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250 UPS drivers in Queens, New York were fired after walking out of work for 90 minutes in solidarity with a fellow teamster who'd been terminated abruptly. There have been online petitions circulated to restore the employment of the workers, though new attention is being paid to the intense scrutiny that drivers are under from management that monitor every move of their computerized fleet. We discuss it on the Lip News with Mark Sovel and Jackie Koppell. http://thelip.tv/ http://thelip.tv/show/the-lip-news/ More Playlists from TheLipTV: BUZZSAW news clips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHOXojwwEU&list=PLjk3H0GXhhGfxwzdter06NvBnjQjjLvtW&index=2 CRIME TIME clips playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9iS-9bCANI&index=2&list=PLjk3H0GXhhGeC9DbpSnIvd2i9BHh2dBvv BYOD (Bring Your Own Doc) Highlight Videos- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrLvrfqzLM&index=2&list=PLjk3H0GXhhGeu2DCf6Ouo7hTsA5QB2MAL MEDIA MAYHEM short videos playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ192Enl4DI&list=PLjk3H0GXhhGcz4un-zws5sMlCLk3NNjDP&index=2 https://www.facebook.com/thelip.tv http://www.youtube.com/theliptv
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Bill Beebe (5 days ago)
If that is how UPS treats the employee with union backing, can you imagine what they'd do with out it ?
Max Gonzalez (28 days ago)
Yeah boy
RJ_HERE (1 month ago)
As a former ups employee, it was a bittersweet experience for me.
Billy Smith (1 month ago)
Big Brown. Big Shit
GTmaniac (1 month ago)
“Wahhh I have to opportunity to make 85k delivering cardboard wahhhhh”
WhatEver! (2 months ago)
UPS has the right they give them money to do a job they dont have to work for UPS if they dont want to. Plus all of those people should still be fired no point in keeping people who would walk out on the job.
newlife (2 months ago)
SuperBigblue19 (2 months ago)
I worked as a teamster doing 14 home appliance deliveries per day. Even a half assed driver with a helper could do it in 7hrs. When they went non- union after the teamsters bailed with are dues & no support or finding us jobs I worked for the new company and was paid by the stop. Went from $113 dollars per day after dues, to doing 18 stops at $16 per stop. And this was in the mid 80's Union are not always better then non-union.
Camouflage Productions (2 months ago)
The union are BLOOD SUCKERS. Do not join the union.
Katie Crumley Weaver (2 months ago)
I was born Union and will die Union! Been a UPSer over 5yrs now and plan on working 25 more years. This reporter is so ignorant and completely wrong about the definition of a Union grievance. Smh #ProudMemberOfTeamsterLocal519
Katie Crumley Weaver (2 months ago)
Mysterious One 🙄
TheDay Cometh (2 months ago)
Katie Crumley Weaver Get it girl! Going on 16 yrs 🙂
sportster1988 (4 months ago)
I think the fuckers need to get back in the truck and go to work.
Avion Mech (5 months ago)
Marty Marsh (5 months ago)
Today it is hard to tell who is more corrupt, the unions or corporate America, but the teamsters invented corrupt.
William Venson (6 months ago)
The new thing now in 2017, that just started, is retaliation from management for filing grievances. If you file for 9.5 and you are added to the 9.5 hour workday list. Management then forces you to work only 8 hours a day. If your not able to finish the work in 8 hours you must bring it back for someone else to finish. It's their way of forcing teamsters to get off the 9.5 list. It's either excessive overtime or no overtime at all....
daniel mejia (6 months ago)
They have no fucking right to do this dude
Ruben Garza (6 months ago)
The harassment in ups is crazy!
Don Kopp (8 months ago)
I would walk out and not train anyone!!!
Elvis Perry (8 months ago)
Teamsters is a joke, i have 2 termination letters plus suspension day which ups still haven't giving me. My supervisor tells me i should quit if i don't want to be here, i say fire me then with a big smile on my face.
Michael Ireland (8 months ago)
This is disgraceful, Americans need to refuse to use UPS and send them bankrupt
Vali Vali (9 months ago)
fedex ground is the worst.
russell5078084 (10 months ago)
obviously packages matter more than people.
