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Story - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_1354 UPS Airlines Flight 1354 was a scheduled cargo flight from Louisville International Airport to Birmingham--Shuttlesworth International Airport. On August 14, 2013, the aircraft flying this route, a UPS Airlines Airbus A300-600F, crashed and burst into flames short of the runway on approach to Birmingham--Shuttlesworth International Airport in the US state of Alabama. Both pilots were pronounced dead at the scene of the crash. They were the only people aboard the aircraft.
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TraviTrail (3 months ago)
That's what you get for hiring blacks..they're stupid and lazy..incompetent in everyway.
Thomas L (5 months ago)
Should of had a Boeing
Schlomo Weissbergman-Goldsteinwitz, Ph.D. (2 months ago)
Should have
TheKnowItAll (6 months ago)
I've taken off and landed at the alternate runway there a few times. It just misses the mountain. It's one of the scariest runways I know. Took off once in a full 727 and the pilot willed that plane in the air. Damn near ran out of runway and just cleared the top of Montclair hospital.
jabo51581 (6 months ago)
enumrob (7 months ago)
'Ol Redbird needs to change the batteries in his hearing aids.
jamesbulldogmiller (7 months ago)
"maintain 3,000"
Quagmire71006 (8 months ago)
Was that UPS? Damn my girlfriend was the co pilot, guess I have to cancel dinner reservations. Thanks tower. Btw do you have a dinner date? If not I'm obviously available. No? Oh ok thanks tower. Oh and fire Redbird....
OSCAR MIKE (8 months ago)
Runways @ Bham INTL line up exactly N-S 18/36 which is used almost exclusively for Private pilots (Cessna 150s-210s, King Airs, etc & other corporate or civilian/small/medium sized cabin jets (Cessna, Bombardier-Challenger 300 Lear 60, 40, etc)...runway 06/24 is the primary runway used for any commercial, cargo, "heavy"...there had been extensive work done to runway 18/36 ...18/36 is the shorter with landing either direction of 18 or 36 there are significant elevation changes...at time of accident much more obstruction landing 18...(Since the accident, the ridge where occurred has been flattened and tree's removed)...06/24 either direction is pretty much a straight shot on final. The work was actually being done on 18/36 as was nearing the last stages (clean-up actually) of an entire overhaul of 18/36...but was minimum by that time....due to 06/24 intersecting w/ 18/36 beyond threshold of 24 & past threshold of 18...06/24 was closed bc the "work" being done was actually removing a few barrels, cones, etc that was placed a few feet west of the 18-26 intersect...meaning--a few maintenance trucks would be darting across 06/24 -- light traffic--06/24 was closed for maybe an hour or 2 if that long...Traffic starts building up for 06/24 beginning w 1st flight out of BHM daily wch is Delta 555am flight to ATL for connecting flights...point being-no major construction or integrity issues with either runway- Unless a person has personally landed on 18 specifically prior to this accident none of the info read describes what I believe caused the accident..and the actions of the city, FAA after demonstrates my belief...for those of us who have landed on 18 many times are familiar with the potential lethal elevation fluctuations--including height of trees which have grown since prior surveys...there are a couple of rolling hills, ridges due north of 18 which one reached ~700ft if include tree tops...yet this is not noted in charts I guess due to being 1-2 miles...Bham's natural terrain is rolling, foothills to the Appalachian mountains...So fluctuations of few hundred to 720ft can be realized if include trees...Runway 18 is dipped into a little valley down the backside of one of these ridges..with a couple more ridges occurring on approach...while 06/24 threshold's can be continually seen by a commercial or private pilot on a short or long final ---the same is not true for runaway 18. Based on my flying experience (albeit a Cessna 182-Cessna 210) & with information I know of this accident, IMO this was strictly pilot error by wanting to simply "get ahead" of schedule and not doing homework about 18..meaning they were not familiar with the terrain specific to 18--as stated on approach to 18 the "rolling hill" which slopes down to 18's threshold...If landing in a Lear 45 or Challenger 300 will get the "ALTITUDE-ALTITUDE" warning alarm blasting in your ears...as the altimeter would drop by ~650-700ft ...Other considerations were UPS didnt want to get stuck behind FEDEX (yes seriously due to the one taxiway to the CARGO area of airport which is right off the taxiway of a 18 landing vs having a long taxi distance/time, potentially other ground traffic & being positioned behind the Fed-Ex plane that had decided to wait to land on the primary runway 06/24) calm winds, good weather, perfect temps no traffic really-as I believe this accident occurred ~0500-0530hrs -So with all this in mind it seems to me the pilots decided to simply perform a visual VFR type landing on 18---with it still being dark this "hill" jumped up and grabbed them---For those of us who landed on 18 @ night by visual or a VFR landing--on approach to 18 pilot will see the PAPI lights--think all is good, will see the runway lights and then "poof" if too low