientation. It's amazing how things change when you have no references on the ground. Personally, I would have done a 180 and waited it out. I can imagine with your experience that it was a lot easier to rationalize. I've read so many stories of pilots who flew VFR into IMC and often the results were fatal. Even though I haven't earned my PPL I've been a long time member of AOPA. They have some great real pilot stories. I live in Vermilion, Ohio which is on the other side of Lake Erie to the west. Thanks again. I really enjoyed. Check out this video from Accident Case Study. https://youtu.be/bLmzy8ZPgtc We have to learn from the mistakes of others. We can't possibly live long enough to make them all ourselves.
Ainstain K (15 days ago)
Great video! Glad you guys made it safely on the ground. IFR is always a good idea to have, even just to practice it, it could save you one day! On several of my flights I ran into clouds where I had to rely on my IFR training, but luckily the cloud cover was not large so it only lasted for about 30 seconds.
Mistina Branham (15 days ago)
This was a awesome video...I feel like I learned a lot & I appreciate it. The details were easy to take in cause u explained your experience well & in basic terms so us average on land dwellers, lol, can understand as well. Thx so much for sharing...gave me a different outlook on what y'all have deal with when it comes to bad visibility cause of weather. Awesome!
Nick Coller (15 days ago)
In the Aviation business the PRINCIPLES are the most important thing and a good pilot will never go against them. These Principles have been written with the blood of those who didn't follow them...and the History of Aviation is more than 100 years old.
bashful228 (16 days ago)
Thanks for the fascinating video. I’m not a pilot, or a passenger of light aircraft, but loved the analysis and emotional honesty. What do you think of sims for learning instrument flight skills?
Guinness (16 days ago)
This is still relevant today. Pity more people didn't take note
henry bogle (16 days ago)
This is what killed JFK Jr.
dave kahn (16 days ago)
I would never understand how a pilot allows himself to fly a plane without the ability to fly and land it during IMC. the chance of inadvertently entering into IMC is too great to not have this ability in your inventory. pilots can learn IFR rules online if they really wanted to and practice it in-home computer simulator
chadj77 (16 days ago)
Video is at 1.5M views now. Anybody know how many views this had 2 weeks ago? Rip Kobe, daughter and the rest of the people onboard, sounds like they were so close they were all practically family. This is ❤️ breaking. This video gave me anxiety just because it was like your were going blind and my fear of heights doesn't help. I stand up and I'm scared...
FlightChops (16 days ago)
Yeah, I’m actually scared of heights too. Flying is different - you’re in control. Anyway - this one had done ok before this tragedy - the video was already at 1.3M
Omar Bonilla (16 days ago)
VFR into IMC it is, then. Southern California is perpetually sunny, so even though Ara was instrument rated he really didn't have the necessary practice. Other pilots that have flown Kobe have said that he wasn't a pushy passenger. I'll be waiting for the final report along with everybody else, and I'm saddened at the loss of all nine lives, but while I wait for official information I'm in the stage of grief where I'm irrationally livid at Ara for his decision-making. The fog was awful all over the Southland that morning. Even my mom texted me that morning, before the crash, amazed at how foggy it was. Fog isn't totally unheard of there, so I know it was especially bad for her to make a point of telling me. I couldn't imagine pressing on in those conditions.
OneAndDone (16 days ago)
I'm a private pilot with about 450 hours. I passed my instrument written test, and have about 30 hours of instrument training. For me, the difference between flying VFR vis a vis the control of the airplane vs IFR , is like the difference between throwing a bullet and firing a bullet. But having JUST IFR training, never mind the rating, upped my skills by orders of magnitudes. Well worth it.
paragliderpete (16 days ago)
06C
Mary (16 days ago)
Thank you for this video.. I'm glad you made it back. Please be safe ☺
Martha Bakry (16 days ago)
I’m so grateful you guys made it home safe.
Finally it's Ed (17 days ago)
I know this channel discussed this pilot's VFR encounter into IMC. I think most of us have teetered into this situation to some degree. I commend him for putting this out there so someone may learn from this. Since the topic has meandered into the sad loss of the numerous lives in the Kobe Bryant crash, I may possibly be misunderstanding something with regard to that. Kobe's pilot requested SVFR moments before the crash then descended to the ground at almost 2000 FPM. It just seemed odd to me for an instrument rated pilot to request a visual in heavy soup. Could this have been spatial disorientation and he was trying to obtain a visual reference from the ground as he circled? Why else request SVFR and why else would the rate of descent be so high?
Bud Carr (17 days ago)
Live and learn. Bet your minimums and weather assumptions changed following that one.
Stillness Within (17 days ago)
My Gram always used to say 'err on the side of caution'. Glad you're okay. (Pilot talk is almost like another language...very cool.)
tak1ek9la (17 days ago)
One time I was in Thousand Oaks with my mother in-law I was about to leave right when the rain came down hard her fiancé told me don’t drive that high way gets ugly you are safer to wait till it stops so as we did waited. When we’re on our way home a power wire was across the high way and and a big as tree fell over to the 3 lanes. Is bad as it is in a car imagine going thru there in fog hell no I wouldn’t do it with a helicopter. That pilot should have landed in a parking lot literally 15min away for destination las Vírgenes road is not far. Pilot could have waited till it’s clear to take off after gone to the school and pick up koby and the rest everyone would have still been alive but he took his own judgement got disoriented and crashed. If there was someone there to tell him land or go back chances are he would have done it.
Robert Lee (17 days ago)
Ever since Kobe I have become obsessed with everything aviation smh
kelly green (17 days ago)
that was good ♡
Patricia (17 days ago)
Excellent video...