Bud Lockn (10 months ago)
Fuck ups! Biggest piece of shit company out there
Simon Wright (10 months ago)
profits before people, it's a worldwide thing
the flash (11 months ago)
I do not allow UPS to come on my property anymore at all. the driver told me that my package was back at the shop when I asked for it a few days later, he had left a note the day before that & it said 2nd notice on the note,  which is fine but, where was the first notice, he said he doesn't give out the 1st notice just so's we customers will be home the next day when they get to my area of their route, IT was my Oxycodone I was getting from the VA that I had to sign for, he wanted to know what was in the package & I told him he wasn't going to find out unless he broke it open & if he did that he was going to jail..  so the next day he drops off my package after I signed for it & inside this box is my very small bottle of pills that looked like they had been opened, I told him he was gonna stand right there until I counted them out & heaven help his hide if any were missing..  He stood there as I took my sweet little old time opening the package up, then counting the pills out from the bottle, it had 250 type written on the label, so that meant that I was getting 250 pills in the bottle & it sure didn't look like anything near that at all, in the mean time my fianceé comes home goes in the house & calls the cops, (I mouthed the words Call the cops to her without him seeing me do it) I am still counting the pills out when he cops arrive & he didn't see them at all, when I finally was down to 5 pills left there were 200 in the bottle & 50 were missing, the cop asked him to turn out his pockets & the very 1st one he turned out had all 50 of the pills in them.. They took him away & he never said a word at all, I called UPS  & asked them when the other driver was expected to be at my house to drive the truck back to their shop & they said they didn't know anything about it at all, so I told them that he was arrested for stealing drugs from my package & the cops hauled him away, they didn't seem to concerned at all about their truck, so the next day when they came to pick up the truck the tow truck driver asked where all the packages were that were in the truck, I told him that not having any leys to move the truck or lock it up I just went to work that night & no one in the neighborhood heard a damn thing about anyone stealing what was in the truck,  3 days later they send me a bill for all that was missing from the truck & the next day my attorney delivered them a paper stating that none of UPS employees are allowed on my property for any reason at all & there was also an arrest warrant for the driver that made his bail that evening & he came back & stole everything out of the truck, the only way they knew that was because he left his keys in the truck when he went away with all the packages in his pickup truck his brother had.. Not that my security cam didn't catch him on video when he opened up the truck because it is motion  sensed & started taping right when he slammed the door the first time & then went on for 37 minutes as they snuck around quietly taking everything out of the truck..  He went back to jail & I showed the video to the UPS drivers that come here to deliver now & all the Fed ups guys also & tell them that they are not welcomed here & will be arrested if they deliver here again, & I also tell companies that those two companies are not allowed on my premises either. The next ones are going to be the the dweebs at the USPS  in the village  that tell everyone what is in my packages what I sign for so NOW I can't leave my doors unlocked anymore.. Bummer when I have to search for my keys now
mathew mann (11 months ago)
I used to work there, the union reps only help the lazy asses that dont show up, dont come to work....lazy bastards! Im so glad i got my Masters degree now!!
croc huntas (11 months ago)
it's always a give and take with Union employees and management. disciplinary action are their bargaining chips and grievances are the employees'. management says we will table this termination or whatever if you take this grievance and rip it up. that's how the game works. we don't know what this Reyes guy actually did but it must have been serious. and yes, trouble makers or what the management perceives to be should not expect to be treated nicely. you put a target on your back when you do that.
croc huntas (11 months ago)
tatted up arm, how unprofessional
Ruski Ryan (1 year ago)
Sounds just like Stagecoach Bus in the UK
David Stewart (1 year ago)
UPS they have come so far in employee relations but the old UPS always comes out, right or wrong they just don't handle things good in the public eye, that always scared me at UPS that their demise would come from within someday, who knows, it is what it is.
Richard Schneider (1 year ago)
I read most of these post how bad UPS is. You have two choices do your do your 75 to 90K job or see if you can quit and wok for 20K some place else. UPS is not their to hold your hand and wipe your butt. So all you UPS hatter just suck it up butter cup.
Mark Harris (1 year ago)
He must have turned left and got caught.
HighIncomeHousing (2 months ago)
Mark Harris lol
Marlon Stern (1 year ago)
Even if UPS wasn't competing with a future where a lot of delivery is going to be automated, the fact is many industries have been automated and have flooded the labor market. UPS is one of the few places with good benefits that doesn't require a degree in 2016. Not saying it's right. Something has to change. But UPS is definitely abusing the hell out the workers, in exchange for being the only company giving people good benefits straight out of high school...if a person can hang. ..Most can't
Edgar1 Edgar (9 months ago)
Marlon Stern of course you don't need a degree your going to do heavy slave work . ups is not a career is a labor job minimum wage
dave miller (1 year ago)
ups is the worst place to work you will ruien your body before you retire and need knee replacements back injuries, you will become an old crippled man before you retire and now that I'm retired with those problems for working there the teamsters are cutting our pensions by 30-70 percent,sll those years for nothing
CEF Fr (1 year ago)
Your body is more important than a package work safely!
