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THE TRUTH ABOUT UPS EMPLOYEES & WORKING FOR UPS

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I had some questions about what it was like working with the people at UPS, and suffice it to say, they were a strange bunch!
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Gerald Hogan (4 days ago)
This guy must be a part time and if this guy thinks you can make a living just 60 hrs per month, Try working at Walmart
Chris Garcia (5 days ago)
If you don’t like working hard than why even consider working for UPS? Stop bitching and go work for Bath & Body Works
Bill Estrem (15 days ago)
This guy is obviously a disgruntled employee... you cannot just say this about all the hubs across the country.
Jacob Gross (15 days ago)
I noticed a few guys who Definitely looked like they were on some major stimulants
Emmanuel Goldstein (27 days ago)
If I worked myself to death in a hot warehouse all day and hated my job, I wouldn't care how I smelled either.
Gerry Mcs (1 month ago)
Good i find it !!
Brandon Mitchell (1 month ago)
Been there for two years I’m on a five truck drop every other day and I make about $235 a week to break my back
Coffee Talk (1 month ago)
Ouch!
TheVikingsCentral (1 month ago)
Fist fight at my hub the other day
TheVikingsCentral (1 month ago)
The union employees are a complete mess
CredibleCommenter (2 months ago)
This guy is toxic. Shit running through his veins.
Jason B (2 months ago)
You are by far the most negative person. Being Depressed and trying to bring others down about UPS does not work. You were never a driver and have no idea only part time work. Hope you grew up and became positive since this video years back
Coffee Talk (2 months ago)
The video is not about driving jobs.
Peanut Cheerio (2 months ago)
UPS employees can be so rude! One person yelled super loud saying our house looks trashy when it was obvious people were home. Another time same thing happened but with my dogs. We're truly appalled.
Peanut Cheerio (2 months ago)
Coffee Talk it can happen really wherever but ty
Coffee Talk (2 months ago)
Sorry you had that experience
TacticalMP (2 months ago)
Sounds like Earth City UPS lol
Keonee Walker (5 days ago)
TacticalMP Hey I work at Earth City UPS in St. Louis as a seasonal driver. My driver supervisor was an asshole
krizpal1083 (2 months ago)
I work for UPS and I really don't mind... started working there when I was 22 yrs old and now I have a few years on my seniority belt. This job is definitely not for everyone, I've seen alot of people quit and get fired but that's how life is✌🏽
krizpal1083 (2 months ago)
Coffee Talk thank you
Coffee Talk (2 months ago)
Glad it worked out for you
Bubba Jenkins (2 months ago)
As an ups employee I call BS on at least half of this testimonial. Plz know what your talking about when spreading "NEWS"
Brian Fuller (2 months ago)
So many people at UPS are high daily.
Coffee Talk (2 months ago)
Seemed that way to me..
wkeyser0024 (2 months ago)
Ten years strong. It ain't for everyone. But work is work, if it wasn't they wouldn't pay us.
keeping IT REAL88 (2 months ago)
And everything he says is absolutely true! I resign tommorow
Matt Younis (2 months ago)
Great video by Negan
Cyberbob (3 months ago)
Take your job away and you'll cry about that.
Boujee Garcia (3 months ago)
@Kos22us you sound like a *ucking Scab snitch *itch. Everything that guy said true other than the drug thing and you know. So go back in the office get on your little tablet and keep harassing your employees like you do everyday. Oh Yeah I'll Be over 9.5 today *itch.
Mike Bittinger (3 months ago)
This guy sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee
juan negrete (3 months ago)
Soft ass mf.Ur dumb ass hell.You only lasted 2 months.You know nothing about Ups
Jeremy Dresser (3 months ago)
Stop taking shit jobs then. No background check and minimum wage, what do you expect? College educated graduates? Lol. Drivers make 36 an hour, nobody comes in drunk or high. Loader is the most underpaid shit job at ups. Most only do it because it’s part time in the early morning and have another job and or go to school.
Aquarius (3 months ago)
I worked in two UPS facilities, Early in my career my first UPS Hub was a very small center, Tight-nit, special favors (in terms of drivers helping their friends with excess stops or pick/up stops) Management screwing over drivers who were the best workers & taking care of the ones who would file grievances with the union for excess work. A few years ago I transferred to a very large UPS Hub that feels completely different, when I show up for work I never talk to co-workers or Mgmt. Dispatches are all configured with computers, It is a fireable offense to remove packages from your truck or swap stops with another driver. Before we leave the facility in the morning every driver downloads His/Her entire Route into their handheld device DIAD( Deliver, Information, Acquisition, Device). Every single action you make once you scan the packages barcode is overseen by managment on the computer in their office & your truck is being tracked by GPS every minute of the day, Also, the entire (Package Car) or Lehmans terms (Truck) is completely wired into a on board computer (Telematics) which sends every concievable stat directly to the mangers to scrutinize. In my opinion most of the drivers are more of the "Normal Bunch" at Ups especially the guys who are at full pay scale & have their own bid route which they do everyday, The drivers who only have a few years in are making entry level pay & are the relief or cover drivers are much worse off, they drive a different route every other day, are stressed & confused doing routes they've never been on before or the term we use is "Blind", The way I describe it is like try to remember the most chaotic moment in your life multiply it by ten & feel that way for 11/ 13 hours, Once you learn the routes obviously it does get better but the learning curve is frustrating. I recommend Velcro or tape a iPad mount to your dash using google maps, I don't recommend a paper map book they are completely worthless for me & is a pain to be flipping through pages especially in the dark !! Good luck & I hope this helps if you have UPS career aspirations.
