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The Economics That Made Boeing Build the 737 Max

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Wendover Productions (1 month ago)
Hey all,  I hope you find this video interesting. It is meant to provide an overview of what led to Boeing creating the 737 MAX rather than giving a comprehensive overview of the factors leading to the two crashes and the issues with MCAS so the explanation on that is quick. If you want to learn more about that, I would suggest starting with this article: https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/vestigal-design-issue-clouds-737-max-crash-investigations/ Also, for the first time ever, we're taking topic suggestions for future Wendover videos. If we end up using your topic, we'll send you a free Wendover t-shirt in gratitude. Submit your ideas here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMAoo9CfGxr5OvZdz3qCCEkeQSVJpak3YYTHQFLRwXOyTOXA/viewform?usp=sf_link
Steven Swiggum (4 days ago)
Great video! This has been big news however the F35 has also been under scrutiny. I would love WP to dive into that topic. I already sent a request, but thought I'd leave a comment as well. ✌️
Vslsnks (7 days ago)
@Ben Berg Now go and stand next to the three hundred + dead passengers.
IlanBoy2 (10 days ago)
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aa bb (12 days ago)
It has not much to do with MCAS but with MBA-style short term management. The same reason Microsoft was defeated.
James Careless (14 days ago)
This is a superb piece of work; very clear, very on target, and just plain good!
Wade Sultan (4 hours ago)
Thoughts on Airbus kicking Boeing's ass at the Paris Air Show?
EightFrancs (10 hours ago)
Many swines at Boeing were warned, several times, that these planes were death traps. They are repugnant creatures who should be on death row right now.
changamanga100 (11 hours ago)
Boeing 737: CHEAP SMALL PLANE. A Death Trap ?
I like planes (16 hours ago)
MCAS pull up we’re gonna crash Oh god it has airpods on it cant hear us Oh god we’re all gonna die
Serge Vivier (1 day ago)
Excellent video showing how the share holders ran Boeing to the ground.
Shoggo (2 days ago)
I almost never fly on boeing planes anymore, and i fly frequently. Airbuses are just so much better overall and i think most airlines realize this, at least the ones i fly with.
Thomas Wieser (2 days ago)
When the Max death plane gets scrapped, I would like to buy one to build my dream home.
Gerardo Godoy (2 days ago)
More competition is needed.
Jos Geerink (2 days ago)
What a terrible video!
carol (2 days ago)
"Nobody would have guessed...it was a hasty decisione made by a hasty human brain" No, it was not something to "guess". If you only put one sensor, what's there to guess on what can happen if it becomes faulty. Plus, they didn't even tell the airlines they sold it to about MCAS, so the pilots didn't know about it and how it works and how to turn it off. They did so because if they did tell them aboit the MCAS, they wouldn't have been able to sell it as an aircraft that was the same as the other 737. The pilots of the airline to whom they would've sold this to had to spend then extra money to teach them about MCAS etc. And what to do if it's faulty. This would've discouraged buyers. So this is not about being hasty, this is about being greedy to the point of not caring about people's lives and safety. Stop making excuses for Boeing. This video make it seem as if Boeing "didn't do it on purpose". But they did. They made a choice. And they chose money and profit over people's lives.
Javier D (3 days ago)
"Most modern airplanes can be turned on by flipping a switch" What a shameless lie.
Victor Mkhaliphi (4 days ago)
There are people within and outside Boeing that must go to jail for this
Rosie Hawtrey (5 days ago)
So what they did was add a safety system that wasn't required instead of training the pilots properly to understand climb pitch control - running on a single sensor. As far as I can tell this isn't a fundamental design flaw, it's more a flaw in lack of training for pilots and over reliance on electronics. PS - all things being equal electronic servomotor control is less safe than cable or hydraulics because they are less likely to fail catastrophically. The ideal installation would be primary electroservo, secondary hydraulic and a tertiary cable control system (something similar fitted to A10 Warthog). What's the betting both the sensors failed due to excessive temperature (Africa is quite toasty after all). And despite MCAS being a pile of crap - duplicate or triplicate sensors and indicators would still have rendered an uncontrolled flight into terrain much less likely.