Hippie Logger (1 year ago)
An interesting story ruined by poor commentators, you two need to be fired.
james hoskins (1 year ago)
Being fired is part of the process. Trust me they go through a process before he gets his job back. This is just part of the story I'm sure
al mar (1 year ago)
I had a package accidentally shipped to my by UPS last week and it upset me, I dont want anything to do with them at all, I hated that company before and after this video I truly despise them.
Joshua Wallace (1 year ago)
Unions are stupid
Boris Castro (1 year ago)
this has nothing to do with these video but i'm going to share my story at UPS. Been with the company since 2011, started as a pre-loader. became a driver in late 2014 so been a driver a little over a year now. in feb. 2016 i made a mistake and was given article 50 for dishonesty and false of documents. was able to get my job back after an entire month of being out with no pay. 3 weeks later after coming back from discharge i have 2 late airs and was giving article 7. had another hearing and now they want to get rid of me because they said i tried to do the same thing i did last time which is not even close to, i just had a late air!!. my case is now going to the panel to have a final decision about wether i should keep my job or not. anyone that has gone thru this process? my case will show in june of this year. should i worry about it?
Bud Lockn (1 year ago)
Curious to know which ups u worked at and what is your local union number, they can't permanently fire u just for late air
LS1 Corvette Fan (1 year ago)
+Boris Castro​ Sorry to hear that Boris I'm a driver in Southern California and they would never even consider firing one of us for late air.
Boris Castro (1 year ago)
Turbo Dreams I got fired unfortunately. My union told me that I was going to be fine but they lied! I did what a driver is supposed to do when you know you're gonna have a late air which is call it in and let them know that you're gonna have a late air period! and you wanna know the fucked up part about it? the air pckg was late by 1 mf minute! at the panel hearing I explained to them that yes I f*** up the first time and that I learned from it and that the second time i didn't do anything but the right thing wich i already said in the beginning but they didn't give a fuck dude. Dont trust your unions because those fuckers are just as dirty as the company. AT THE END OF THE DAY I GOT FUCKED OVER BY 1 MINUTE.
Turbo Dreams (1 year ago)
How did this end ?
Larry Martin (2 years ago)
They would have gotten their jobs back anyway lol
Sandra Staton (2 years ago)
Well UPS Supervisors are only paying these drivers for 33 hours when they are working over 40 hours.  That is part time.  These supervisors are changing the time on the manifest so that they don't have to pay these poor drivers their overtime.  I say sue and take these big bosses to the labor department
Second Thought (2 years ago)
UPS is selfish and is the worst carrier in America!
Rick James (9 months ago)
It's their own fault if they do that job. They came into one of the highest paid labor jobs in the country and gave it all away. Screw Fedex ground or RPS or whoever they started out as.
Gimmee Inboxback (10 months ago)
No the winner of the worst carrier in America goes to Fedex Ground. No bennefits, low salary, no overtime, no health insurance, no pension, long hard hours, no breaks, no lunch. Nearly every day is a living hell.
legman till i die (2 years ago)
UPS is a very very vindictful company. They will look for reasons to fire you. They are an ugly company. If you don't bend over they will have there eyes on you. In the contract it states a fair days work for a fair days pay, They violate this every day. I could go on forever.
lewid live (2 years ago)
I worked as a UPS driver and was a shop steward for over 25 years. I had no idea why unions were necessary until I got that job. UPS paid us well ONLY because we fought for it each and every contract. They continually railroaded employees, that were unwilling to suck the management's nuts, to and past the point of harassment. When the union protects everyone's job, the haters always say they only protect the lazy and unproductive ones. It's a fact; we made more money and had the top benefits in the entire industry for one reason. The Teamsters!
R.E Rock Jaure (18 days ago)
local 63 teamsters retired 2013 with 30 yrs of service started at 21 years old ontario ca ,I know in Ontario California when I was almost got fired for a run away package truck, Truck rolled about 10 feet and my super jump in truck pulled break no harm no foul stop it from hitting anything ,District Manager saw what happened wanted to fire me . My union fought for me I got suspended for the weekend. Came back to my package truck on monday to work I know I did not ever want to talk to the manager who wanted me fired .I was a hard worker company sees you as just a number I was lucky to make retirement love my life peace and love.