Aquarius (1 month ago)
Hi, & I hope everything goes well for you testing, Almost every cover driver uses GPS now, Paper maps are becoming obsolete, Just make sure your device (iPad , iPhone is fixated to the dash with Velcro, you can buy velcro strips at Amazon & hardware stores, Make sure your device is hands free bluetooth is common at ups also. The second part of your question about memorizing routes is half the battle, Not to discourage you but the route your driving & how it's loaded by your minimum wage loader that was probably hired weeks or months ago is another big part of it, The new drivers usually have the highest package bulk volume & stops & just locating all the packages for that stop in the truck can be a battle, But if you can get past all that eventually you will build seniority and get your own route that you can drive everyday. Good Luck !!
Coffee Talk (3 months ago)
Thank you for your input!
Thomas Love (4 months ago)
He's wrong on every level his nose is growing like Pinocchio
Polish Hammer (6 months ago)
Every US company is committing fraud and extorts their workers. I wonder if one day We'll all revolt or continue being sheep
Miss Not Of This World (7 months ago)
That same thing is going on in my area! What a shame! UNFORTUNATELY UPS is going downhill they used to be great! Amazon has gotten bad! I guess we do need Robot Delivery Services to replace the Lousy Human workers!
Miss Not Of This World (7 months ago)
Coffee Talk I agree! If they tried treating the Robots that way they would get their heads crushed!
Coffee Talk (7 months ago)
They probably treat them like crap so they do lousy work enough to justify replacing them with robots...
Andrew k Adams (7 months ago)
You are totally wrong...they can march you out to take a drug test if they suspect that you are under the influence.
Coffee Talk (7 months ago)
Never saw it once. Unless you are talking about drivers. I can't speak too much on drivers since I didn't drive.
Ronnie Patrick (7 months ago)
He couldn’t do the job he did the right thing and quite
Coffee Talk (7 months ago)
Perhaps you could apply the same logic to your comments on YouTube and stop making any since you can't spell...
Thom John (8 months ago)
I was a UPS man for 36 years. It is a damn hard job. I had several severe injuries over the years but made it to retirement at 55. I really don't think I could have kept up the pace much longer,but today I'm happily out of there. UPS is a different world. Five days a week, soon to be six, you belong to the company. They don't care about you or your life. The packages are all that matters. It takes a kind of attitude to stay there long term. Sure the money is important and so is the insurance and other benefits. But one must find a way to deal with the stress, the very long days, the heat, the cold and all the rest. Once you figure out the truths about UPS it can be done. And that truth is that you do not matter. You take care of yourself. I used to say...UPS wants to hurt you so don't help them. By that I mean you must be strong enough to have no fear of management, take care of yourself and stay calm. I'm proud of my work at UPS and thankful as well. Working there is no treat, the days are long, I never worked an 8 hour day in my 36 years. I left home at 8:15 and returned about 9:00 PM . Never had supper until 10PM or so. It was just the way it is. You really learn that it is the strong and to survive. As for drinking and drug abuse, I found it rather rare. Those that did were eventually winnowed out. I came in a clean and pressed uniform every day. I loved my customers. And I did all I could to keep our union strong. The only way to fight was to understand the contract and be a union man.There are no lazy or incompetent drivers at UPS. They do not last. The men in brown work very hard and are generally good people. Management is different. They are owned by the company. They hate their job and take it out on the workers. I was a fighter, they were afraid on me after awhile and I had little trouble the last 15 years or so. One other truth about UPS...Honesty is respected. When you make a mistake, own up to it and you will win respect. I earned that respect. But that doesn't mean that they would throw me under the bus, they did. I just got used to the idea that it was a strange world.
Coffee Talk (8 months ago)
True enough that they don't care about you there. Thanks for some honest commentary by the way...
Thom John (8 months ago)
When I worked as a part timer at UPS, we would often wear the same clothes for days on end. The belts and the packages are so hard on your cloths that you tried to get as much out of as few as possible. By the way most the loaders in my experience loaded between 2 and four trucks. There was one Christmas that I loaded six.
Frederik Saraber (9 months ago)
Fed Ex management spends to much time trying to screw the female drivers, and half of them are married.
Frederik Saraber (9 months ago)
Fed Ex needs a union point blank, we tried to get the U.A.W. back in 1993 but failed.
Rob K (9 months ago)
BOYCOTT UPS and you will affect change.
Rob K (9 months ago)
You drive on a toll road because it is the only road (a monopoly) the good news is we have other options to ship items: ie FedEx, USPS, DHL . It is simply making another choice. People have been asking for labeling of GMO's. It is really simpler than they realize. If everyone would let the Roundup sprayed GMO on the shelf until it rots, they store will have no other choice but to bring in what the consumer will buy or go out of business. GMO produce is easy to identify.(produce sticker starting with 8xxxx or 3xxx or 4xxx) Just don't buy it and the store will order in what will sell. Consumers have all the power. Grocery stores have a less than 3% markup. It would only take a month of not buying the crap and the store would be close to facing a closure. It is that tight. This would also work with UPS. We have choices and we can affect change.
