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VOR Navigation Made Easy

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http://groundschoolacademy.com VOR Navigation is one of those things that is difficult to teach. In this video I've broken it down to manageable pieces to help you better understand VOR navigation
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mph7 (6 days ago)
as soon as i heard HOOOOwwww ssllloooowww yyyooouurrr vvoooiiiicccceee iiiiiiiiiisssss I turned off
Preston Miller (12 days ago)
If you wish to refer to the center of the VOR dial as a donut then I would prefer to sat the needle touched the outside edge of the donut rather than the top of the donut. To me the needle never touched the top of the donut but rather the side or the outside edge. It's little slips like this that can make navigation confusing for a new pilot. Navigation theory can be talked about all day long in the classroom. But it's time in the air that will make the best teaching environment.
Michael Gant (15 days ago)
cant get over the voice
Dawid Van Niekerk (27 days ago)
Thanx. a lot! A bearing is TO a VOR. A radia is from a VOR. I c its is difficult.
donepearce (29 days ago)
A world-class own-trumpet-blower. With a creepy smile (hence probably some sort of Christian). And no, this lesson is nothing special. You're confusing headings and radials.
Pavel Reznikov (1 month ago)
x1.25 makes him talk like a human
Matthew Brandt (12 days ago)
Or x1.5 ;)
Glenn Johnson (1 month ago)
great job !
ehsan83 (1 month ago)
very informative thank you
Manrique Hidalgo (1 month ago)
Congratulations, very clear
Mr. Shim (1 month ago)
2:07 Start
rdlez (1 month ago)
Cool stuff.
Al G (2 months ago)
Dude you wanted to fly R090 inbound ! Why would you decide to fly R270 inbound instead! You’re confusing people here with your wrong procedures/knowledge !
Sunbulah (2 months ago)
VOR is actually much clearer and less confusing in glass cockpit airplanes
Roman Iachin (2 months ago)
(It helps to better understand it but not enough in my opinion...) <---- never mind that... I will try to follow your instruction on FSW & come back with an answere! Well now that i have tested it 100% perfect tutorial, it was confusing to watch but once i tried it my self it worked! Thanks a lot!
Sammy Davis (2 months ago)
Not one of your finest work, video confusing, thought process is not flowing ..
Rob Hansen (2 months ago)
This explanation was very clear but the questions on the written test are meant to confuse. The FAA selects sectional charts that are so cluttered it is difficult to discern what radials are being used. It is totally unfair and not a good test of understanding.
None Ya (2 months ago)
I started flying back in the mid 70s and have always hated VOR navigation. Not very accurate and easily confusing for IFR holds. I've heard that VORs are going away now that we have GPS navigation. I'll look forward to that. GPS is the best thing since the compass.
Sean Anderson (2 months ago)
Save yourself and go to 1:31.
Loren Jones (3 months ago)
As soon as I heard "TO radial" I hung my head in dispair. That's PRECISELY what creates confusion for the students. There are only radials radiating FROM the VOR. We track TO a station ON a radial FROM the station by using the reciprocal. We CFI's bear the blame for making VORs difficult by this kind of confusing presentation.
Dick Johnson (3 months ago)
"THIS IZZ 2019, NOT 1819!! WHY WASTE OUR TIME WITH THIS STEAM PUNK JUNK?!?!?" VOR and RMI navigation, the basics, will do more for situational awareness when stuff fails. Steam guages require a different scan technique from glass, but it's easier to transition from steam to glass than the other way around. Glass still utilizes 'needles' on the nav display Boeing and Bus panels, even though the steam needles are referenced to nav comps, IRS/GPS systems. The more tools you have in your box...
Michael Rodrerick (3 months ago)
Video are great however doesnt changes the fact the he looks like captain dicksucker
Thomas Holcomb (3 months ago)
talks like him too
Chuang Ruan (3 months ago)
Buy a real flight computer and play it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/401810526115
Shukokai Stu 1983 (3 months ago)
Very good, thank you.
Ethan Boyd (3 months ago)
Best VOR instructional and explanation ever. Hands down.