Amy Loves (11 months ago)
You sound like me. It took me 5 months to join the Union. I had never seen so much mess at a company with money. My mouth was agape. We had a floor psychologist.
ACLTony (2 years ago)
UPDATE: According to news reporter Bill Binedetto, UPS and management reached an agreement regarding the drivers. They would not be terminated, but instead suspended 2 weeks without pay. The union's leaders agreed to acknowledge that the walkout was not authorized.  Apparently UPS had contracts with the city worth more than $2,000,000 and $43,000,000 with the state. City officials were threatening to cancel the contracts and pressured UPS' management to work things out with the union.
Katie Crumley Weaver (2 months ago)
Gotta love our Teamster brothers and sisters!!! They're always hard at work and will always fight for what's right!! #ProudMemberOfTeamsterLocal519
Amy Loves (11 months ago)
Exactly, gotta hold on to the revenue contracts. The company I work for told Walmart to go find another company. You'll be back. Their employees were abusive to all levels of workers including upper management. They didn't leave.
David Heald (2 years ago)
What a rotten assed company UPS is. I'm 72 YO and retired but I would quit UPS if I worked there
Pharroh Ku (3 years ago)
I am with UPS on this because those shit head UNIONS are MUCKING up everything in the US because a good example of this . JUST LOOK at DETROIT the unions mucked everything there and NY is NEXT with all the unions it going to happen in NY as well  I am for the workers as long as they follow the rules but to stand a walk out for some smuck you deserve what you get  Unions do NOT give a shit about the workers anyways. LOOK at it this way when the Union says go on STRIKE you must strike. During this time you are on strike you will NOT receive your full pay just a partial payment to compensate you for your time because your a MEMBER of Union.  Also During this time you are NOT receiving your full pay.  You fall behind on you UNION DUES,Rent, Car payment, Mortgage , Insurance, child support or what ever you have obligations with .  While you are having problems making ends meet and putting food on the table for your family . You still have to make your UNION DUES or you will be dropped from the UNION and then your just SHIT out of luck. Also during this time when the UNION MANAGER REP said to go on strike they always say they are with you .  BUT they are really only looking out for them selves because even though your on STRIKE the UNION REP still receives his FULL PAY CHECK and you DUMB STUPID ASS PEOPLE that pay these DUES fall for the BULLSHIT every time when they have a RALLY meeting to PUMP you up so it looks like they are fighting on your side , They really do NOT give a shit because they still RECEIVE there FULL PAY. COME ON YOU DUMB ASS PEOPLE THE UNION IS NOTHING BUT A SCAM TO MAKE THE RICH GET RICHER . NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS
gasdorfy munchy (3 years ago)
fire there asses ..every job is management keeping track of productivity and firing the weak links their job is fire few a week lol
danknugz420 (3 years ago)
I would go there with a glock 9
Ray Haynes (3 years ago)
On what grounds does UPS have to fire 250 people? At the very worst you would get a warning letter for being 1 hour and a half late. Ridiculous !! 
Stephen Hunter (2 years ago)
The local manager might be a showing the boys who's boss. he may also be new to the position.
Dillon Crowe (3 years ago)
I don't know what everyone is freaking out about. I've worked for ups for the past 5 years and the last 2 and half without Union and I have no complaints.
Rusty Shackleford (3 years ago)
Since its obvious that you're hitting the "union" angle hard. I guess I have a strong opinion on unions since I worked for almost a decade in union jobs. Unions are a business now and serve to keep the BAD workers working. Simple as that. In mandatory unionization, those with the most seniority are usually the least productive since they do the minimum not to get fired. In optional unionization, those that are unionized are universally worse than non-union workers.  Heck, I remember my own union trying to throw me under the bus for a screw-up another union member did. Ironically the company protected me when the union did not.  I worked for one of these mail carriers and they're HUGE on safety. I can't comment on drivers though since they're quite different than loaders/unloaders but I saw my fair share of easily avoided accidents/injuries and heard of major accidents that occurred in other centers.
Shawn P (5 months ago)
Employees don't get away with not working in a delivery job.
ACLTony (2 years ago)
+Dillon Crowe One of my relatives worked for UPS. Said the pay was good but it was frustrating since some supervisors and/or managers play power play games and so does the union. For straightforward people that like to work, not mess with anyone, and put in an honest day's work, it can be frustrating seeing the frequent "back and forth" cat and mouse game between both sides. I knew a retired UPS semi-truck driver. He told me a story in which on a run to Pennsylvania, his stomach became upset. He pulled into a gas station and spent 20 minutes in the bathroom. Afterwards he was able to finish his run. Next day he was called into the office and chewed out for the bathroom stop! Even after explaining that he had to use the toilet, his boss repeatedly told him 'This is NOT ACCEPTABLE! THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!". He wasn't fired but was warned. Apparently supervisors are encouraged to keep their employees under pressure to get the job done no matter what.
