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The Truth About Working for UPS EXPOSED!

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David talks about what it was like working for United Parcel, which is a tough, dirty under-appreciated job.
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ilya (21 hours ago)
someone complaining about a job that they didn't need a degree, certificate, or intense specialized training for. go figure.
CompulsiveYoutubeWatcher (2 days ago)
I have been obtained by security for 3 hours. I kept asking for a telephone to call the police but they would not let me (and they do not let part time workers have cellphones. They though i stole something on my way out and detained me and then basically just let me go. I've been called a faker by our head of safety for having a legitimate injury. Just yesterday I was physically harassed by a supervisor. I left the area and told another supervisor and they told me to go back to work. When I was filing out a security report security actually questioned my work performance. I asked them how that matters and my union steward told me I dont have to answer it. So all in all its a very shitty place to work at run by very shitty greedy managers. The benefits are amazing, The pay is ok.
David Gudgeon (2 days ago)
They really don't treat you very well, that's for sure...
Email Linda (14 hours ago)
Interesting video.
Novocain95 (1 day ago)
I'm 5'11 130lbs and I've been loading the trailers for ups for almost a year now, the job is 100% psychological. If you walk into it not thinking positive it's going to be your worst experience ever, but if you're open minded it's really not that bad. Most people who quit within a very short time period think to themselves "how am I going to do a job like this for 5 hours 5 days a week?" That's incredibly demoralizing
David Gudgeon (10 days ago)
Management jokes that it's like getting paid to do a workout. But you reach a point where it's no longer a "work out", it's just "wearing out". Humping the trucks is like high-impact aerobics. The body wasn't designed to do that for 5+ hours non stop every day...
New York Giants Blood!!!! (11 days ago)
I started pre loader at UPS at 24 late last year and I started out making 11.00 hr. I feel like I should be making more considering the labor we go through. And we get 10 min breaks after 2 hrs btw. I only hate that we only get 5 seconds to be on the trucks. That's retarded.
David Gudgeon (11 days ago)
You should be getting more considering the labor intensity, and the break system should be structured better as well.
Qwanya Robinson (12 days ago)
I was unloading a trailer when the driver hooked up to it and pulled off with me in it u talk about scared shirtless😡
Vw Luvin (13 days ago)
22 years at ups , I started at $8.50 I'm now at $29.00 to do the same work he mentioned I do 8 hours in the hub. The job is physically demanding for sure, injuries are guaranteed. As far as being accused of stealing I have never heard of the kind of treatment he mentioned. We don't hear a single word if a package comes up short or missing unless it happens repeatedly. As someone else has already mentioned no one is forced to go there we all have the right to stay home or work somewhere else.
Josh Rowles (15 days ago)
Unloading the semi on intake is by far the EASIEST part of working in house. The real labor is loading the trucks. Its fast paced and you have to be able to organize in numerical order. I currently work loading waiting for my test to be a driver. When you unload the semi most of the packages fall on to the conveyor. You really only have to deal with irregular packages that don't go down the belt. What a pussy this guy is
Josh Rowles (15 days ago)
The misload is a problem because others are in your trucks at time. I always tell people to stay the fuck out of my trucks. Then when the super has someone come assist (cause I'm at the end w/ 4 trucks about 2,800 pieces) I just tell the super I AM NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MISLOADS IN THIS TRUCK. The rate they want is now 1/1000. Its not that hard
Josh Rowles (15 days ago)
I do however have an issue with the the union fees as a new member. My last 5 checks were less then 10$ due to fees and initiation fees. I'm paying for services as a member of the union. My problem is I have a year of fees and dues before I received any benefits. Its like paying your NETFLIX every month for a year before you can stream. Its BS.
Michael Wang (16 days ago)
24:00 Amazon Stock raised quite in this year's financial report ~ Guess they have moved away from UPS?
David Gudgeon (16 days ago)
They have been delivering their own packages now...
C.Foster (17 days ago)
I've bust my ass at UPS for 11 years now. But sometimes when I'm on my way to work I pray they send me home early LOL.
JackedJoker (23 days ago)
I almost worked for UPS but after reading that I'd have to work in the warehouse for 7ish years before I could actually make a living and said screw that and now I work for DHL as a driver. I don't make as much money as a UPS driver but I don't have to deal with half the BS that they do. Management is awesome. We get donut Wednesday and during Christmas they always thanked us for our hard work. I wish the money was better but it's the best Job I've had.
