Oct.17 -- Tesla's Model 3 boasts the best technology and motor of any electric vehicle, but a team of engineers in Detroit say there's a major flaw in the car's design that's hurting Tesla's profit margins. Bloomberg Television's Ed Ludlow reports.
Everyone outside the blue bubble knows Tesla is a battery maker trying to build cars. So no surprise that the batteries are top notch & the body is shit. Looks great but has the build quality of a Yugo. I only see them near large cities where that instant torque is useless but status among your liberal peers is everything.
unboxing theboxx (9 hours ago)
Philosopher of Nonsense (12 hours ago)
They don't now what kind of motor it is? Duh, it's a 3-phase, delta-wound, DC brushless, switched-reluctance motor. But maybe I'm jaded because I know these kinds of things. Also, who was the baboon who removed the motor? Looking at 3:15 you can see the gougings of a moron with a prybar on the mating surface. So what if they had no intention of putting it back, but if you cannot remove it properly, then leave it to someone who can.
Emo Teofanov (20 hours ago)
0:56 "...This is the reason that I feel - the Oil industry has problems, and that's why the scared Petro-Fascists are financing such propaganda videos."
😁 😃 😇
Yep, during the last 110,000 km I travelled with my electric car, I stopped at the petrol station exactly 4 times - 3 times to buy fluid for the wipers, and the last time only to use the toilet. (It felt really nice to şhïť on the dying oil industry.)
Jaxx Brat (23 hours ago)
Reverse this 👍
Benjamin C (1 day ago)
Hilarious, all the Tesla owners defending their brand.
Eggpie_614 (1 day ago)
Ima buy a Volvo instead
Juan Moreno (1 day ago)
Pure jelous, didn't aprob any single screw on the tesla
Henry (2 days ago)
I see a lot of comments from people here who don't seem to understand the analysis was about making the car more efficiently. Simplifying processes to reduce the amount of labor needed for assembly. As said in the video, the car is not as efficient to build as a comparable car. It's a great car, that has room for improvement. A more efficient assembly process could not only increase profits but reduce the price of the car.
Nathan Stubbs (2 days ago)
Really, I quit watching after he complained about how well the TESLA body was built. Sandy, just shut up.
Alexandros Mpougas (2 days ago)
Epic fail oil industries paying these people to discredit electric vehicles.
Andrew Stone (3 days ago)
Why do they keep showing a model S when they are talking about the model 3?? Hacks. I am sure there are some improvements Tesla can make, but this just seems like Ford/GM paid them for this
Jeff Smith (3 days ago)
"The body is to stiff" loooooolllll. Never heard of suspension?
Jeff Smith (3 days ago)
This is a bullshit video!!
Ellsworth M. Toohey (3 days ago)
Thumb up ! THIS IS A REAL ENGINEER ! And he is RIGHT ! The Tesla body is a complex assembly of parts likely to RUST at the joints, EXPENSIVE ! A SHAME ! Too much rigidity means METAL FATIGUE WHERE STRESS GET CONCENTRATED, LESSER ABILITY TO ABSORB impact in an accident !
R Tegland (3 days ago)
Let me guess, some batteries? A couple electric motors ? Why do you need an engineer to see that
Nickie McNichols (3 days ago)
Why all the lying?
Jay Kay (3 days ago)
4:08 "These are Neodiddium magnets." Think he means Neodymium
Joseph Matthews (3 days ago)
Tesla is bad because the employ many good people?
TheRealEst (3 days ago)
This channel is a fucking joke. Model S on the thumbnail not 3
Jim Stack (3 days ago)
Monroe is last century. It's the safest car ever made. He knows nothing about today's cars.
If he's so smart where is his sold out car?
Tim Flohr (3 days ago)
That motor is awfully... Exciting...
KonaMark (3 days ago)
Well, that was a bit of a goat-screw, eh Bloomberg?
Soren Lofstedt (3 days ago)
Why do you have to run background music throughout the entire video? I have impaired hearing and the music makes it almost impossible to catch anything said in the video!
Flotilda Vasquez (4 days ago)
Isn’t that good that it’s so stiff I mean wouldn’t that protect you if you got into an accident why are they complaining about that
David Womack (4 days ago)
Follow the money, and you will have your answer.
pjdambra (4 days ago)
All those build issues have been addressed and corrected just judging from the production numbers late 18. I test drove and immediately ordered my Tesla. Bought Fords my entire life. This car will be my Last.
commandersprocket (4 days ago)
I would be interested to know if the fewer body panels that they suggest require more complex stamping equipment. Tesla may be using more (but smaller) stamping presses for their vehicle design because they know that stamped steel will become obsolete once fleet buyers are dominant and those buyers will demand composite bodies to save fuel. When your car has a lifecycle of 200k mile over 15 years it doesn't pay to spend an extra 5k on the body, but if that same vehicle is used in a self driving vehicle fleet and has a 10 year 2.5 million mile life, an extra reduction of 20-30% in fuel costs (at .11 a mile) makes financial sense (a 20% fuel savings would save 55k in fuel costs).