What Zit Tooya (6 days ago)
Don't think I will ever be flying on a Max even if the FAA clears it. They had a hand in these incidents as well.
Michael Talbot (3 days ago)
Yeah I'm with you on that one if Boeing can self certify the aircraft as fit to fly that's as bad as the FAA devolving their responsibilities it's almost like asking whole bunch of turkeys to vote for Thanksgiving it ain't going to happen
Fabricio Fercher (6 days ago)
Economy is a balanced system based on inventories. We never had that.
granskare (6 days ago)
I DO NOT LIKE WIX - take these tv type ads off, NOW !
Keaton Hanlon (7 days ago)
Some planes turn on at the flip of a switch? The 737 only has a warning light? Let's try spreading accurate information rather than fear mongering to get views.
Director of the Notification Squad (5 days ago)
I agree, Wendover productions should have clearly conveyed about the recoil starter on the max 737, rather than using all them fancy terms.
Byron King (7 days ago)
It's such an informative and well-illustrated video that I actually watched the ad for WIX. Thank you...
Cockpit Scenes (7 days ago)
There is some incorrect information in this video. You state that on the 737, the flight controls are operated directly from cables. In fact, the normal operation of the flight controls is by hydraulic actuator with cable input and various "computers" providing further information. In case of hydraulic failure the flight controls can be operated in a limited way by these same cables directly moving control tabs on the ailerons or the elevator. There is no way to move the rudder directly with cables when all hydraulic power fails. To see what can happen without cable backup, see this: https://youtu.be/jlHLywizP_8
Mouse Aviator (8 days ago)
Most modern airplanes can be turned on by flipping a switch? so you do not know a thing about airplanes. Stop making these videos if you are ignorant about the current situation, and giving misleading information to the public. This does not help anyone.
Ovidiu Nerges (8 days ago)
Boeing in 2017: this plane is going to be a succes Also Boeing in 2019: are you sure?
308KarlAviation (9 days ago)
They copied Airbus at this time redesigning their narrowbody with newer engines
Jayson Davis (9 days ago)
Well done. The 737 MAX is an inherently unstable aircraft. Inherent instability is an acceptable tradeoff for extreme maneuverability and performance...in military aircraft, but never passenger planes. The MAX cannot fly safely without the AoA/MCAS system that was slapped on. It’s a single point of failure/poorly conceived/poorly executed/flying death trap. You’ll never get me on one
sebbivism (9 days ago)
I’m pretty convenient to be a passenger in an Airbus aircraft.
Mike Stein (9 days ago)
No one talks about how badly the NG line was assembled they moved production to punish the union over a pension battle and used defective parts when qc spoke up they were threatened and fired had Boeing took the "right path " it would have costed them significantly more money but that's ok they have it, they wouldn't be experiencing this gigantic drop in quality and would have remained the top dog for generations to come, the NG were not built to the correct tolerances due to defective parts that were used any way and this is not even scratching the surface of the failed 737 max the NG is in the sky right now and with there shoddy fuse lodges built by Burger King workers that were not drug tested what this means is the planes fuse lodge will age very rapidly and has many weak points on the frames around the doors and if one has to ditch or crash land the fuse lodges on the NG s will most certainly come apart at the weak points , doing things cheaper and faster really does not work work out well since they took over md the landscape of the company has changed and the old redundant experienced engineers are all gone and this is not the Boeing it once was its focus is maximizing profits for share holders over safety and quality and the incredible cozy relationship with the faa allowed this to happen , the company was world class and it took the success built from good engineers and skilled labor and sold out its name to putting safety below profits this is far from over and we need to be looking harder at the NG line that is in the sky right now in droves I'm actually more afraid of that jet than the 737 because when that piece of junk starts to age they're gonna be splitting open like bananas
aurelio milaor cabal (9 days ago)
i guess 737 max not so economically to produce / make now, hope they ground this flying coffin. edit: GROUND FOREVER!!!!!!!