John .T (3 months ago)
VORE NAVIGATION
Harry Kane (3 months ago)
Seriously? This is supposed to SIMPLIFY VOR nav? I've been flying for over 55 years and hold a commercial fixed wing and rotor craft with multi engine and instrument ratings and I've never seen a poorer description of VOR. Your radial, heading and bearing terms are all over the place. Sorry but this doesn't get it as it doesn't clear anything up on VOR, rather confuses the new pilot.
Thomas Laux (3 months ago)
Very good prez
squid b0ii (4 months ago)
Very handy. Top comments are from numpties. This makes sense to me.
Dan G (4 months ago)
If you want to get to the VOR (lets say from directly east) does it matter if you use the FROM 90 radial or the TO 270 radial?
Bill Jones (4 months ago)
Very nice. Agree with some of the comments below regarding terminology. Radials "radiate" outward. The 090 radial starts on the East side of the station and "radiates" outward. You can say, "Intercept the 090 radial and track inbound." But you cant do that if you are anywhere on the West side of the station. The verbiage should be, "Intercept the 270 radial and track inbound." Or...."Intercept the 090 course and track inbound."
John Lennon (5 months ago)
I hate it when people say, "Without further a do". What the hell does that mean anyway???
Paul Maiorana (5 months ago)
Great video. I have a CPL, but don't spend a lot of time on VORs. This was a great re cap.
막사는인생막백수 (5 months ago)
Thank you so much from South Korea!
tom wilson (5 months ago)
Always like to learn
GreenGuyDIY (5 months ago)
What software was used to produce this video?
Kami Sama (6 months ago)
You come off as a pretentious jackass. I hope that helps.
Adham Hassan (6 months ago)
man you made this more confusing that already is!
Randy (6 months ago)
In the beginning i didnt get it at all, but nearing the end it clicked and I understood all :) Thanks!
Ma X (6 months ago)
Sir you making it sound very difficult in it need a very simplistic explanation
Luke Cronje (6 months ago)
Thank you for taking the time to make content or in this case, share content with students not taking part in your ground school. This is a extremely helpful video. I appreciate it !
Shadow (6 months ago)
How do I know opposite heading of inbound and outbound radialz
Wilton Cabral (6 months ago)
Very Nice !
Kenno Aviation (6 months ago)
7 years on - still a spot on lesson!
Ben Jones (6 months ago)
Recipocal lmao what a moron
irProteus (7 months ago)
Jason, using the term "Radial" for both inbound and outbound I believe creates an opportunity for confusion to exist. If you are on an "inbound" heading......I believe that is referred to as a "VECTOR" ....i.e., I'm on an inbound vector of 050 degrees........ If you are on an outbound heading away from the station you would be on a "RADIAL" ....i.e., I'm on an outbound radial of 230 degrees. Using Vector and Radial is intended to prevent confusion; ex: I'm on a 047 Radial ....... doesn't differentiate whether I'm inbound to the station or outbound from the station .... Using 047 Vector denotes that I'm inbound to the station and using 047 Radial denotes that I'm outbound from the station.
Christopher Hadsell (7 months ago)
I'm wondering, because you don't have the blue and green map, you only have the VOR indicator (and heading indicator). Seems like you make a guess (needle is left or right) and then you go accordingly until you get the movement, no green/blue map, unless you're using the GPS. I have to still learn about the GPS.
David M (7 months ago)
If a flight examiner told me to intercept the 90 radial "to" the station, I would have to fly east of station and intercept the 90 radial with eventual heading of 270. Terminology is key. There is no 90 radial west of the station.
David M (7 months ago)
ATC only talks "Radials" and "headings" they don't don't tell you whether it is "to" or "from". Saying you are "on the" 50 radial " to" the station can lead to confusion. In reality, you were NOT on the 50 radial, you were "on" the 230 radial "inbound" to VOR. This implies 230 is dialed in bottom of VOR. There are only 360 unique radials. Communicating with ATC, you must tell them what radial you are actually on. They have no idea if your VOR says "to" or "from". Socal approach, Skyhawk 7954Y, 3 DME to VOR, on 230 radial heading 50, is very clear. Not, Socal approach, Skyhawk 7954Y, 3 DME on 50 radial "to" the VOR. Yeah....this is very nuanced, but clear phraseology is key. In reality, in the above example, you would intercept 270 radial "inbound", not 90 radial "to". BTW...Mzero always does good videos and I appreciate them....but maybe not this one.