Coffee Talk (9 months ago)
A lot of people would have to be on board for something like that to work, and frankly, modern people don't have the stomach for it. They hate the TSA but will still fly, hate paying tolls but still drive on the tollways, etc...
Rob K (9 months ago)
UPS drivers lie about attempting to deliver packages. The drivers never approach the door (per video) and then leave saying that "No one was home".. Bull Sh*T . Meth heads aren't known for being honest..! Boycott UPS and all Ebay sellers that use UPS for shipping.. Consumers can affect change they wan't to see in this world. Boycott what you don't like. The Universe will take care of the rest and someone that can do the job will step in and do it better..
acelakid94 (7 months ago)
I've had a similar experience. My package was out for delivery and I was home all day in the front room, which was right next to the front door of the house, and around 9:00 pm the online tracker says no one was home to accept the package. The guy never showed up. Happened with USPS too, but in that case I had to go down to the post office to actually _get_ my package. FedEx and Amazon are the only companies I haven't had any issues with.
Rob K (8 months ago)
I live in an established apartment building where UPS has the front door code to get in. I'm in a numbered unit with that number on the door. We have 3 surveilance cameras 1) outside 2)just in the lobby and 3) one in the hall in route to my apartment. My camera sitting outside my door (that was propped open all day) show that he made up a delivery attempt. The driver never even came into my building. I'm not accusing you of this. I reported what "Didn't" happen but was lied about. Please don't take it personally. If you do, tell your co-workers not to do what multiple videos on Youtube are proving is happening. I'm not the first, I won't be the last.
Thom John (8 months ago)
Did you ever think that he didn't know which door to go to? Or that you wanted him to come inside? For your edification, going into a building like a home is something only the most experienced drivers do. You must know the customer well so you are not accused of entering without permission. You can be fired for that. I will side with the UPS man on your case. To me what you have is a misunderstanding more than anything else. Besides why would the guy stop at your place of business or home and just walk away. We don't want to carry your stuff back to the truck. the center or again the next day. I find it highly unfair to deride all UPS men because you didn't get your package. I made 150-200 delivery stops a day and usually returned with one or two. In my years at UPS the number of deliveries and packages handled by the average drive more than doubled. I sure would like to take folks out with me just once to see how it all goes down.
Rob K (8 months ago)
I have it on timelapse video, the driver never came into my building, yet reported on the online tracking that they attempted and no one was home available to accept. I was home all day with a camera rolling, the office manager and assistant manager both said, UPS never came today with any packages. I sent to video to the regional PDX supervisor, and nothing was ever done. Not even an apology. I'm happy that you never faked it. Your customers got far better treatment than I ever did with UPS.. I do not believe it is the veteran drivers. It is many of the new drivers that don't realize their responsibility and obligation to uphold the contract. My best friends mother was a driver from 1970 to 2001. She knew everyone's name in our small town and everyone got their packages hand deliver with a smile. Not dropping and running the way so many do today.. My question is, What has happened to the drivers like her..?
Thom John (8 months ago)
I was a UPS Man for 36 years. I never once lied about making a delivery attempt. I never knew of any of the other 60 odd drivers in my center do so. It makes no sense to fake an attempted delivery. You just have to do it again the next day. I find it rich that folks who never worked at UPS think they know all about it.
Joshua Duarte (9 months ago)
They must of fired u.....
Coffee Talk (9 months ago)
Wasn't fired, left because of issues with payroll department.
milton gulick (9 months ago)
I know one manager of UPS I'm not saying the name but I seen him smoking marijuana at a bonfire party and asked me if he could come over my place and smoke pot I said no
Coffee Talk (9 months ago)
Smart move not inviting him in...
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
The world on time, Fed Ex is never on time because the planes are always late making everybody else late then you have pissed off customers.
jaime adametz (10 months ago)
I remember working for fed ex ground everybody there was a drug addict well maybe not everybody but my sister and friend of mine would find empty coke viles in the parking lot every day. And we got searched on the way in and the way out.That sucked.
Broken Light (10 months ago)
you look like Neagan
Broken Light (10 months ago)
I work at ups still I'm working through the peak season my belt isn't bad and my supervisor is amazing. I'm not sure about floors above me.
Coffee Talk (10 months ago)
I get that a lot...
Mike Hunt (10 months ago)
Many of the things he says are just straight up not true!! There is no way he has ever read his union book
David Lemmo (9 months ago)
What the Union says in the Contract, and how Management implements it are entirely dissimilar. My hub's management only enforces about half of the language regarding Part Time Employees. They treat us as expendable, and barely replace the ones who quit. I've seen new hires quit in a matter of days, without so much as a warning or any regard. There's no regard for the wellbeing of the employees, especially in December.
Daniel tonio (10 months ago)
I've been working for ups for 1 week an 2 days. and every thing he said is truw
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
Mike Hunt. Bullshit, I spent 24 years at Fed Ex it's all true over there.
Coffee Talk (10 months ago)
What it says on a piece of paper and how things actually work are not necessarily the same thing. Maybe it's different in your hub...
William Venson (1 year ago)
Idk our hub had a lot of pot heads but, I personally worked security at a club, got off work at 3:30 a.m. and then had to be at preload at 4a.m. I fell asleep holding boxes at times, I cursed like hell, yelled at people. My supervisor left me alone, I think he thought I was nuts because my voice was so loud. Management never really pays attention to article 37. I still deal with management talking down to us drivers like it's our fault we can deliver 100 businesses before 3p.m.