Andy Farmer (10 days ago)
Time now to put the 737 production and development to bed and produce a new design. Maybe they should have developed the 757 a bit more !
DAVID FORTNEY (9 days ago)
That and the 767. Great a/c's.
Hemal Manjrekar (10 days ago)
Very well explained , thanks :)
Simon Dagout (10 days ago)
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DeeZanic (10 days ago)
So just because a new plane is called a 737 makes it automatically a 737? Then boeing should have called all its airplanes 737's. No further pilot training required at all.
Adi A (10 days ago)
It was a clear case of decision made based of fat profits against long term safety. Should have called a spade a spade.
Charles Shi (11 days ago)
The FAA And Boeing Must Act On Another Matter of Faulty B737 Safety Parts https://faaoversightextraordinaryairsafetythreat.wordpress.com/2019/06/03/the-faa-and-boeing-must-act-on-another-matter-of-faulty-b737-safety-parts
m ptc (11 days ago)
I predict it will NOT take too long before everyone realizes that Southwest Airlines is partly to blame for the 737MAX mess. During the 1990's development of the 737NG and again during the 737MAX, Boeing kowtowed to the desires of SWA cost-cutting! Whenever Boeing wanted to add a safety device (e.g. autobrakes, electronic checklist, better navigation displays etc) SWA declined unless it added no cost to the jet. So the blame of why the 737MAX has the same cockpit as the 1960's model can be put squarely on Southwest Airlines.
aa bb (12 days ago)
It is not economics but MBA style management culture that caused the 737 incident. It will not change.
Scott Lowson (12 days ago)
I wonder how many of the people on the board of Boeing are ex Wall Street,too many I would guess
Christopher Sabri (12 days ago)
Great video! I love how all the history for most of the video comes together at the end and it all just clicks. It's sad to see the lengths companies will go to save money.
cedricmeallan (12 days ago)
According to some other sources, American Airlines didn't strong-arm Boeing into building the 737 Max. Boeing strong-armed itself into building the 737 Max in order to match the Airbus A320 orders of American Airlines.
J R Deckard (12 days ago)
When Ethiopian Airlines flight 302 crashed, all the plane parts and dead bodies were above ground. When Flight 93 crashed in PA, none of plane parts or bodies were above ground. Hemm. That's odd.
E1craZ4life (10 days ago)
Here's a list of accidents and incidents to look at: - Turkish Airlines Flight 981 - American Airlines Flight 191 - PSA Flight 1771 - ASA Flight 2311 - Comair Flight 3272 - ValuJet Flight 592 - TAROM Flight 371 - SilkAir Flight 185 - Swissair Flight 111 - Korean Air Flight 8509 - Crossair Flight 498 - Aeroflot Nord Flight 821 - Germanwings Flight 9525
Stan M (13 days ago)
It's a flop...Needs socialized Government bailout.
brezhnev89 (13 days ago)
I rarely leave comments but the structure and logic of this video is great. Well explained and put together.
Albert Bremner (13 days ago)
The 737 MAX is the worst engineering disaster in history. It's an out of the box out of CG disaster. I would never fly one. I feel very bad about it...such a lovely looking plane. But they should have never gone blah and just moved the engines forward and upward to the point they trample the wing's leading edge. And there's the Datum these imbeciles totally forgot about. Horrendous mistake. Whoever these idiots were...they sure didn't have a single hour of flight time under their belt.
Riley Hoddinott (13 days ago)
So MCAS is just a giant botch for a total fuckup in design by boeing ?
James E Stubbs (14 days ago)
The 737 is the DC-3 of the Jet Age.
Gary Tarr (14 days ago)
If it's a Boeing , I aint flying !!!!
Bobby Fhet (14 days ago)
dollars for death count..cheap equals lots of unnecessary deaths
tim moss (14 days ago)
i will never get on this plane
Daniel Roberts (14 days ago)
Now if they can get this plane to stop killing its passengers, then we'll have something good here.