there is nothing-PAPI disappear, runway lights vanish etc until pass over the ridge line and it comes back into view...Due to NO PANIC SOUNDS IN COCKPIT, not transmissions at all w ATC or even between pilots, interesting no WARNING ALARMS however--not even a last second scream from pilots...I don't think they ever saw the ridge or trees they crashed into...thinking they had 700+ ft to spare---also believe this bc after the accident the slope at the 18 end of runway was graded down significantly, the ridge where the crash occurred was also cleared of trees and graded to a lower elevation...if these didn't factor into the crash then those actions wouldn't been taken..also, far as ATC people and ground people--again--it is early morning--ATC gives thumbs up to land 18--no distress calls, nothing out of ordinary until someone says...did u see that..the "that" was a bright glow...also there were people who live adjacent to airport who were woken by the sound of impact and the bright flash of light from fireball...so it was closer than 3 miles away...perhaps initial impact was 3 miles but they didn't crash vertically...was on their glideslope (or what should have been) so the plane hit tree's top of ridge and some pieces scattered 1/2 mile away or further ..lastly, the ridge were plane crashed is completely obscured to anyone in the BHM Tower ...Far as they go, yes sounds bad but BHM approach (ATC) gives clearance to land 18 he doesn't have a visual on the plane...doesn't hear any distress, warnings or indicators the plane had taken out the top of the ridge and left a 1/2 mile long swath ..in fact there is another ridge/hill directly across 06/24 which the tower is centered up with on its south side facing North to view 06/24 and the crash site was blocked by couple ridges---crash site in the ~2 oclock position from tower looking North...not sure what report said but no doubt in my mind with all this is they were much lower than should have been not realizing they didn't have the buffer zone they thought w respect to elevation
Schlomo Weissbergman-Goldsteinwitz, Ph.D. (2 months ago)
Depcom (8 months ago)
I had some packages on that flight. I didn't get them.
ohabanero (9 months ago)
Its a damn shame. If you read the wiki link in the video the pilots association tried suing the FAA because of a cargo crew rest requirement exemption. They lost in federal court due to cost and benefit analysis. Basically the pilots lives on a cargo ship are not enough people to care about. Damn shame. The pilots may well have been responsible for their own lack of rest but the law should cover all commercial flight crew. Not just passenger jets!
MHG USA (9 months ago)
Red bird sounded like an fucking idiot
TheBeingReal (10 months ago)
Lots of packages lost too.
Tom Jones (10 months ago)
As a pilot , I understand the industry push for "gender diversity" this creates a form of affirmative action that places under qualified personnel in to the cockpit for the sake of social engineering. A similar experience occured to F14 pilot call sign "revlon" Lt. Kara Spears Hultgreen who died crashing her F14 in a pure pilot error move attempting to land on USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72). She had blown her approach and performed maneuvers in the go around specifically cautioned against in training and manuals. This resulted in the death of an otherwise talented individual who was underqualified. CDR Tom Sobiek, commanding officer of Fighter Squadron VF-124, stated "the women are going to graduate regardless of how they performed" and that "the Navy was in a race with the Air Force to get the first female fighter pilot". ANYTIME you have affirmative action you extract meritocracy from the equation...and people die. When I used to fly in Africa, I was shocked to see that some passengers would NOT fly with a black pilot. While ridiculous at first consideration; I realize that there position was based on the desire for the airlines to promote black pilots often at the risk of proper qualifications. I have flown with many women, black and asian pilots. I find all equally capable if they exit a training system that is unbiased and based on true merit and performance. Affirmative action only promotes the logically derived concept of human inferiority based or race or gender and should be dismantled.
aintplaying games (1 month ago)
Tom Jones, This is the bad thing about affirmative action. It actually creates fear in some people. There are great pilots of all races and both sexes. I never met a transgender yet, but that is another subject. AA has created doubt in the minds of people. Did he/she get promoted because they are the best or is the company trying to be PC and or avoid a lawsuit , or is this something of a marketing plan to get more minorities to use the product of flying? I don`t care what the pilot is, I just want the best because I want to live to see another day. I admire both the UPS pilots and they may have been the best, but because of AA, doubts exist in many minds. I personally think they were the best, but not because of AA.
bassbone52 (10 months ago)
Glad my shit wasn’t on that plane
Robert Braun (11 months ago)
So what do you clowns have to say about the crashes involving men? Like Western Airlines 2605?? I'll wait...
grooveclubhouse (9 months ago)
You are correct sir. I have amended my prior comment.