Cruiser007 (1 year ago)
We are living in the Valley of the Shadow of Death, the evidence is all around. You just mentioned "high people" "drunk people" "angry people" "smelly people" that's enough evidence for me. Nuff said.
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
Cruiser007. It's all true, I spent 24 years at Fed Ex, what a mess, drivers hooked on coke, alcoholics, sexual harassment.
marco (1 year ago)
People are less productive when the work place is not made to be a positive place that one of the problems and other things
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
True enough.
Dale Darland (1 year ago)
there management are druggies to
TheVikingsCentral (1 month ago)
Dale Darland At my hub maybe 1 or 2 out of 20 PT sups are druggies but they don’t come in high they just talk about it
Dale Darland (1 year ago)
they dont even follow protocal when you are injuried i got hurt and reported it and they refuse med service
Dale Darland (1 year ago)
umm no they can yell at you or scream in your face that is against your right as a person
Christopher (1 year ago)
This was an awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
Thanks for watching!
Cody Espinoza (1 year ago)
In the closet pot head or possible meth head, seriously though you're rant and rave is pointless. In your generation a job was a job. Despite the fact every job is just about the same you will always have ups and downs that's life. You are not perfect bro you were probably one of the grunts who have an addiction to, just saying
Vw Luvin (1 year ago)
Are stimulants illegal?? GNC has a shit ton of products loaded with STIMULANTS. Also millions on Americans are prescribed drugs such as Adderall and nuvigil for various medical reasons so yes those ppl are on stimulants as are MANY ppl that work overnight shifts. As far as employees not reporting injuries due to fear on being drug tested my 22 years with ups and 5 reported injuries say your full of shit. I have never been drug tested because of an injury. They don't need an excuse such as an injury.if you appear to be under the influence they have the right to do a drug test. As far as the health insurance true it's not the best n the world But its better the what most of the country has and yes your right working 2 jobs until you get a full time position sucks indeed however for me it was worth the struggle $30'an hr with annual raises to load and unload. Union member , 4 weeks vacation soon to be 5,also 7 personal and 3 sick days per year.
StillHateUnions AlwaysWill (1 year ago)
Unions will screw you at every turn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkL6dWaLsXU
Chris (1 year ago)
No no no....Piss bottles and half eaten food and guys not showering! These guys are pigs and should be replaced. There is no excuse for drivers not stopping as needed.
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
Chris You don't have the time to piss anywhere that's why they carry empty bottles with them, I got yelled at for taking a Krapp.
via bubba red (1 year ago)
i so appreciate you for making these videos. you spoke truth. i agree with everything you're saying 100%
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
Thanks for watching!
Don't Mind Me (1 year ago)
tomorrow is my last day at UPS working as a "loader" They make me do everything tho -.- and every single word of everything you've said in this video and the last is absolutely true.....
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
There are a lot of die hard UPSers who hate me for those videos.
Bloodsport1 (1 year ago)
UPS often hired drug addicts as their workers and promote them to supervisor. Part time supervisor.
John Grepo (1 year ago)
Bloodsport1 lol..
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
UPS likes to hire "part time" everything...
duramaxwelder (1 year ago)
This guy is such a straight edge. I love it.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
I'm too old to hold anything back!
Beverly Huttinger (1 year ago)
UPS has a tendency to hire young to middle aged Men who are clumsy and usually have bad attitudes. I cannot even begin to tell you how many people have told me what assholes they are.
Jack Chatfield (1 year ago)
Beverly Huttinger The entire logistics industry is full of them
Bobby Paluga (1 year ago)
I enjoy your videos, everybody has had problems with UPS. If you want hassle try filing a claim. I bought a navy blue blazer from Nordstrom in Santa Ana, CA? Since at that time there were no stores in Arizona you could have the jacket sent to you via UPS after its altered, and not have to pay sales tax. When it never arrived I called the store who gave me the numbers to trace the box. Then I called UPS who had the regular driver come by to question me. I filled out a report and signed it. A week later a manager or security guy who asks me questions like he's a cop and I'm Pretty Boy Floyd. I was told later that the package was delivered to my door and handed to a man, but not me. Then another guy comes out and tells me to list the names of all the men who were at my house during the time the box was delivered. Just me, my wife and two daughters, but they insisted that another man answered the door and took the box. I finally figured out that UPS was going to make this so hard I would drop the complaint.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
They'll never admit they made a mistake with a delivery. You think that's bad, try filing an insurance clam against a damaged item. You'll have really bad luck with that through the post office too...
R E (1 year ago)
Working for UPS is like working for Walmart! I used to work for UPS and my sister used to work for Walmart. She had a quadruple bypass because of the stress level working for Walmart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When i was working for UPS i was at the call center, even i was doing a good job at 87% they did not care about that, they only try to get the other13% back up. In other words they want machines to work for them.
John Grepo (1 year ago)
Coffee Talk , you got alot correct except the metal scanners- we all have to walk through, management and hourlys. Remember, use designated doors and pathways to enter and exit the facility.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
What gets me is how a lot of die hard UPS'ers are oblivious as to how badly they are being used.
Justin C (1 year ago)
Sounds like UPS employees could use a Fight Club, haha.
John Grepo (1 year ago)
Justin C you're so correct!