Anand Shah (14 days ago)
Here after : "Boeing warns about possible wing problems on some 737 Max planes"
Dandmore (9 days ago)
And 737NG planes
SCOTT ontheboat (15 days ago)
A330--706 units / 3 crashes/459 fatalities/ still flying 737 Max--750 units/ 2 crashes/359 fatalities/ grounded 🤔🤔😨🤓
Tilman Jason Schultz (14 days ago)
Exactly! You are comparing an aircraft version (4th generation) that has been in service for less than 22 months at the time of suffering two inexplicable and almost identical crashes resulting in total loss of crew, passengers and airframe with a plane that has been flying successfully for over 25 years, with airlines still ordering them today. This is why one of them is grounded.
james Lambshead (15 days ago)
8 hours on a 737 😳
SCOTT ontheboat (15 days ago)
Fly any 737 and response by pilots to runaway trim is the same as the Max😨🤔 What😇
James Hoffman (16 days ago)
The economics that drove Boeing to create MCAS didn’t require that they implement such a brain-dead design. Is that because management hid MCAS from nearly all the engineers. (No engineer worthy of the title would come up with such a stupid death-trap design)
Joacy Santos (16 days ago)
Best explanation ever!!!
christopher hennessey (16 days ago)
Sounds like this plane is really a flop.
Craig Tucker (16 days ago)
Does Huawei make planes? what is the chinese equivalent of these planes? or any other plane one can choose that is not Boing
Wen Chu (16 days ago)
americans always want win, win, win, just like trump, and then they tend to become sour losers when they do lose.
Roarmeister2 (16 days ago)
I haven't met a person yet that didn't want to win... including the Chinese bullies.
George Costarica (17 days ago)
Hail Airbus and I used hate their name
Tony Yomomma (17 days ago)
This is one Bullshit video. You guys dont know dick about modern jets or jets in general. You actually just sound like an Airbus fanboy more than anything else.
Nayshjin (14 days ago)
The 737 max crashed twice
Glenn MacArthur (18 days ago)
cobrapub here,HELLO I am still alive you twit,yes I helped Boeing/Locheed/Gulfstream design and develop aircraft/spacecraft for 50 years!Now I hear from a Economic Industral over educated moron,about how Airbus is better than Boeing,REALLY!What a SHORT MEMORY,Hello,remember the Farnboro airbus disaster after an airbus demo a so called "FLY BY WIRE" system and killed 50 passangers!Then there is the Air France disaster off Brazil 300 passanger and plane missing for a year!Beoings montra has always been "LET THE PILOTS FLY THE PLANE",that is why the 737 has been so successfull! My last job was on the Japanese "MJR" and it is a smaller version of the 737 not a A310!The problem is H/R,to many cooks spoiling the end produce!
King Daniel (18 days ago)
time and time again. Investors are not looking out for the company but themselves and they are really really stupid. But CEO still base real life decisions on them. How many times had investors error(greed) created disasters for everyone and themselves?
Charles Ruben (18 days ago)
Airbus made an audacious bet with the A380 , too big , can't fly everywhere and is very difficult to fill, all big companies make mistakes because they run by men Boeing went too far
touraneindanke (18 days ago)
Let it fly in the US alone, seats at discount prizes!
Steven Stevensen (19 days ago)
Best video on that 737 Max matter so far. The only missing thing is the most obvious question why Boeing just didn't design a higher landing gear to have more space under the wings for bigger engines
Prism Tacuboy (18 days ago)
That's because doing that will cause multiple problems. Lengthening the landing gear means that you need to change the structure of the wings to add more space for the landing gear to fit in.
Yonas Abebe (19 days ago)
Boeing 737 Max killer ! 😳
Yonas Abebe (19 days ago)
This airplane got a lot of problem to bring on the air again and killing more life. It needs reengineering and remanufacture...Boeing was doing business in a short cut which took 360 innocent lifes 😢
tube1062 (19 days ago)
I wonder how the f*ck Boeing is going to sugarcoat this to make people forget about the whole ordeal? The piece of shit should never have been allowed to fly...(I wonder how many kickbacks the FFA received to put the rubber stamp on the approval..?)