Dillon Crowe (3 years ago)
I can't agree with you more. I work for ups and have for the past 5 years, once somebody settles down in the union and gets comfortable it turns into a "what is the minimum amount of effort I have to do to not get fired. And finds any excuse why they couldn't get there jobs done" Then complains why others are not doing their jobs correctly. (Mainly management.)
Billy Smith (3 years ago)
99% of UPS drivers bust there asses .UPS really frown on taking lunches ,fact California was the few states to have balls to force UPS to let drivers take lunch. Lots of driver bodies are trashed after a brutal pace of 20 yeas give or take. Then they are shown the street the taxpayer picks up the mess .Few lucky ones have enough time for a pension.
tkrinc (3 years ago)
and any wildcat strike is illegal .you can cause much trouble for a union doing so.send it to arbitration .
tkrinc (3 years ago)
i have so much trouble with ups workers i always say fire them.dont care if they are union or not.when they dont do their job right,or almost kill 5 people on the road cause they made a mistake driving.or driving way to fast thru neighborhoods i will not support them or their bosses.
Nathan Bemoll (3 years ago)
Go ahead and try with out a union. This is not a moms ans pops shop. UPS has its hands around the whole world. there has to be checks and balances of this structure. No union NO=$34.00 NO=pension NO=free med insurance NO=401k NO=discounted ups stock.. Educate yourself and get a clear view from both sides. Remember UPS also hires non union positions.
Dillon Crowe (3 years ago)
I work at ups for the past 5 years, last 2 and a half w/o Union and I'm doing fine.....
miketheupsman (3 years ago)
UPS is the devil and the union is getting the pitchfork up the ass. They should have never passed this last contract. UPS doesn't respect anything. The employees,the union,and the customers get treated like shit. All they care about is the money. Firing 250 people makes them more money. If they could find away to fire us all they would cause they don't care who they hurt in the process. Corporate America at its finest.
ups man (3 years ago)
Good for u brother 623. Somebody has to stand up. We like robots where's the human factor
Corinthian Smelcer (3 years ago)
Funny how the anti union comments are all from uneducated people the job at ups is a fantastic job ... because of the union look at fed ex. Im a proud union member and I work very hard for the last 17 years.
Amy Loves (11 months ago)
+Ryan McClure Y'all get paid when you file a grievance right? CWA doesn't we just escalate it. I had one go up to VP level. I was ill. You CANNOT be ill in Telco. They'll knock on your door. We had a young lady killed because they sent her on one more dispatch ice storm. She was in her early 20s going to school and working. I cried, many of us did. They tried to hide it too.
gasdorfy munchy (3 years ago)
+stephanie henderson ups transfers package to usps delay my package 3 weeks even though its in my city?  you are a dum bitch  
Ryan McClure (3 years ago)
I was a driver for both UPS and Fedex Express....as a union driver for ups, I got treated like shit, and the union did nothing....remember one night it was 730 at night in the middle of a snowstorm and i get sent back out to help another driver when 40 plus drivers were already in and allowed to go home...nope i get sent back out, get into an accident, and get pulled from the road for 2 weeks which is bullshit, union did nothing to my supervisor for sending me back out in hazardous conditions...its all about the money for them...fedex, great place to work, didn't care i got paid less, didnt care if there was no union, i felt more secure with my job there than at ups...oh well it is what it is....
stephanie henderson (3 years ago)
Good for you, I'm sure UPS is a great company, most poor experiences are based on locations and poor management.
Kay Anderson (3 years ago)
Wildcat cat strikes are a fireable offense..... UPS workers union is teamsters .... wildcat stokes are not allowed  
Mary Colonna (3 years ago)
Just use the United States Postal service, whenever possible.
raul cortez (3 years ago)
Work union... live better... ! Local 63 Teamsters.....
Lorenzo Torres (1 month ago)
raul cortez what hub you from ? I’m from San Bernardino local 63 as well
mikeykunch _ (3 years ago)
FedEx express all the way.
hector arriaga (3 years ago)
no me sorprende en mexico tienen comprado al cindicato
Kodiak and Grizzly Bears (3 years ago)
What do you intend to point out?