School of Peterson (4 days ago)
The fame is "too complex" and is "poor quality" yet it has the most incredible safety rating in the market. Okay...
Anbu8366 (4 days ago)
As an engineering student that also has some manufacturing experience, a lot of engineers dont know how to make their designs “user friendly”. Youll see things like engineers using screws that virtually no one uses or designs that are way too complex. I still think that Tesla’s are real piece of innovation because of just purely their battery.
marko polo (4 days ago)
Just like Chevy or Ford to build something cheap that's their problem we buyers do not want cheap cars we want a car that is put together solid and that's why this video was put out October and Tesla Model 3 sales went through the roof for September A. I will never buy another Ford. B. I will never buy another Chevy C. I'm only buying Tesla. Thats why I am smooking all these gas cars on the Highway on and in the rain my model S never slides at 120 MPH LOLOL IN car accidents Tesla's
RULE in every category. Look at all these hating ass car companies trying to play catch up it's too late now wayyyy to late if you reading this don't buy nothing but Tesla because you know the car companies are going to try to copy and make electric cars but they cannot use Tesla charging stations. Game over
John Kellogg (4 days ago)
Tesla Model S! Not model 3. Also the Chevrolet in the video is a Volt, not a bolt.
Mark Tate (4 days ago)
This really come across as very biased, that engineer did not explain a single thing, all he did was give opinions without any form of validation. Engineers who say something is not right and then offer no explanation as to why it is not right are rather crappy engineers, of course I would not be surprised if he did but the editors cut it because he may have said something they did not like that made Tesla look good... TBH after watching this I would never have an electric car no matter how well it is made.. other than my RC buggy that is but even then I would rather gas or nitro :)
Alan Myers (4 days ago)
The comments all miss the point. He's not saying it's a poorly built car. He's saying it's too well built for them to make a profit.
Johan Smith (4 days ago)
Wonder if they were happy with the Audi R8 not being to stiff. You know the one that "body in white" breaks apart after a few years?
Anti Troll (4 days ago)
Some people just can take critique from experienced.
bracikmen (4 days ago)
yep a good ol american car would have just one part wheel well, probably plastic...and probably shit...like the rest of typical american cars
Thien Tang (4 days ago)
Car built for performance and they complain about chassis stiffness? Fail. Fastening methods are a science in itself so unless these guys can prove why adhesion materials vs. nuts and bolts have any less/more advantages they fail again. Not a fan of tesla yet but come on.
Riad Ahmed (4 days ago)
i am suppose to a tesla official spokes man(hahahehe) lets reply sir sandy munro . MR Sandy munro miss understood the total concept of our tesla because what we understand tesla is the beginning of robotic transport . Tesla is not a conventional vehicle it is a robot as a vehicle and there is misslead the whole thing .
sleekitwan (4 days ago)
i think they did a good job of the teardown, and although it can be criticised in production engineering terms, going by the general and conventional standards of the auto industry, it ends up being a backhanded compliment. In a nutshell, here's what makes the Tesla: it is built to the standard required by the fact an EV will typically have a life span of twice that of an ICE vehicle - gasoline or diesel. What kills cars, is 90% engine and transmission failures, at an age where the car is no longer economic to repair. Electric vehicles as pioneered by Tesla, have only a simple reduction gear as their transmission. The motor has one moving part - the rotor in the middle. Internal combustion engines have maybe 200 moving parts.
The transmission has maybe three gearwheels plus a differential, so that's less than 10 moving parts I think all-in. My standard ford-style or Borg-warner/GM/other transmission on my 5-pot diesel Volvo has umpteen clutches and gears and two big impellers...I am guessing about 100 moving parts plus complex electronics and software so it is not simple.
It is time to accept, that maybe a car like this, is more like a home, than a conventional car. Indeed, with software upgrades it can become more efficient with age. Battery advances too. An ICE auto is fundamentally locked into its era of technology. Predict the end for them - 5 years? Could it be as much as ten years? The EV has no end point. The conventional auto-builders are building to a design standard now obsolete, for cars with a ten-year lifespan only. This car, might well continue until metal fatigue sets in - hence the body build is so high on quality and low on production engineering 'efficiency'.