AtcCom (14 days ago)
Not entirely true, just because you do the Type Rating for the 737 Family, doesn't mean you can switch between the models without any kind of training. If you choose to switch from the Boeing 737/800 to the 737/700 you have to do an online/IPad course which is called the difference Training which basically shows you the differences between these two types. Mentioned at 7:00 min
Fire Powered RadioActive Elevator (14 days ago)
He mentioned: "any substantial training" and I don't think a ipad course can be named as substantial in this case.
Dan Cojocaru (19 days ago)
The first 40 seconds are basically "this Boeing plane is not an Airbus" -_-
john hand (19 days ago)
are you an aircraft engineer before mr wendover
Jim Heeren (19 days ago)
Lucky KLM bought the last 737NG. So they are still happily flying our brand new 737s
Marcus Mizerak (20 days ago)
I'm talking a vacation in July to Puerto Rico and the plane is a United 737-800. This is my 1st time on a commercial flight. I used to rent Cessna 182s and Piper Comanches and fly around Northern New Jersey and NYC before 9/11 but now times have obviously changed. ✌Take care everyone...
Edward Cook (20 days ago)
If it isn't Boeing, I'm not going. 737 is second only to the B-52.
James Bond (20 days ago)
Boycott this shoddy designed A/C
LZ129 Brazil (20 days ago)
So it is the airlines who made Boeing for the deceiptful engineering of the 737 MAX? Smart managers on both sides. You pay for what you get, a deadly aircraft passengers rely on.
Ewan Black (21 days ago)
Everyone keeps going on about this software update as if it were a magic bullet - but keep on ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that the aircraft is inherently unstable, which is why it needs the software to correct the instability in the first place. Will I ever fly on one - not a cats chance in hell will I ever step foot on one - software fix or no software fix.
hyou zan ren (21 days ago)
Basicly Boeing priority is profit money and their CEO bonus over life of pilots and their passengers!!!
lordy1952 (22 days ago)
So it's American Airlines fault....
Vinay Madhugiri (22 days ago)
Yo thank you for this video (and more importantly the references). I am writing a topic brief on a related issue, and needed to add a section on the 737 MAX 8 problem
Simon Furber (22 days ago)
you have a very good voice !
Simon Furber (22 days ago)
excellent summary
Simon Furber (22 days ago)
it's just like driving around in a 1966 Chevy. But much more dangerous !
kevin Simala (23 days ago)
Exactly. We are in denial as a country regarding population explosion. The 737 has been stretched so far beyond it's design parameters to accommodate the throngs of people while keeping ticket prices at Wal-Mart levels. This is what you get people: crammed cabins and dangerous airplanes. And this population driven engineering is achieved by pushing safety further down in the name of computer automation and economically viable transportation. But don't worry, Boeing will figure out what's wrong and fix it like they always do:after 5 or 6 airplanes crash and only about 500 humans are killed in the name of computer technology. Who's next? Party on dudes!
HighFlyer (23 days ago)
It wasn't so much the aerodynamics that were changed by the new engines. It was the pitch moment of those engines. Aerodynamics wasn't the issue as the stabilizer had plenty of authority to override the pitch up. Most aircraft exhibit some change in pitch with changes in power, flap deployment or landing gear position. Software fixes have become an accepted technique to fixing unwanted flight characteristics. Iirc the 787 eliminates aileron flutter this way. The main issue it seems is a safety system that the flight crew wasn't properly trained on or in some cases notified of it's existence.
jfsa380 (23 days ago)
Personally, after 3 hours on a 737, i’m sick of it. It was designed for smaller, less developed airports to reach super hubs, where the 707’s, 747’s, and 767’s would carry people on their way. Now even regional jets have grown out of flying to smaller fields, having either canceled service, or forced the airports to develop. Back on track, at a certain point, the designers have to realize, that you can’t have an aircraft do everything. It was built in the class of the DC-9. You don’t see anyone flying trans continental, or trans atlantic, New York to Paris, on a DC-9 do ya? They’ve effectively taken an aircraft to replace the DC-9, and make it, at the same time, replace the 767. Make up your mind. How about an update to the 757, designed precisely for long and thin routes? Nope, they’ve canceled that, and are putting people in a frankensteined 50 year old regional jet.