Ghetto Wagon (1 year ago)
A few years ago I did the seasonal package handler helper gig. First of all, you tell them your location and they choose a location for you which is like a half hour away when 2-5 trucks are buzzing around right outside where I lived. They harass you on the phone. When I did get a route it was delivered via golf cart. I do not think it was even legal, operating a unlicensed uninsured golf cart on public roads. Ya they loaded up a golf cart with packages! Packages fell out of it onto the street, all unorganized.. Nuts They wanted to train me, 1 day of training and they wanted me to do this whole huge area on 1 day training using a golf cart. The drivers routes here are so huge and so long that they are out for an easy 12 hours a day.
Ghetto Wagon (1 year ago)
It was dangerous! They had us cross main streets in a golf cart. 2 days into it some guy on a motorcycle got crashed really bad on the same street. I did not get close to it but laying off to the side of the road it looked like part of their head was laying there, hair and all. I was all "That could of been me on this stupid golf cart" Never mind you got burned up from the hot sun down here. Apparently if you "deny" work during that package handler position they will never consider hiring you again. I think I applied last year and the year before that and i was just ignored.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
That sounds crazy..
Aquarius (1 year ago)
Dave, so true !! I worked in a smaller UPS Ctr before i transferred to a larger hub & in 91' a new Mgr. removed a cotter pin from a hydraulic belt which was stuck & could be raised & lowered to the trailers & this thing fell on his chest & killed him. & your so right about the Supervisors "Setting people off" In the small Ctr. i was at (Three) - 3- P/T supes tried to get me thrown in jail & fired !! ( THEY TRIED VERY BAD TO FLATTER THEMSELVES - LONG STORY !! ) Fortunately they did not succeed & i transferred to a different hub where I'm still at till this day. & despite all the adversity just a couple years from retirement.
ke5kqc (1 year ago)
Is it the company's or the workers? No company is perfect but all have whiny employees
David Lemmo (9 months ago)
The company will hire any schmuck off the street with a clean background check and reliable transportation. There's no regard for quality at all, its all about quantity.
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
ke5kqc. It's the comp pushing the shit out of the employees, yelling at them in front of coworkers, harassment, sexual harassment, trying to pickup female drivers.
Minus ZeRo Degrees (1 year ago)
Oh god though they touch packages after their private yeah way to spread illness ups fedex usps and all other companies that hold a cooperate gun to their employees heads.
Minus ZeRo Degrees (1 year ago)
Trucker speed.
Fatty McGee (1 year ago)
UPS goes through package handlers like Donald Trump goes through wives. I really can only see college students being able to make it though enough time to see the real benefits of the job, but by the time that happens they have their degree and want nothing more to do with UPS. Bottom line is you have to make some real sacrifices to get to that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...most people don't want to do it.
Aten Akehnaton (1 year ago)
They also have to be willing to start giving people hours. I don't know about your building but they're crunching down the hours to insanely low levels. So I wouldn't say it's a lack of work ethic, I would say they have half a brain and realize when you're only getting 3 hours and it's (usually, depending on region, building, work assignment) hard work, with a buck or two more an hour and you have another job that you can just chill at, with flexible hours, and more hours, you're going to both make a lot more and feel a lot better at a slack job. Plus those couple of bucks more, which are only going to add up to what? Maybe 20 bucks at the end of the week, go to taxes and union dues. I used to get frustrated with lazy new highers, then I crunched the numbers, and finally started asking to look at their checks, for 100 to 180 bucks a week with no benefits, they're working too hard. Really there are no lazy people at UPS.
Fatty McGee (1 year ago)
Yeah, they just don't have the work ethic yet. Not only that but they just assume go work at Starbucks or a phone store as opposed to breaking your back physically. If UPS wants employees to stay around they're going to have to raise the starting wage. Health care is attractive but what counts to most people is your take home pay.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
In my hub the college students typically didn't last the day. They were the ones who went "out for a smoke" during the break and never came back on the first day...
Ty O'Regan (1 year ago)
"I refuse to pick up other people's piss bottles" *drinks* Thought that was funny haha.
Ben Kaiser (1 year ago)
David, first off great video, second off I can attest to the driver's using bottles to do their business, ad I was a driver's helper a few years ago, and this happened with the driver I was riding with. There are a lot of places, and times where driver's and their helper's have to do their business in bottles, and if there wasn't a conviniant place to use a flushing toilet, yes we had to use bottles, and some times trees, especially when making deliveries out in the middle of nowhere, usualy we were able to dispose of our waste at our next busi stop, but not always
Ben Kaiser (1 year ago)
I agree with you Dabid, but as I stated, we weren't always in an area where we could use the facilities, I learned really quick to try and time my stops, and where to jump off to go, I also tried to remember to go before the driver got to the pick-up spot where they picked me up for the day
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
It's a shame they can't even give those guys enough of a break to get to a restroom...
Aquarius (1 year ago)
Dave, awesome video & brutal honesty. i agree with everything. I've Been a driver for more then two 1/2 decades & can completely understand.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
It's not as great as how they describe it during the interview process, that's for sure!
Pete Zereeah (1 year ago)
I've never known anybody to work for UPS. But, a person tends to hear things is passing from people. I've always heard it's a horrendously bad place to work. The kind of place where you pity the guy doing it. I just heard they drop off boxes all day with whip scars on their backs.
bill carver (1 year ago)
I have heard the same shit to, 90 percent of the people I have talked to that say they worked at ups say its a terrible job. I have been there part time for 15 years now and never had a problem.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
Since putting the UPS videos out I've heard a lot of horror stories from current and former employees there. There's an occasional die-hard "UPSer" who cusses me out for the video content, but even those people never contradict my descriptions of the working environment.