Stephen Kaye (7 months ago)
Wow, this was really pretty poor. My instrument instructor taught me a much easier way in 1992! Last year I did put together this one page "How To" for a friend https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxldWJpZWhvbWV8Z3g6N2Q5MjI5NzZhMGFjZjYwNg Gian Luca Noia uses a very similar method right here on YouTube.
Neo Positivity (7 months ago)
Great job
HAILSTONE AERIAL FILMS (8 months ago)
Hi Lucas, Thank you for the video. Is there a way to track the vor center at say 20 nm radius. So fly a circle around it. Also how do we know how and when to change from the radial onto the approach. Maybe you could do a video on it.
sami azba (8 months ago)
very Nice i need to inform me how can i learn my chidren flying on the net
Ondra pilot (8 months ago)
Thank you that realy help my
Don Smith (8 months ago)
When the examiner asked me to dial in a VOR and fly to it, I did so without comparing each Morse Code character with the sectional. On the ground, the examiner criticized me for not verifying the VOR. I told him that I DID verify the VOR. I told him that I'm an amateur radio operator and I know Morse Code. He smiled. In retrospect, I should have repeated the letters I was hearing out loud, but it was so natural to me to be reading the code that I didn't think of it. So, if you know Morse Code and don't need to compare the dits and dahs with the sectional to verify a VOR, say something. As an aside, one of my pleasures was flying to smaller towns using their local AM broadcast station as an NDB and using a technique taught to me by a lady instructor who once ferried aircraft in WWII that allowed me to track straight to an NDB in a crosswind. I wonder if really practical techniques like that are taught in this online ground school class.
Steve Burrington (8 months ago)
Great video
Braden Bogdan (8 months ago)
A+!
carlos botero (9 months ago)
I am a new member of the school and. The reason i joined is because i liked a lot the videos i saw in UTUBE. And I have to say, the videos that are posted in utube , yes it showes the school is great, but to be honest, I think the actual classes are a thousand times better. Is incredible the suppport you get from the school , the you ask them a question and in less than nothing you get an answer. Honestly, the best online school ever!!!!!!!
John Grummitt (9 months ago)
I gave up when you mixed up to and from just after four minutes in. I don't feel I can trust someone to teach me about navigation when they can't read the key to their own chart.
John Leach (9 months ago)
I can't believe how complicated you've made this. In SAC, when up north in the 1950's, we had to rely on it. We called it 'Mom's compass' and relied upon it in Gander, Thule, etc. It beat the hell of out Grid Navigation charts.
Jason Binkowski (9 months ago)
didn't know the 090 radial is on the west side of the compass
Marck Wilson (9 months ago)
Great help :)
Jerry Browne (9 months ago)
If I was on the 230° radial heading 050°, I might turn to a heading off 060° and picked up the 090° to reduce the intercept angle and avoid going directly over the VOR to avoid potential traffic using the same VOR. Who wants to make sharp turns if you don't have to.
Jerry Browne (8 months ago)
@William Byrnes: Ah, I see what I did. I meant set 90° from and intercept the 90 flying to the right of the VOR as we were both taught to avoid flying directly over the VOR.
William Byrnes (8 months ago)
@Jerry Browne I guess it was "I was taught not to fly directly over the VOR" is what made me think other wise. :) All good. The way that I talked about intercepting a radial is something that I only learned about 7 years ago. Prior to that I always turned the OBS to see where I was from the VOR then do the math and everything else to find my heading that I needed to fly. After finding out about this makes it so much easier and faster, little to think about.
Jerry Browne (8 months ago)
@William Byrnes: Yea, I was agreeing with you. What did I say wrong?