Tubmaster 5000 (23 days ago)
Another example of how competition does not always lead to good outcomes.
Jonathan Pryzby (24 days ago)
fantastic as always
mr fantastic (24 days ago)
So, who's gonna face some serious jail time over this? That's the real question
Sonny Miller (24 days ago)
the 737 max does not have cable controlled flight controls, it is a mixture of fly-by-wire and hydraulics.
Sonny Miller (22 days ago)
@Ramdog thats insane, so in theory a modern 737 could lose all flight controls if the cabin floor collapses and pinches the cables?
Ramdog (22 days ago)
@Sonny Miller No. 'Manual reversion' is not a redundancy system, it's simply what's left of the fully functional hydraulic-assisted cable system, when hydraulics fails or are inactivated by switches. It 'reverts' to 100% cable. Cables are still the main mechanism in both modes. In fact the cables can break, it has happened on 737, and then that control surface is 100% inoperable (regardless of hydraulics working, which now has no cable input to work on). It's absolutely true the 737 relies on steel cables. That's a consequence of being designed in the 1960s. It's NOT fly-by-wire! So the design is old, not modern. That doesn't mean it's bad in principle though, cables are inspected with high regularity. It's just the MAX that is bad because it's not redesigned to accommodate it's new engines.. Instead they "fixed" imbalanced flying characteristics with software. That's not a design philosophy to engineer aircrafts. That's a design-philosophy of business-management enforcing bad engineering for sake of profit.
Sonny Miller (23 days ago)
@Ramdog my understanding was that cabled flight control on the 737 max models is a redundancy system called 'manual reversion'. the video gives to the casual observer the impression that the new models of the 737 rely on steel cables to power the control surfaces. in reality, its a heavy mix of fly by wire tech and 3 hydraulics systems. either way, it is a very modern and safe airliner.
Ramdog (22 days ago)
It does have cables to the main control surfaces directly from flight controls. Hydraulics assist only to reduce required physical input force, like power steering, through "hydraulic end actuators". Ailerons, elevators and horizontal stabilizers are all cabled (with hydraulic assistance). Only slats, flaps and rudder are fully hydraulic.
Ceryus Business (25 days ago)
0:15 it crashed without the pilots know whats wrong
Moule Humide (25 days ago)
the amount of meme here is outstanding
Jeff Bourke (25 days ago)
they made 737 Max because profit before safety.
Tomáš Šimčík (26 days ago)
They can at least change the name of that boeing. I suggest somethink like Boeing 737 Maxx Kamikadze. That can solve the issue with public awareness as Trump suggested. Software update, change the name, let it fly... problem solved.
billsixx (26 days ago)
All these idiots had to do to sell a longer single-aisle airliner was to re-start the 757 assy line. By stretching the 737, they totally wrecked the weights and balances of the original design, requiring continuous fighting against the pitch to keep it from augering into the ground.
PlaystationMasterPS3 (26 days ago)
5:48 trump bumper sticker on the stairlift? why?
QU0B3N 9999 (25 days ago)
Cus he’s pres
Phung Quyen (26 days ago)
Brilliantly explained! Always love your well-made, easy-to-understand videos. Can you make one about Huawei soon? The Chinese giant is getting a lot of attention these days.
Speedy Bohlke (27 days ago)
American Greed...Boeing's CEO will probably get a hefty bonus for fixing the software i.e. putting a plaster on a plaster of a dead horse. Scumbags...
dustin cerda (28 days ago)
Holy shit the ending though
JediOfTheRepublic (28 days ago)
There are some inaccuracies in your video. For instance, MCAS is not a stall prevention system.
Andy Hall (28 days ago)
I'm sure this is a great video about where and why Boeing screwed up. However, you began your with a bunch of blatantly false statements. I stopped the video at 48 seconds in because almost everything you said so far has been false. Maybe "most modern airliners" means something different to you? I'm looking forward to the rest of the video.