Joenel Saracho (17 days ago)
We miss you kobe
djm7706 (17 days ago)
Big pat on the back to you for posting and going through everything in detail. It's very helpful. You'll surely help other pilots (like me) think more clearly and make better decisions. I know most pilots would never have shared. I truly appreciate.
Fly High (17 days ago)
As an Airline pilot I can only say: Well done. Your SA & DM were excellent despite a difficult situation. Having a plan B, C & D is crucial. However, the best effort you did is a thorough reflection & review of the situation you were in (debrief) to not let this happen again. 👍🏻
Monica R (17 days ago)
Lesson learned from this vid: Whether it's flying a plane or doing anything in life, never go against your gut. We all have personal boundaries and standards and that one time we drop our guard and go against it, we always get screwed.
Richard Bernsee (17 days ago)
Nice and real. Thanks for sharing the honest vibe and feeling of how it really is up there in those conditions.
exposeemasap (17 days ago)
Why can’t you fly in to the clouds?
dzb (17 days ago)
Good share!
plainnsimple78 (17 days ago)
Seriously, is this normal? I mean, its a freakin' helicopter. Do they really hover around and around for that amount of time in the air, just waiting for air traffic control to instruct them when its safe to land? It is a small aircraft that can just land straight down onto a heli pad. It is not an airplane where it is coming so fast, needs a long landing strip to land and slow down the plane. Something is wrong, very fishy and wrong. Also, who the heck just randomly is pointing a camera at a helicopter above? Who was this person who said, let me go outside and just record this chopper flying above? When was the last time anyone of us go outside to record a random plane or chopper flying by? Makes no sense to me. A lot of shit is weird. Kobe had been using this chopper for so many years, this was his way of commuting. Does anyone know if he has a heli pad at the Mamba Academy? That is exactly where they were headed. You'd think Kobe would have built a heli pad at the academy if that is his main means of transportation. Forget all these numbers and science, lets apply some COMMON SENSE to this entire scenario. It still does not make any sense to me at all. If the pilot lost visual, why wouldnt he just descend very slowly and careful. Even if he would have hit something, it would have been minimal and could have been corrected. This pilot apparently is believed to be experienced and a great pilot. Does not make sense why he would be going at such speeds and makes a quick 180 degree turn without him knowing where he is going. Nothing adds up. Accident? Pilot error? I don't know man. Some people are sick in the mind. No black box, no cockpit box, we will never know what the heck happened in the helicopter during the last moments. No matter how much these experts tell us, we will not have closure.
Brent Spurrell (17 days ago)
Been there and get the extreme relief you feel upon that gentle bump as your gear touches down in this type of wx conditions.
Samy Bengadolpo (17 days ago)
Great video. There is another excellent lesson to be learned from following scary VFR -> IMC situation in https://youtu.be/aERbWV9tJBI?list=WL where a PPL with a VFR rating gets himself into trouble.
Radu O (17 days ago)
Why are you not using the glide scope?
Michael McKenzie (18 days ago)
Same old lack of judgment. Unbelievable.
Dan McLaughlin (18 days ago)
You were lucky that day. Great video.
The Light Of The Body Is Pineal (18 days ago)
Thankyou. This is helpful!
Gregarious Solitudinist (18 days ago)
was on a charter fishing boat once, twelve miles out in the Atlantic. thirteen foot seas developed. That desire to be on terra firma does settle in on you.
rackum44 (18 days ago)
I'm just really glad that everything worked out for you
Rodnye Theoc (18 days ago)
Because of the unfortunate death of Kobe I've been interested in learning more about what happened. RIP 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Yvonne Sampson-Austin (14 days ago)
Same here!
Jershaun Jamison (17 days ago)
Me too brother
reliable145 (18 days ago)
I’m so glad you made it home pilot!!
GREENMIRROR555 (18 days ago)
I found you from the Kobe crash as well. I think there are some major similarities and the discussion maybe should move away from taws to what procedures need to be used as VFR degrades to when the moment VFR turns to IFR. You highlight many important parts with this youtube. I think a huge part people are missing in the Kobe flight is the 15 minute delay and hover along with the Northern avoidance of airspace and altitude choice. The Easy flight vs. friends car/being stranded was very similar to high dollar passenger along with parents and children trying to be on time for event. Pilot found the 101 and then became blind fast...flying low to VFR the 101/restricted airspace above and behind...bailing on the 101 VFR too late...climb early and use the radio.
Andrew Nelson (18 days ago)
Damn good job man, that looks scary. I’m working on getting my certificate right now, will definitely get some instrument training
Beautiful Bronze (18 days ago)
You talk about poor audio but I can hear you perfectly!!! I’m happy you both landed safely...🙌🏾Thx for the upload
frederic PINAN (18 days ago)
Thank you for sharing... Always a good remember to have in a corner of your head. Thanks!
FSAUDIOGUY (18 days ago)
Well all things considered...you did not panic and got home safe. Great job pilot!
Bonnie55317 (18 days ago)
Same here. I just want some kind of closure as to the Kobe Bryant tragedy. Seeing what you went thru in real time, really helps alot in understanding what may have likely happened in Kobes doomed flight ? I liken this scenario to The movie "The Perfect storm" where a rogue wave and a conversion of multiple weather events happened simultaneously to produce the sad ending. . Weather and nature, certainly have the upper hand always. , and they will have the last say in all scenarios. . IMHO, >> Respecting nature, weather and unintended events of all kinds is certainly something that needs to be acknowledeged and factored in..