William Byrnes (8 months ago)
@Jerry Browne What is said did not have you fly over the VOR. If you follow how I said you would not have to fly over the VOR plus you will never have to turn the OBS to see what radial you are on because you don't care. You are trying to intercept a set radial and that is what you care about. Just use the VOR gauge to tell you what heading to fly by looking at the TO/FROM flag and what side the needle is on. What angle you fly is up. The way I said is very is to figure out and requires not much thought.
Jerry Browne (8 months ago)
@William Byrnes: Hi Will, I was taught NOT to fly directly over the VOR to avoid traffic congestion,(accident area). I would set 270° from, and turn to an angle that would put me in a safe frequency range to intercept the outbound radial, 10°-15°, and wait till you pick it up. Shortest distance.........
Dean Melville (10 months ago)
Next to the Asian Indians you have the most annoying voice
Whoa Nelly (10 months ago)
geez...this was not good. About 6:20. You're actually on the 230-degree radial tracking inbound. You cannot be SW of the VOR and be on the 050-degree radial "inbound". The language used here is wrong. Also, the NAV CDI Indicator doesn't care a hoot about the heading of your airplane, at 8:01 it's stated that the course is to your left...really? If the airplane remained in that exact spot, but was on a heading on 050, the NAV CDI would look exactly the same! Would you still be saying the course is to your left??? The CDI needle would still be on the left side, but the course is to your right. Oh, and at 1:40 you could have just spent 15 seconds on explaining the easiest method to intercept the inbound course and then fly outbound on the 090-degree radial. Look back starting at 1:40 and the CDI NAV Indicator. Leave the OBS on 090. The flag is pointed to the top half. The needle points to the left. This is the upper-left hand quadrant of the NAV CDI Indicator. Based on the OBS set at 090 on the course card (what you want to intercept), on the left side of the course card is, 360 (North), split the difference which is 045 degrees. Turn to a heading of 045-degrees, wait for needle to just about center and THEN turn to 090. A 15 second explanation.
The Jason Knight Fiasco Band (10 months ago)
Ok, thanks Billy!
Rodney Brown (10 months ago)
Jason these videos are excellent.
Lee Turner (10 months ago)
Can't you just fly to to the VOR on the inbound and turn onto the outbound radial just as the needle is about to centre?
GWOSAPAT (10 months ago)
Just fly the reciprocal heading of the from indicator.
Frits van Doorn (10 months ago)
Nah, confusing. Sorry.
Atlas Rising (11 months ago)
So is your bearing a 230 on a 050 radial at the same time? ultra confusing.
Mitchell Kristoff (11 months ago)
I feel a lot better about all this
savagecub (11 months ago)
VOR navigation - ? Why ? I guess this is here for a historical perspective. Sort of like explaining A-N navigation - right ?
Bill T (11 months ago)
Would you consider making a video on how to use the EB-6 Electronic flight computer? I would love to learn more about this computer. Also, I would like to know if you have a favorite electronic flight computer.
Chesty McStudmuffin (11 months ago)
This was not made easy.
Chesty McStudmuffin (11 months ago)
It's a magazine, not a clip!
tommyc1946 (11 months ago)
Not impressed at all.  Now I am confused.
Valentin Beaulieu (11 months ago)
Thank you dude, it was very helpful!
Wesim Maruwge (1 year ago)
Hi! Whats the name of the nav. program you are using plz!? :-)
zubair ali (1 year ago)
Great tutorial MzeroA Flight Training...which software are you using to demonstrate?
James Redmond (1 year ago)
By definition, wouldn't he have been intercepting the 270 radial. It's technically not the 090 until you get east of the vor???
Cristian (1 year ago)
For all of you keep this in mind: OUTBOUND Head on the radial when the CDI is on the right (+) when the CDI is on the left (-) INBOUND tail on the radial when the CDI is on the right (+) when the CDI is on the left (-) 1. the example was intercept the radial 090 INBOUND, but he set the OBS pointing out the radial 090, so he actually did it OUTBOUND because he has the head on the radial 2. the hearing was 050, lets say that it was 045 to be more accurate. the CDI is on the left so, when the CDI is on the left (-) it means: take your heading 045 and SUBTRACT, but what I should subtract? you have to subtract the degrees you want to intercept the VOR. for example, intercept the radial 45 degrees, so your current heading is 045 and you have to subtract 45 degrees in order to intercept the radial 45 degrees, so 45 - 45 = 0 or 360.. So you have to go to the heading 360 to intercept the radial 090 OUTBOUND 45 degrees and when the bar track is getting centered you have to turn gradually and smooth to the heading 090 to intercept the radial 090 outbound as he did in the video. The video was really good and helpful though. Keep it up!