BROWNWRENCH BROWN (1 year ago)
Does anybody tell you that you look like Negan from The Walking Dead in this video?
C.Foster (1 year ago)
BROWNWRENCH BROWN don't forget he has to lean backwards when talking to people LOL NEGAN does that in almost every scene
BROWNWRENCH BROWN (1 year ago)
You'd get mobbed at Comicon. All you need is a barbed wire baseball bat and a leather jacket. Not a bad thing. Negan is considered to be a handsome fellow.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
I've heard that a lot lately.
BROWNWRENCH BROWN (1 year ago)
The drugs explains a lot of what I see with preload. As a mechanic, I'm the only one who gets tested.
sneakergod the great (1 year ago)
David Gudgeon yea those smells do be biting
BROWNWRENCH BROWN (1 year ago)
+David Gudgeon I am subject to "random" testing because I have a CDL. Got popped 3 times in 5 months last year.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
If one group gets tested, they all should.
Dale Spears (1 year ago)
you have know idea of wjat you are talking about. i have been a driver for fifteen years and the center that i work in is a typical center. no issues that you are speaking of. you are a hater because you wanted to be a driver but you just couldnt be a good preloader or reloader long enough to make the 100k a year that full time drivers make so get your facts straight and speak what you know.
Brad Boisvert (1 month ago)
Exactly I drive as well it's a good career and good retirement people don't wanna work hard
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
Dale Spears. Wrong, I spent 24 years at Fed Ex, it's the same over there, piss bottles left in trucks, yelling at workers in front of other workers, harassment, sexual harassment, intimidating workers, threatening them, lying to upper management.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
Funny, I didn't see you there. I can concede that it may be different in other hubs, but your ignorance won't let you imagine that it may be a mess in others...
Luke Tecpa (1 year ago)
I have LD. I suffer short term memory loss. I really wish someone would call me "slow and stupid" because that's a class action lawsuit right there.
Matt Montgomery (1 year ago)
I've been working at UPS for 13 1/2 years and what you have been describing is crazy, the hub you work at must be in a bizarro world, the hub I work at is nothing like what you're explaining. The Thing is, for longevity at UPS, the guys who have drug problems, the nee guys, they last about two weeks to a month at best, every year or so those guys get hired somehow, but a s a whole most of the people working smoke weed. I guess where I'm based the supervisors are pretty Damn cool, never really had a problem with any of them, they do Cate about production numbers but if you do your work, they leave you alone. I started out loading back in 2002, moved to unload in 04, went to sort isle in 06, stayed there until 2014, went driving and decided to go back in hub after 20 days, went to small sort for a year, but one thing about job, you have to take care of your body, stretching, lifting weights, drinking a ton of water, because for me my back and neck are screwed up pretty bad, but I go to chiropractic and do foundation training to maintain my spine. For now I've been unloading for last year and a half. I've been doing this job so long it's no problem for me, just work at steady pace and I fly through two 53 ft trailers. and a couple 24ft trailers every day. You know what else helps me get through it too, I listen to thrash metal on my mp3 ,old school metallica, Exodus, Testament, Slayer, Pantera, anything metal, and the day just flies by. anyway, I love working for UPS, they have treated me pretty Damn good all these years, my daughter has the best benefits for medical, and dental, I have a 401k, also a great pension allowing with that.
Bob Jones (29 days ago)
Matt Montgomery I've worked at USPS for the past 15 years already and also listen to high energy music to get me through the day. It actually increases my focus and can fly through the day. Sometimes I have to get a little pissed to get in the zone and focus. Have to have the mindset that you are the best at what you do.
Coffee Talk (1 year ago)
I can concede that every hub is a little different. I can only comment on the location where I worked. Glad to hear that every hub isn't being run the same as the one I was stuck with.
SwellDrew (2 years ago)
Hey David which state do you live in? Are you from California or the Midwest?
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
No, originally from Boston.
SwellDrew (2 years ago)
Are you originally from Illinois?
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
I am in Illinois.
honeybun33 (2 years ago)
i know about the piss cups.
honeybun33 (2 years ago)
yes. UPS is NOT a friendly work environment. the hiring administration in Atlanta, Forest Park hub are RUDE !! my driver my driver was an a$$hole ! he curses like a sailor and expects you to work 10hrs a day. me?? no way ! i made more money at my last job doing less work and less hours. to hell with UPS. it felt like a plantation and i was glad it was seasonal . those 4 weeks felt like a year.
Brad Boisvert (1 month ago)
Man bunch of cry babies i drive for ups not afraid to work and am thankful to be working making great money
bigjohn6458 (6 months ago)
about to apply to the same hub, i take it you would tell me to run as far away as i can lol
Daniel tonio (10 months ago)
honeybun33 today it was snowing and it was very slippery and i slipped on the steps. when i got to back to the truck i told my driver how i sliped. He told me don't care and i need to work faster.
How to basic (1 year ago)
honeybun33 I wanna be the guy who toss the package
Gene W (1 year ago)
HARD WORK IS TOUGH, HUH?
sportsfan6554 (2 years ago)
I've been at UPS over a month and are already loading 5 trucks and it's a pain in the ass. Having to stack shit out is overwhelming at times and I rarely get help from my supervisors.