12345 6789 10 11 12 (4 years ago)
America is now a hardcore system of CORPORATE FASCISM.  In a corporate fascist system labor unions are NOT tolerated.  The death of the middle class in America is a DIRECT result of CORPORATE FASCISM.  Problem is that Americans are mostly still caught up in blaming repub's or demo's, and not realizing its fake politics are fake like WWE wrestling.  As corporate fascism has taken over in America, it plans to keep the people thinking it has something to do with fake elections and actor/actress politicians, so as to not let the people realize what the real problem is.
Tony Rodriguez (4 years ago)
U don't use UPS
TickedOff Priest (4 years ago)
Yes, the management technically broke their contract and I am sure that their are some legal paths to take for that. Yes, the management also has a right to fire someone if they just walk off the job and do not contribute to the business. e Yes, the management should take an active role in how the employees drive company vehicles so that they do not lose money. No one owes you a job.
OmegaProxy (4 years ago)
Unfortunately these boys were in breach of their contract and termination was the punishment. As an employee I know that contract. Still have the handbook. It was written in crayon by a 2 year old monkey. The contract says that if you have a complaint you wish addressed you'll have to file a grievance with your union. At no point can you walk off the job or disobey a direct order. You have to do as instructed or you are terminated. Period. You do not have a say. A supervisor can tell you to go home for no reason. All you can do is file a grievance and maybe get paid for the day several weeks later if the grievance was found legitimate. In a mean time if your grievance is causing a ruckus then you will have a target on your back and you will be terminated for the smallest infraction. I also want to point out that the contract was signed by both sides and the employees when they start. More fun facts: drivers have to buy special UPS socks, only moustaches, no visible tattoos or piercings,
Ander Drake (4 years ago)
I've seen the same bs go down in the jobs I have worked, I absolutely sure that UPS full of it.  The workers should strike and strike hard, don't be training your replacements.  Make them lose a whole lot of money, so UPS will understand they can't pull this kind of shit in the future.
Karl Marx (4 years ago)
well i wont be using UPS ever again.
Michael Davidson (4 years ago)
Welcome to Fascist USA, unions are verboten!
MensKnowledge101 (4 years ago)
Proof that the United States of feminism doesn't want to keep Men Employed anymore, AVFM MRA MHRA MGTOW
mike61524334251 (4 years ago)
Talk about double speak.
ExposingMiLabs (4 years ago)
People need to refuse to work for any company that wants that much control over them. Of course the Union has a point!  
kien spicer (4 years ago)
I work at this ups the driver they protested for management was trying to fire all year every week was another excuse to try to fire him , because he spoke out against abuse he was told to get a route by 9am problem was he has to report to work by 9 am or be fired when he came early they said we gonna fore you because you can in early to set up for stealing time , next time learn the facts before opening your mouth about my teamsters family and union family most of the management team here steal the most, sexual harasses and uses racial undertones and discrimination here every day when you speak out they want to fire you instead of firing there own management team , and for those who oppose unions must be nice to live your world where coperations because generous and pay you a decent salary oops they don't but they collect more welfare in tax breaks then a poor working mother or starving child will in a lifetime
kien spicer (4 years ago)
Hey clowns on this blog I work for ups and this building they walked out because ups wanted to a driver to be on his route by 9 am or be fired problem was he not supposed to report to work till 9 am when he came in Early just to prove a point they said h was stealing time and fired ,no fair hearing or abritation , and they been doing this for about 5 year we had enough where we have to be perfect and management is always right even though they steal the most stuff and do things that would get them fired at McDonald's next time learn the facts before running your mouth
tom buerhaus (4 years ago)
Everything was union in 60's.They closed 90 per cent of all factories,shipped entire steel mills too china,where they have 10 cent an hour slaves,no pollutioncontrol, ,gargantuan profits while they turn planet into third world slum.  why do u think the top 400 richest here in fascist amerika, have as much wealth as the bottom 150 MILLION.... Fight back against these goon motherfucker criminal owners,Support these guys. Why SHOULD THE  1 per cent , be allowed too steal the wealth of the country, the whole planet, and  laugh all the way too their secret off shore banks.