Robert Braun (9 months ago)
grooveclubhouse that still doesn't explain anything. And I need numbers from you, if you will.
grooveclubhouse (9 months ago)
Mechanical or weather related usually. <---Edit: (Disclaimer: grooveclubhouse is an unpaid actor and not a professional pilot nor does he have any background, training, or qualifications in aviation. However he did fly a kite once in a strong wind. Statements made by him are not the opinion of this channel or it's affiliates and is intended as a form of satire. Please consult your professional aviation expert before taking any action. If your erection last longer than 4 hours please seek medical attention. Product is flammable and is known by the state of California to cause cancer, lymphoma, and drowsiness. Do not read comments while driving or operating heavy machinery. Keep away from children and small pets.)
triplanelover (11 months ago)
duh...........who was the female on the redbird?   duh,  which way did he go George, which way?
Chris Johnson (1 year ago)
I hope Redbird got fired for being such am idiot!
Seth Bergile (1 year ago)
What a shit show!!!
CNT (1 year ago)
- The aircraft is not coming to the airport. - So it's already crashed? - Affirmative Could have being worse for 4:40 am
Shamayah David (1 year ago)
Chinese fire drill at best!
Edfromchowderheads (1 year ago)
You can almost hear him stuttering and breaking down a bit in his voice, very upsetting...
FujiR500 (7 months ago)
Yes, when a controller looses an aircraft in his or her sector of airspace, it can become nerve racking to the point of nervous breakdown because of Pilot/Controller responsibilities. This is the same feelings and emotions Capt. Sully/FO Skiles and the Controllers faced when they had to land that plane in the Hudson. Its the responsibility on your shoulder coupled with all the time, money and years invested into a career such as this. The FAA and NTSB looks at Pilots and Controllers like a piece of meat. That is, they are there to find fault and prove liability, just like a prosecutor. They are not there to help. One minute, you're happy, at the job of your dreams, earning a decent salary with great benefits...life is good and orderly. Then the next, you're in a legal battle with the FAA, NTSB, angry people and others who are filing suit because they feel they were wronged or injured somehow and NOBODY is there for you and all you worked for all those years is on the line......Knowing that, a nervous tremble is in the voice is just the beginning. Never the less, he instantly regathered himself and kept doing his job....I can only imagine what ISN'T going though his head at that moment.....
James Murphy (1 year ago)
For everyone bashing them for being females just an FYI, 100% of UPS pilots have bachelors degrees and 30% of them have masters degrees and 100% of them have more brain cells than the morons commenting on this video. All the pilots are very capable.
Kent Jarvis (19 days ago)
Digitalbumpin I doubt the likes of you ever met anyone with a masters degree lol.
Erin Rink (8 months ago)
Uh, yeah. It's a REQUIREMENT for airline pilots to have a 4 year bachelor degree.
MrStig691 (8 months ago)
Meaning they don't have degrees dipshit.
MrStig691 (8 months ago)
No they don't you fucking idiot.
Digitalbumpin (8 months ago)
Like fucking hell they have more brain cells. You can run your mouth all you want you goddamn weak beta male but women are not equal in any way. Now fuck off. Some of the dumbest people I have ever met had masters degrees so shut your mouth.
no one (1 year ago)
I worked this crash
0prahTV (1 year ago)
My new pocket pussy was on that plane, being shipped from Amazon. It never arrived, and I didn't get a refund either. Weak!
Dennis Mayfield (1 year ago)
Two people died. Not funny. But one day you will mature, everyone does.
Mott Hoople (1 year ago)
I work for that company and knew the crew may you burn at some point in your life or in death in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dexmond817 (1 year ago)
0prahTV wtfffff
Dean Fuller (1 year ago)
Is he the only man who works at that airport?
Him Bike (4 months ago)
At 4am yes
aloha from kenya (11 months ago)
Dean Fuller yes when hes off the airport closes
Tom A (1 year ago)
Tragic accident and I feel sad for the crew.  I  feel like "Alice in wonderland"  when I read some of the comments that people have posted about a FEMALE pilot being involved.  This crew made mistakes that I have seen before in my experience that did not result in a fatality and automation is a big part of how the airplane is flown in today's environment.  There are beneficial things to be derived from this accident and I am hopeful that the NTSB [ safety Board ] explanation should be the focus of the presentation.
Tom A (1 year ago)
There are few Females in airline cockpits and I am sure each one can tell quite a story about what they went through to get to that point.
HiddenWindshield (1 year ago)
Bah, they (well, most of them) are just trolls who know that blatant sexism is an easy way to get attention.
Tom A (1 year ago)
I will Defend to the END the Female first officer aboard the aircraft. Her loss was tragic and she presented a professional image of herself in her communications to air traffic control.  Although I am reluctant to separate the work on the flight deck as being anything else but a crew product;  the Female first officer was not at the controls and had to complete the checklists and radio communications simultaneously. She was possibly not fully aware of the errors in the Flight Management Computer and to a lesser extent was operating with a more seasoned Captain at the controls.