CaptainCalico (27 days ago)
u look like negan
David Gudgeon (23 days ago)
I get that a lot.
Josh Shellenberger (29 days ago)
You must have worked in a really shitty hub or you were just a garbage employee. I started out as a seasonal driver and after Christmas was over I was "laid off". A few months later the hub manager called me said he had transferred to another hub and would I be willing to work there as he needed people. He said it's not driving but part time preload but he could get me a few extra hours. I said sure so I worked 4-8am sometimes he would have me run airs or run late loads out to other drivers it was great. Sometimes I would work just preload but come in at 11pm and work till 8 am. So you are wrong because every night I worked 8 hours I got my break. Everyone did. At 3am the whole hub would shut down and everyone would be on break.I can also say that our union was strong. I was shop steward for 2 years and if I even said the word union in front of a part time sup or driver sup or even the hub manager their tone would immediately change. Just my 2 cents.
Gnotic27 M (30 days ago)
Same as Amazon. Terrible place to work if u work on dock, load n unload from truck
David Gudgeon (27 days ago)
I've heard that.
the kid (1 month ago)
Ha!! Driver bitchesssss!!!
Slurry Noises (1 month ago)
if you were actually working hard you wouldn't of been freezing :p
Greggjodi Gomes (1 month ago)
Our cousin works for UPS , he makes real good money and works hard
John Skogman (1 month ago)
I'm surprised they have a unionat all.
John Skogman (1 month ago)
Scott, did you make the min wage the whole 7 yrs? (8-9/hr?
John Skogman (1 month ago)
Scott, it took 7 yrs???
Grant Joe (1 month ago)
Purolator was the same but i was at top rate 22.10 within a year (2005) I was also a truck driver on top of pre loading.
Senor Cardgage (1 month ago)
As a reg-temp driver they handle me with more kid gloves on preload than the other non-drivers on preload. I feel sorry for them honestly. The company has treated me well so far but most of your points are valid, especially at large hubs.
Senor Cardgage (1 month ago)
I'm a reg-temp driver and he is correct about the no break part. I was so happy to get my peak route and leave preloading for a month.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
A lot of people don't want to believe that...
Ercan Kilic (1 month ago)
Auburndad50 (1 month ago)
I can't comment about working conditions at UPS but I can say you are absolutely correct about unions.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
I have a video about my union experiences, (I have been involved with four of them)... https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=kq3rO3ldb74
alstang (1 month ago)
I have been working for UPS for 9 years. I love working there. If you put in the time you get rewarded. This is not a place for old people or the weak.
Andrei Plesa (1 month ago)
just finished work for UPS Netherlands. Same thing that this guy is saying.
Dan Holmes (1 month ago)
Truth Warrior (1 month ago)
Hey David, I currently work at CACH UPS at Hodgins, IL and I can confirm what you said is true. I'm not going to reveal my identity because I still work there. I'm a hard worker but management is terrible and the union isn't representing anyone. I know a guy that worked at UPS for 14 years and still can't become a full timer. I hate my job a lot but I'm planning on going to college soon so I technically can't leave. As long as I work my 3.5 to 4 hours, I'm good. Thanks for the review David.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
A lot of people are torn on my UPS videos, they love them or hate them. There are many die-hard UPSers who think that it's some kind of badge of honor to get pounded between the company and the union and still be standing.
richmond283 (1 month ago)
Everything he said is true I was a loader for two years at ups only thing I liked was the benefits it's a bunch of bitching from the supervisor the big supervisors come down and curse and talk so much to the supervisors below them they just take it like a bitch the turn over rate is high af they started me with big 8.50 I end up having 12.75 when I quit a lot of ppl did no call No shows I would average 1,000 -1,500 packages at the end of the shift everyone else 600-800 but wanted to complain about some damn pph but have you moving all over the building the expectations aren't realistic at all they slave the hell out of you for 150 a week no more then that I had checks come up short had times where I couldn't get my check until Monday and we got paid on fridays the union was bullshit didn't help only thing positive I have to say is some of the co workers are great especially the older ones ppl there lack work ethic the benefits are the best
Mary Allen (1 month ago)
Management at any job that I have ever worked for always gets by with all kinds of shit and that's bullshit! Unions are definitely not worth a damn even though you pay union dues! Yeah I used to work for UPS and it's terrible!