Frederik Saraber (10 months ago)
sportsfan6554. Fed Ex is the same way, I spent 24 years over there, all harassment and intimidation.
Aten Akehnaton (2 years ago)
+sportsfan6554 Man you are good.
sportsfan6554 (2 years ago)
Aten Akehnaton if I get lucky then the volume is around 1100 but it still sucks. The only upside is that time goes by fast since you don't really have time to think. As long as you walk into a truck with at least 2 packages at a time then you shouldn't have to stack out as much.
Aten Akehnaton (2 years ago)
5 trucks? Fuck man. You're loading like 1500 pieces a day? I couldn't do it, I read too slowly. I would just let it get stacked out and the drivers can cry me a river when they leave late. No sympathy. You get what you pay for. Unless they're paying you 30 plus an hour you shouldn't be killing yourself.
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
That sounds about right. You start off thinking, "hey, it's like getting paid to do a workout". But then after the first month you realize all you are working out are your joints. It's going to get a lot harder as the Christmas holiday gets closer.
robertintexas (2 years ago)
Pt is definitely a hard way to go at ups. when I started in '76, we made $6.41/hr, just $1.00/less than drivers at that time. Over the years the PTers have suffered. I think they start at like $10.00 or $10.50 now. Barely enough for gas money. I retired with 38 years as a feeder driver.
Brad Boisvert (1 month ago)
Feeder is where it's at👍
steve b (1 year ago)
David Gudgeon Cuz the union started selling them out in 1981.
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
Union or not the PT workers are expendable at UPS.
robm3 (2 years ago)
what neckbeard loser
Theoren Sotoropolis (2 years ago)
my cuison mitch works at FedEx and he makes more then 1,000 dollars a week and he had been working there 1 month straight out of high school with no job experience
Aten Akehnaton (2 years ago)
There are people who work for Wal-Mart and are making millions a year. You can't just throw a number out there and tell people it's a great job, the position they work in matters too.
Billy Smith (2 years ago)
The turn over rate for part timers is 200% give of take a 100%
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
Few new people stayed till the end of the shift!
Rick James (2 years ago)
I didn't watch the whole thing or when you even worked there but it sort of looks like you were most likely too old already when you started. The entry jobs are for the college kid and the plan is for them to leave after college. No doubt everything you say is true. It's a tough life and not for everyone for sure. You obviously gave it too much thought and let it get to you. I did 4 on the preload and 26 on the road but I worked in a small center and sort of just tried to forget all my other obligations like family until I left work or it will eat you alive and cause all the bitterness you describe. Hopefully you got out and found something better for yourself. I live okay now on a pension but have had 4 back surgeries plus the usual knee and shoulder surgeries that most drivers have so I live in pain and probably wasn't even worth it for me in the long run. Best of luck to you.
Rick James (2 years ago)
I get that but I couldn't imagine not starting to drive until I was 35 or 40. Pretty much everybody at my center was retired before 50 and they didn't even hire a part time person not in college and under 21 or 22. Fortunately I started when I was 18 and started driving at 22 and I still barely made it to retirement. It's not for everybody for sure. Now most of the pensions have been forced to raise retirement ages because of Wall St. and that would change everything in my opinion. I wouldn't have put up with it if there was no end in sight. I do think the smaller more remote areas are a bit less stressful than big cities or hubs and getting feeder certifications is no doubt the best way to extend your career. In my 30 years though we only had one guy leave that was a driver. A few injured and couldn't come back which is normal but they wouldn't pay that much money if it was easy I guess. Life is tough and getting tougher for the next generation.
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
A lot of the people I worked with on the dock were older than I was with the exception of the dock supervisors who all looked like they were barely old enough to shave, (which would explain the bad attitudes).
David Furman (2 years ago)
this sounds like working of walmart
steve b (1 year ago)
David Gudgeon Walmart work is NOT work.
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
I have a video up about working in Walmart!
Mary Sunshine (2 years ago)
FedEx, same difference, i saw the lack of training and uptight managers.....thank goodness i was only there for a month or so. I enjoyed it, as i saw it as a temporary solution and a good work out at the same time. It's not a job you build a career on, it's a job you get the F out of asp.
Ben Metal (2 months ago)
Mary Sunshine you enjoyed it so much you quit after a month. 👌
P Hightower (2 months ago)
Mary Sunshine why is some guy saying you worked for Ups but you are speaking about FedEx??
P Hightower (2 months ago)
marco Our pilots dont strike...LOL
P Hightower (2 months ago)
Its simply NOT for everyone! I've been at Fedex going on 24 yrs coming this Aug!
Francesco Avila (6 months ago)
Mary Sunshine been driving bigrigs at FedEx for twenty years,make eighty grand a year,why should I leave?
jram1713 (2 years ago)
Misinformation!!!
Daniel tonio (10 months ago)
He is telling the truth
Aten Akehnaton (2 years ago)
No it isn't. Generally this is what UPS is like. Your average part-time hourly is making 130 to 200 a week depending on shift. It just doesn't pay well for the amount of work you do. Personally I just work at the pace I feel like working at and if they want to fire me so be it. I'm just there for the benefits.
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
Not all hubs are run the same way.