Andrew Hale (1 year ago)
You didn’t really succeed in making it simple
John Huthmaker (1 year ago)
Thanks for the video. I was doing my flight review today after 10 years of inactivity. I can fly a plane just as good as I ever could, but I had completely forgotten VOR navigation. I think I'll be ready to finish my flight review after watching your video.
Jacques Mootoo (1 year ago)
Came across your video on Youtube this is great. I am going back to flying after so many years and I will definitely sign up. Thanks for the amazing lessons.
James Tobin (1 year ago)
what software are you using for this?
MeLarryO (1 year ago)
confused the hell out of me.....
Justin Shelton (1 year ago)
So forgive me if this sounds stupid as I have not yet started ground school myself, but was it truly necessary to fly due north on heading 360? Why couldn't you for example fly heading 020 or 030 to gradually intercept 090 and then change heading again accordingly? (obviously excluding radar vectors here).
Eli Cohen - MisterMedia (1 year ago)
Thanks!! You really made it simple!
Bob theGrape (1 year ago)
You're making it more complicated than it is. I would explain it differently, but this is just my opinion and technique.
Mile High Maintenance (1 year ago)
I disagree you did not intercept the 090 you intercepted the 270... the instructor asked you to intercept and track the 090 radial inbound.... you should have flown east then circled back to track 090 in.
craig munson (3 months ago)
this is correct.. simple way to think about radials are like street signs. street named A at one side of the intersection and B going 180" the other way. the 090 RADIAL is to the right of the intersection ( the exact center of the VOR.) and the 270 Radial is to the left and opposite of the 090 RADIAL. easiest way for student to grasp is to sketch it out on paper on his or hers kneeboard. first the vor. then the aircraft relative to the VOR. finally the single 090 RADIAL extending from the VOR with a ARROW TIP at the end of the RADIAL pointing INward ( tracking to the VOR on the 090 RADIAL to the VOR. now simple to understand. i have to fly to the ARROW TIP, cross it turning Right to center up on a VOR setting of 270 flying approximately 270 with a TO showing and normal sensing on the needle. Personally always hated reverse sensing. first time i flew solid IFR got nto icing. told the controller i am doing a 180 NOW. She said you are so close why not come on in. wanted to give me a reverse sensing ILS approach. Replied did not want it. Note the higher voice panic starting to grow. She then offered a PAR approach. Perfect. Brought me right in all iced up. Never did get her name. I still owe her a dinner at any restaurant of her choice. craig CFI, CFII MEI, CFIG, AGI, IGI. slowly working on BI
Brett Dawson (1 year ago)
This guy is as fucked-up as Hogan's goat. If you're just learning, ship this video.
Rick Denis (1 year ago)
Bearings and radials are not the same thing.
Rafael Grullon (1 year ago)
thanks
Emale2000 (1 year ago)
He contradicts himself. At 6:55: "Intercept & track the 090 RADIAL inbound to the station". Then in the next breath: " ... the 090 BEARING to the station." Poor instructions.
Chuck You (1 year ago)
Of course you do know when you changed your heading you also were supposed to change your altitude, good video though. You should also show the students how to verify their position using two VOR to cross reference.
jamlaw05 (1 year ago)
People are being really critical of this video, but I really enjoyed it. It helped me get a good basic understanding of VOR. Thanks for the helpful video!
stephen hummer (1 year ago)
sorry ~ incomplete VOR instruction~too much narative~need more animation
Scott White (1 year ago)
You're trying to get me killed I'm going back to King
Scott White (1 year ago)
You should have radio was flying away not towards now you're using it in both directions so thanks anyway
William Wetherton (1 year ago)
thanks that helped