TheLance3185 (4 years ago)
They should have filed a grievance en masse, not left the terminal without drivers. Reagan did this to air traffic controllers.
bug splat (4 years ago)
As a union guy for most of my working life, now retired in my 60's', I've watched for the past 35 years the continuing dismantling of the labor/union movement. 30 years of largely conservative run economic policies, with an activist conservative high court, has produced many millions of American blue collar jobs shipped out of the country; over the boarder and overseas. There's been an open and ongoing conspiracy to destroy organized labor led by Wall Street, and billionaires whose idea of economic progress is to have a permanent underclass. An underclass that has little choice and, even less voice to accept the scraps from their table. The recent trade negotiations currently going on behind closed doors is just another Wall Street led screwing of the American worker in progress. With yesterdays 5-4 Supreme Court ruling on continued unlimited money allowed on political campaign spending, means they will continue to outright own your politicians. Organized labor is not a dirty word but a chance to a fair shake at the bargaining table for a living wage. Unfortunately, unions, like our democratically elected representatives, requires one to participate actively and, in an informed manner to affect change. If you're not willing to do these things, then for sure the rich will continue to rape the middle class they have been for the past 30 years.
blkcoupequattro (4 years ago)
Oh the bad press UPS, image, image, image, UPS used to care about it customers, it's employees, and it's image, the share holders of yesterday are rolling over in their graves, corporate greed is a evil, evil thing...
WonderDean (4 years ago)
Jay, you work to live you do not live to work. I know of only three reasons for immediate termination in a union contract and that is stealing, intoxication and possession of illegal drugs. Otherwise there is a disciplinary procedures that you have to go through. It sounds as if you have incompetent management there and their days will be numbered. Think of how much it cost to hire and train just one employee then multiply that times 250 and that's what that supervisor is suggesting. They call that incompetence .
jlrockafella (4 years ago)
who da fuk is JAY? did you not read this ?...   "I also belong to a Teamsters Union and the same thing also happened to our manufacturing plant when ALL of us were FIRED for not accepting obamacare and 5% pay cut. So we did something the UPS did not do and that is NOT COME BACK for them to train replacements. If the UPS had any BALLS they would have stayed out until they reached an agreement like we did. We were out of a job for 5 months and we knew that the company could not run with out us. We even saw a few new hires there but that was not enough to run a good production. Even the supervisors where trying to be machanics LOL in other words we made the company lose a shit ton of $ and they eventually wanted all of us back. In the end we got better health plan with blue cross and 3% pay raise! UPS acted too cowardly and they get what they deserve for not standing their ground other wise you already lost and should'nt have walked out in the first place. I mean what did they think was gonna happen?"
jlrockafella (4 years ago)
I also belong to a Teamsters Union and the same thing also happened to our manufacturing plant when ALL of us were FIRED for not accepting obamacare and 5% pay cut. So we did something the UPS did not do and that is NOT COME BACK for them to train replacements. If the UPS had any BALLS they would have stayed out until they reached an agreement like we did. We were out of a job for 5 months and we knew that the company could not run with out us. We even saw a few new hires there but that was not enough to run a good production. Even the supervisors where trying to be machanics LOL in other words we made the company lose a shit ton of $ and they eventually wanted all of us back. In the end we got better health plan with blue cross and 3% pay raise! UPS acted too cowardly and they get what they deserve for not standing their ground other wise you already lost and should'nt have walked out in the first place. I mean what did they think was gonna happen?
Thurgor Supreme (4 years ago)
We need to start having union-owned businesses so these dimwits can see the ends of their own destruction and balance their "worker's rights" accordingly.
WonderDean (4 years ago)
UPS will lose this argument in arbitration and those employees will get all back pay as well. A union contract is an agreement between the employer and the employee on the conditions of employment. The keyword here is agreement! The only people don't like unions are those who want to exploit their workforce or suck-UPS.
Jay Mack (4 years ago)
I work in this bldg. and this is not the whole story. I wish I had time to tell it all. but many drivers have been fired unjustly before this incident. Jairo was doing something he shouldn't have. management told him to stop he kept on and got fired. He is a close friend to liam russert and the union. Liam without authorization from the union local president and the IBT pres. and called for a walk out. in a piss contest. we have been working without a new contract since july 2013. if the union wanted to strike it should've went on strike then. The company will not loose. this happened before in another bldg. two years ago. The one who caused it was out of a job for 10 months All was forgiven then UPS said don't let it happen again. now this. Guys knew better or should have. So I don't blame UPS nor do I agree with it, but the union business agent put these guys jobs on the line and now they are loosing them. Management told them if they walk out they will be fired... This is it in a nut shell
gbppitt (4 years ago)
 The union activist should have thought more carefully about biting the hand that fed him. That was a great paying, Family supporting job. The 250 will be historic. The union is probably negotiating their future as we speak. UPS and the teamsters have partnered for about 50 years. Insubordination is a terminal offense.