Cris Ruiz (2 years ago)
That's sucks you got dealt a shit hand that hub sounds terrible my hub is very positive but then again I work twilight would never work pre load
David Lemmo (9 months ago)
My hubs Twilight is one of the shittiest shifts I've heard of. The manager can fly off the handle within half an hour after start, if and when the highest volume outbound shuts its belt off for more than 5 minutes or spends more time off than on in a 10 minute period. The full time sup in charge of the the inbound will yell over the slightest dip in productivity. The part time sup in charge of the first 10 doors will yell at sorters as if he were in charge of both Unload and Sort. Not to mention commuting in requires navigating rush hour traffic, and the hub lacks adequate parking for all workers,.
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
Yeah, I never did work twilight, so I can't speak on how that shift is like.
Novocain95 (2 years ago)
Working the early morning shift would suck, twilight shift is a lot better. I like your channel, you should do a video talking about unions
pual puaulsky (1 year ago)
He has a union video
steve jones (2 years ago)
Just as you said Worthless union money grubbers and the company you clearly work for.  Poor confused expendable sweat shop slaves.  And no they push you so they can get more out of you especially the big and stupid ones.    I guess that's why they go to school,  out of school to learn how to sucker you in to a meat grinder or wood chipper so they can feed off of you.  Teach you things nobody especially your teachers in grammer school and parents would never teach.    Dirtiest of the dirtiest.  And of course the union is obviously just a middle man so you don't kill each other during your shift still they do nothing for the process useless.    So all of you out there thinking of going there have fun being shit on and be prepared for anything they throw at you.  Regardless of Tuiton, Insurance after a year of slave service or and of course work out if you don't die of a heart attack or otherwise So have fun with that Later YOUTUBERS...
kos22us (2 years ago)
your 1st video should have been titled the truth about unions, this video should have been titled some random misinformation about ups, you only mentioned free healthcare you must have forgot about the vacation, sick days, personal days, and pension, you get all that as a part timer which is extremely rare, also drivers piss in bottles cause they're in a hurry to get done to get home to their family, or they could be in a bonus center in which they make bonus money for running under scratch, you made it sound like the employees are horrendous dirty and drug addicts but it seems they all can do the job that you cant do, you complain about management but i know from personal experience they only push the employees that need pushed so im wondering which side of the fence you were on, i love these videos keep making them, my fav. part is when you start to complain about how hard the job is as you calmly sip your tea, although in this video you did mention you came from a manager job at family dollar into ups which is absolutely a hard job so now knowing that it puts things into perspective
Chad Baesman (11 months ago)
I just quit UPS after five years of preload and three months as a driver. I can't speak to all management teams but I can definitely say that the way the palm Bay center is run only creates the two extreme employee types. The ass kissing, lunch skipping off the clock worker as well as the lazy Union protected grievance machine employee. Ups was an incredibly hard place to work but it takes you further than you thought you could go. And they do offer an amazing benefits package. But simply put, nothing that good comes easy. In my experience most permanent employees at UPS act like metaphorical hookers; having their entire lives defined by their career schedule and stuck feeling as if they have no better option because the money is so good.
Don't Mind Me (1 year ago)
mate. I've worked at UPS too and 90% of what he's said is absolutely true. No drug addicts in my building but everything else was spot on. Ask any employee "is this job worth $200 /week" they will tell you straight up fuck no
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
I've got a video on Unions!
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
I will in the near future. It may have to be in more than one part though.
Sprax (2 years ago)
Do a video on unions.
SanJuanCreole (2 years ago)
It's sad how people are treated at ups. Hard cheap labor for a cheap pay rate.
Brad Boisvert (1 month ago)
😂what cheap pay rate we make over 100,000 a year driving
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
That's what they want, expendable labor...
steve jones (2 years ago)
Yes the place is Shit very Fucked up, Everything you said times a thousand. SHitttttt company same thing at whites creek Nashville TN.  And they do blame you for everything that happens, others you work with and managers place suck's.    They're all drugged up pumped full of energy drinks place suck's.   Most people that still work there are ass kisser's and to stupid to go anywhere else or just for the insurance and workout only selling point's for the people there.    Union is shit they are suppose to fight for you they don't just like you said.    Pay dues for what worthless shit place.  Chinese sweat shop slaves, superman attitude and machine back.  Then every time you hear news or ask a sup or manager something nothing lie's, till they come to you and talk about themselves brag so to speak or try to get you in to management so you can be just like them full of shit.   Only ones that still work there to stupid to leave or dume as a rock, a side from the insurance and or of course a workout.  Short version of the biz very short.
sneakergod the great (1 year ago)
David Gudgeon I load 4 trucks you get fucked up just stack out cause I'm one that will duck the belt up
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
Sounds like you've had a similar UPS experience!
901Jooce (2 years ago)
I load a whites creek truck in Memphis hahaha
RonH H (2 years ago)
I have a ups driver her old man men on route for years so lazy he wont bring package down to house we live in woods down circle drive if our drive is blocked by one of our cars he just leaves it up at the tree if i dont know something coming it gets wet I called they dont give a shit once year a guy comes with him to give a check on him boy nice fucker then next day back to ass hole o well there my rant and yes I have worked for ups in high school un loading those trucks they drive around on I had 15 to unload in 4 hours never got it done go fired before they let me join the union. thanks for video I watched all you have thanks for memory's .
Coffee Talk (2 years ago)
+RonH H It's not easy to get those trucks finished the way they expect it!