You can spend 40k easily on a VW or Audi new - compare it with what you buy into with a EV such as Tesla, or many others. They have to be stronger to carry the battery tray underneath the cabin, it all fits. The critique is correct, within the confines of present old-automaker 'norms'. There is a new normal however, and Tesla have blueprinted it for all to follow - exactly as Elon Musk wanted. There are few losers with the new way of doing things - even the admission it takes more employees is actually an argument for this new way of going about manufacturing surely?
Stu Pid (5 days ago)
Tesla will have way more problems than that when people will start driving these non-waterproof high voltage things in water and snow. They have very nice product for summer weekend drives...😜😎
m w (5 days ago)
The carframe is very bad,.....oh wait....but is the the savest car on the planet......find the error...
janschutz174 (5 days ago)
Oh yeah, American car makers telling ANYBODY how not to do things is a fucking joke. My American made car is in the shop fyi. All the time!!!!
Mark H (5 days ago)
This is simply an opportunity for the Bloomberg media empire to slime Elon Musk. Knit-picking bean counters are uncomfortable with real genius.
Butch Gaudy (5 days ago)
Laurie Harper (5 days ago)
So Tesla could "lose" 30% of its staff? Throw more people on the scrapheap? You can piss off, Bloomberg.
minsboy (6 days ago)
Me personally i like tesla and i was thinking about buying one, but the problem is that they start to break down at 120,000+ miles and they dont have 3rd party repair shops to deal with issues that the car has meaning you have go go straight up to the dealer and pay a shit ton of money to repair the car, tesla says that they make good efficient cats but they are not reliable, dont get me wrong what they are doing is great but they need to find a way to fix this problem and provide 3rd party repair shops to help customers fix there problems with the car instead of just paying a shit ton of money to repair one little button.
skuzzle butt (6 days ago)
I like the comments, they show how blind circle jerks don't care about anything they see just what they want to like. Well guess what, Tesla is one of the worlds worst reliable car manufacturers.
Slo_Rx8 (6 days ago)
That’s a model S not a 3
Josh R (6 days ago)
This video is about the model 3 but the thumbnail is a model S. Also when are people going to realize Tesla isn't a traditional car company which what makes them as unique as they are. Try your slander campaign when you get your shit together.
David Coleman (6 days ago)
Sounds like another KILL the TUCKER deal. The BIG THREE afraid of a BETTER CAR.
The Federal Farmer (6 days ago)
2:59 So there are what, like 600,000 AA batteries in a Tesla?
h1dden (6 days ago)
These guys seem fun at parties...
Fahd Azad (6 days ago)
elon musk gg
Bart Mista (6 days ago)
LMFAO is this video for real? You guys are a joke.
rcmanization (6 days ago)
so many fanboys in the comment section. Biased
Tom Vorat (6 days ago)
Kind of sad...
Aureir (6 days ago)
its model s not model 3
besser32 (7 days ago)
The body is over built for a 5 star crash rating
Ziod (7 days ago)
It's called a Permanent Magent Synchronous Machine (no analysis required). Its called the "hall effect" not "hell back effect". They are called "neodymium" magnets not "neodydium". This review is a joke.
Hassan Mohammad (7 days ago)
You’re wrong about the model and it’s info you should’ve deleted the video
Joseph Reed (7 days ago)
This is complete rubbish, don't waste your time watching, here's the summary, if only tesla sold out to inferior car companies like chevy, this car would be brilliant. They use too many parts on the body
Danny Saunders (7 days ago)
So they steal others companies technology then trash talk the company.
Sam Prelewicz (7 days ago)
That’s a model s not a model 3
mikeyBIA (7 days ago)
Tesla die hards in this comment section. It says tesla are ahead of the game with everything apart from the body because its far too complex? Id say thats a huge compliment? Tesla are very new and efficiency will take time to get right and this sort of critical analysis is exactly what tesla need. Jesus listening to musks bum squad is painful
cley123 (7 days ago)
I thought the stiffer a cars body the better, most manufacturers boast about their cars body stiffness.
Michael Bodine (8 days ago)
monocoque frame; typical sealed wheelWELL; CRUmpLE zones correctly designed ;
FRAME TO weight ratio necessary for BATTERY wgt; &;<>))
Michael Bodine (8 days ago)
Great BOSCH ALTERNATOR with
Adolfo (8 days ago)
Bloomberg. Jewish crap. Always. And overpriced.
Herbert West (8 days ago)
Tesla was under tremendous pressure to get the model 3 to market. I wonder how much of the design was meant to be improved along the way?
ritz hanson (8 days ago)
Halo Wars (8 days ago)
Chevrolet are better by far!!