James Anthony (1 year ago)
Ops certainly wasn't in a hurry were they? I never heard of the airport staying open during an active crash. And the dope in OPS 27 is an IDIOT
Pickman (1 year ago)
Crash wasn't on the airport
Allec Joshua Ibay (1 year ago)
The crash occurred about a mile from the airport. No need to close the airport.
elireloaded (1 year ago)
Female pilots eh?
Mike Spector (6 months ago)
Fuck you
dks13827 (9 months ago)
The standards for non white males is lowered. Very dangerous.
Trip (1 year ago)
NorthEast, he did.
CNT (1 year ago)
Allec, please made a video of it, love your videos. Thank you!
Trip (1 year ago)
Allec Joshua Ibay, Oh, Hi! I'm a big fan of your videos!
Bobby Paluga (2 years ago)
The coordination is pitiful, a specific alarm is normally initiated the fire brigade is out of their hanger and moving to a coordinate on a chart. This is a joke. The go time is supposed to be out of the fire station within 30 seconds. At PNX, DEN, LAS, SLC that I have toured. It's a UPS, but there could be 6-8 personal onboard, in addition to valuable cargo and some cargo that in a fire could release dangerous fumes, explosives lithium batteries. TV news copters likely got to the scene first while these crazy of bastards were twiddling their thumbs.
Hugo S (2 years ago)
FedEx had a crash also with a female pilot. Same with Colgan 3407. When you consider how few female pilots there are, they seem to show up a lot in air disasters at a far greater rate than their participation rate in the industry. The reality is the standards for women are quietly lowered in order to appease the SJW movement. And try firing one. Well, they did fire one. The female pilot that landed her Southwest 737 on the nose wheel first.
anononomous (7 months ago)
You lost me at "seem to". You got any stats to back that up sonny?
Solomon Pilot (9 months ago)
N Lee (10 months ago)
I’ll tell you what makes the difference - it’s the type of plane not the gender of the pilots. It’s another Airbus accident. I refuse to fly Airbus if I can. Boeing all the way for me.
shalic graw (1 year ago)
Ninedaysjane (1 year ago)
Statistically, this is bullshit. Look at the 100 deadliest crashes. Not a woman to be found. I fucking how misogynist pieces of shit show up on EVERY FUCKING AVIATION VIDEO!
markatl84 (2 years ago)
Redbird checking in here. Did someone say there was an accident? Hello?
Schlomo Weissbergman-Goldsteinwitz, Ph.D. (2 months ago)
Gee I wonder.
jamesbulldogmiller (7 months ago)
J K it wasn't covered up locally. The pilot flew into the hillside north of runway 18, The landing gear damaged rooftops of houses and trees. The accident, clean up, and investigation was well reported in local news. Why the national didn't pick it up, is not my story to tell.
Birmingham-Rail Productions. (2 years ago)
still curious why did they land on that short runway over the hill when they always take te long run way running east to west. they fly over my house every morning coming from the east landing around 430-5am. sucks
jamesbulldogmiller (7 months ago)
there was scheduled maintenance on the east/west runway at the time.
Birmingham-Rail Productions. (2 years ago)
Paul Jenkins i heard, sucks
Paul Jenkins (2 years ago)
runway was closed at the time.
Birmingham-Rail Productions. (2 years ago)
+tom Dilbert true I heard and found it it was closed and opened after the crash sadly. wish they waited or something
Laverne Johnson (2 years ago)
As you can hear that the runway 6/24 was closed. But only for another 15 minutes. The FedEx jet waited for the runway to open. UPS accepted the the approach to runway 18. Just s localizer , bad decision
OneBlooEye (2 years ago)
Good LORD Redbird! Put that Natty Ice down & listen!
Master AKC (8 months ago)
The aircraft is not coming to the airport....
JetMechMA (3 years ago)
GEEEZ, that one emergency responder was really slow on the uptake. Even maintenance troops listen on frequency and know what's going on. Don't those guys have their ears on?.... for crying out loud.
Pickman (1 year ago)
It was 4:40 in the morning. It's completely easy to mentally checkout on the graveyard shift when you expect nothing to happen, not a good mentality to have as an emergency responder though.
Carla Gonçalves (3 years ago)
It must be a shock when you work at a Control Tower and see a crash.... the man really sounds nervous... 
vonmazur1 (4 years ago)
"Just head up to Tarrant Huffman Road, you can't miss the fire..."  I love the FD asking if it crashed...
Rodney Hayes (4 years ago)
As a former Radio operator with numerous law enforcement agencies, I can tell you that it can get very busy in a nanosecond when disaster happens.  It is imperative that you somehow keep the "big picture" in your head at al times.  The ATC was initially caught off guard but made the switch to emergency mode very smoothly.  Kudoos.