Jay Mack (4 years ago)
no they are not. The union has no clue what to do. This is why they are reaching out to city officials for help. trust me all of this could have been avoided
jokehim himjoke (4 years ago)
Hang on there are supposed to be laws protecting jobs and procedures with unions. Surly unions can actually take UPS to court putt all information about UPS in the press around the world so every one knows what this company is really like to work for. To me if working a long time in a company the companies try and get rid of that person so don't have to pay extra when they retire. Once all companies used to have workers for life but now companies seam to be like slavery all over again. The world has gone backwards no protection for any workers anymore and laws are dropped by elected officials and that is wrong. Because if not putting people and health first then no one will be doing that job as dead or not enough people to work. This is very poor practices by major companies in the world and just as bad than countries we complain about like India China so on people loose everything.   
April Lamba (4 years ago)
Finally! How the hell can you walk off from work and making inconvenience to others. UPS is a not a great service in a highly competitive field. I'm sure they will get more people to work their jobs as the economy is as sucky as it is. AND at 2:25 you said exactly what I was thinking, this job is UNSKILLED, which means anyone over 18 can legally do that job, why would you want that type of job as a career as you can be easily replaced -_- geez people these days.
midcenturygirl (4 years ago)
Why trust a Union for anything? They're useless.
Amy Loves (11 months ago)
+midcenturygirl SCAB and that's why pay is lower right now.
Amy Loves (11 months ago)
That's a lie. CWA has assisted me when I needed, which was only twice. I don't have to file grievances. I work it out with my management team. It helps though they can't just put a temp or new hire in my position. It'll cost them too much money, time and clients. A temp can't come in and access the files, systems and applications which I can. It goes against the FCC.
James Fenian (2 years ago)
+Xenophene01 None of that applies at UPS
midcenturygirl (3 years ago)
smith wesson (3 years ago)
Go away ......im done with you
Chazreal (4 years ago)
I thought unions were supposed to be about " hanging together instead of seperately" unions hold no validity without paticipation unity of the members.
jokerrabit (4 years ago)
um NO! I wont be using the m to ship my shit no more.
Han Boetes (4 years ago)
So they fired 250 guys and asked them to stay for the time being? They should have gone on strike on the spot to show them they can't do that. Work should be like a mariage, give some, take some. Not like slavery. 
jedgarsquink (4 years ago)
I always say people need to pay more attention to resulting acronyms when they name businesses.  If you're handling people's parcels, do you really want to call yourself "Oops"?  Still, I guess that's better than what you get when you pronounce Toyota Racing Development's initials. 
psiklops71 (4 years ago)
FedEx+Ups= fedup yes give them back their job's back 
Goon2006 (4 years ago)
Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast!
Nathan Callidor (4 years ago)
Of free market free market, until its my wages and life then its , oh the unions oh the unions I have to say free market capitalists have got to be some of the most short sighted, genocidal egomaniacs history has ever known. Takes a special kind of stupid to think unregulated resource use of any kind would be good for any society wanting to last longer than 500y. Let alone the effects of take it or leave it free market style employment options. Doesnt force any kind of morality or fairness from employers at all.
Al Tinfoil (4 years ago)
Union power has been decreasing for decades.  With globalization under "free trade" agreements, the high-paying jobs and upward mobility that sustained the middle class have been lost to Mexico, then China, and other 3rd-world nations. Competitive pressures from start-ups and non-union companies has been used by union employers as a bargaining argument against their own unions.  Sadly, often unions are now more concerned about keeping the union office supplied with union dues than they are about protecting union members.  Companies equipped with computer monitoring systems and staffed with pencil-neck graduates with degrees in workplace management, or MBAs, are pushing workers to maximize productivity, sometimes using unrealistic idealized computer models of business activity as reference points. High unemployment puts the employers in the position to say to the workers : " Take it or leave."  
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JB Murdock (4 years ago)
Oh yes, they are using GIS to heavily monitor them nowadays, they expect their workers to be like robots and not human anymore
Katie Crumley Weaver (2 months ago)
Geographic Information System
daniel mejia (6 months ago)
JB Murdock what's gis?
PrincessTS01 (4 years ago)
how is that legal
Maggie Joseph (4 years ago)
Currently there are so many desperate unemployed Americans and hiring companies recognize that.... so they handle all employees as if they're worthless and expendable... they're mentality is if one employee quits 5000 applicants will be glad to take his position for lower pay.
Amy Loves (11 months ago)
Ands that what they do, no benefits, no vacation time and get talked to crazy by union members or ignored.