Halo Wars (8 days ago)
Wow so many Elon Musk butt lickers in the comments section 🙄
Dude (8 days ago)
Bean counters... and hence not billionaires. Sitting on the shoulders of giants. Reverse engineering generally equals stealing other people's ideas... but clearly there is market and perhaps a pension in it. Not inspired. Snore.
Phillip Piper (8 days ago)
Eric Hawk (8 days ago)
Perhaps a bigger problem will be VW selling a vehicle comparable to the Model 3 for $23,000 (max price), at a loss, due to government mandates. Perhaps VW can eat the loss, but Tesla might not be able to lower the Model 3 price (target: $35,000) to a ballpark of $25,000 and survive very long. Article below (Note: the author is shorting Tesla):
Phillip Piper (8 days ago)
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News Of the World (8 days ago)
Michael Stewart (8 days ago)
LoL car body to stiff, last time i checked thats what you want in a car. Also why compare Tesla to Ford. Fords are ancient and Teslas are the Future benchmark for modern cars..
Don farlan (8 days ago)
They found a delorian
michael allen (8 days ago)
The last thing Elon Musk needs to do is halt production to wait on adding the next "latest and greatest".
I know of no TESLA ow ner who is satisfied with their TESLA. They LOVE their TESLAS.
The fact that TESLA partnered with Panasonic on battery design, shows how smart they are. Panasonic makes some of the best consumer batteries i.e.: ENLOOP
I kick myself for not buying TESLA stock when it dropped 15% before its latest jump.
Neodydium magnets are common in lower high end stereo speakers.
Dan Erlich (8 days ago)
which is why Tesla skyrockets to building the 19th best selling car... in the shortest time EVER... This car has MAJOR implications for the world... and everyone was all over Musk for it... he did an AMAZING job and everyone else who is building disposable crap had best emulate him very quickly or go out of business in very short order...
Dan Erlich (8 days ago)
The so called problem that Sandy Munro identifies... is the very reason to buy the car... unlike the crap that Toyota or GM or Ford or anyone else produces... Tesla produces a durable, safe vehicle that will go on and provide the consumer service for decades... what he sees as a negative ... is one of the specific reasons to buy this car... building a better car will make it last LONGER and savings on not having to buy cars two, three and four.. will pay off huge... Tesla got it right.. everyone else got it wrong... including Sandy Munroe...
MrTubularBalls (8 days ago)
4:17 I couldn't make out what effect he's talking about. Until I figured out he's pronouncing it wrong, it's spelled Halbach, the "ch" is not pronounced as a "k" but is a guttural sound, like the "ch" in chromosome.
Halbach arrays are not exactly new, first dicovered in 1973, rediscovered in 1980s and used in particle accelerators, refrigerator magnets, Maglev trains and.. (as Halbach cylinders) in brushless AC motors:
Btw what a shitty video.
jMGutierrez (8 days ago)
TESLA is the Best !!!!! 👌
Paul Skopic (8 days ago)
Always remember that the big name car companies put out perfectly designed cars every time.
Zephyr (8 days ago)
Here YouTube I fucking watched it
Tristan Albertson (8 days ago)
Thats not a 3, that an Model S
Jason Gooden (9 days ago)
looks like a Model S to me.
Bob Boberson (9 days ago)
That music is absolutely AWFUL. Wow.
BallpointPen (9 days ago)
"His latest project, Tesla's Model 3"(Drives in the Model S)
Garl Margs (9 days ago)
the number of muskbots in the comments...
Al Briano (9 days ago)
Take it easy all you LIBERALS..you all know NOTHING about this kinda stuff.
Achilleas Labrou (9 days ago)
Tesla is the most innovative car company. When Tesla started every other car manufacturer didn't bother with the massive production of electric cars. Now nearly every car manufacturer is interested. Of course Tesla doesn't have the experience of BMW in massive car production.
Tesla cars aren't affordable cars and I doubt that will ever be. Certainly not cars for everyone.
JKOtv LITE (9 days ago)
To me, the BMW i3 is just a joke it looks stupid and drives stupid. Id rather buy a Renault Zoe than this. At least their higher end E-Cars are decent the i7 and i8.
b00geyman1 (9 days ago)
"This video approved by the Internal Combustion Conglomerate. "
mad4tarmac (9 days ago)
talk about scare tactics...are the big car makers worried!!! damn right...oil is big bizz,no wonder these fucking idiots try to put it down...we can see right through you lying fuckwits
Callum0808 (9 days ago)
Its legit just like an old guy rambling why technology is bad.
Guillaume Buron (9 days ago)
I don't understand all the wannabe engineer (or perhaps just Tesla fanboys?) in the comments: you have to acknowledge that the car frame is a mess and industrialization feels rushed. Otherwise they praise the impressive features so why so salty guys? (By an actual engineer)