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
There are some real hard core UPSers out there that would strongly disagree. They think they have proven something because they managed to stick it out for over a decade before finally earning a half decent wage for the labor, even though they are still part time!
Gary Wonning (1 month ago)
Whiner, I worked there for 27 years, great job, hard work, not for sissies.
MegaEunit (1 month ago)
haha, if you think that the preload does the brunt of the labor you are retarded.
Wyatt Brown (1 month ago)
as an otr driver I don't drive for ups but see the trucks every day/night. They and FedEx drivers are some of the worst drivers on the road. always over speed limit even in construction, hardly ever use turn signals, tend to cut other drivers off.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
They are under a lot of pressure to keep a time table that is difficult on account of how over loaded the trucks are.
Mddlclss Wrkr (1 month ago)
so basically you've screwed up with four different Union's maybe the problem is you
sean russo (1 month ago)
get over your self scott I drive a truck n you drivers drive like ass h//es... very well for my family. PLEASE..... your brown nosing matches the color of your uniform...
SuperBigblue19 (1 month ago)
How anyone could call a job loading trucks for $9hr In 2016-17 good, shows we got a bunch of union shills on this comment section I started out as a dock worker at Viking frt systems back in 89 making $11hr 6mos later they trained me to drive city p&d at $15hr no dues and the management was strict but fair.  And no union political BS. Worked for union BHD and they sucked bigtime. Telling us to slack or the management might want to ad stops.  Rampant nepotism and playing favorites on bids. Screw the unions. LTL and package  is going more non-union everyday.
SuperBigblue19 (1 month ago)
Well they do treat the drivers good but at the expense of other employees. I am not suggesting loading trucks should pay great since it is entry level. But  $9 hr is ridiculous.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
Sometimes I think some of the comments put on the UPS and Walmart videos are from corporate people who's job it is to find videos like mine so they can try to discredit them.
Ray Haynes (1 month ago)
David, can u please make a 4 th.ups video for us ? I really enjoy listening to your Ups experiences!! I know u covered a lot in your previous videos but maybe u can touch a bit on different types of grievances the employees can file with the union & the reverse discrimination problems in conjunction with favoritism & the way ups violates drivers & even warehouse workers Seniority, wrongful termination & sexual harassment. Thanks U !!
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
There is a fourth one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBnDUP2B4d4
BILLY BOBCAT JR (1 month ago)
You wetbacks come from Mexico to America so you think you're rich if you make 10.00 a day, and a lot of UPS dick suckers on here to.
BILLY BOBCAT JR (1 month ago)
John Gomez, its easy for you wetbacks y'all use to working the fields for two dollars an hour.
AZTRUCKER89 (1 month ago)
i would like to correct you on a some things, #1. amazon doesn't have it's own delivery service because of customer complaints, it's because it's cheaper and they can service their customers better. #2 union or not companies still have to abide by labor laws, that's not s union controlled thing, if you aren't getting your minimum breaks and the union isn't helping you still have the right to make a complaint with the labor board, regardless of any agreements they still have to at minimum comply with labor laws. #3 yes, the teamsters do favor drivers over packers but you have to consider that in most cases packers aren't going to even be around long enough to become vested so of course they are going to cater to the ones that are going to be around longer. #4 road conditions often can jar properly loaded packages loose which would inadvertently cause them to fall out when opening the door, these roads are not smooth. finally, it doesn't matter that things don't go missing very often, without security doing checks then perhaps things might start to go missing more because people know they aren't going to be checked, as far as management not being searched, i can speculate the reason is because they have very little direct contact with the packages.
lovelygirl2141 (1 month ago)
I had NO idea UPS was so awful!!!!  I will NEVER ship anything through UPS again!!!
scjruiz (1 month ago)
Just work at ups freight, easier work and a little bit better starting out pay
18266609 (1 month ago)
great story. however I do agree with the workers being searched. have heard a lot of stories about packages being stolen at ups
John Gomez (1 month ago)
Dude how can you seriously complain about a company that gives you an opportunity for growth and a possibility to become a driver and make 100k plus. Of course it's going to be hard at the beginning but well worth it in the long run. Being a ups employee it's sad to see bitter employees who complain. If you don't like it then don't work there. That's the problem is that no one wants to work hard and they #itch like you do. Guess you should complain on them paying ur tuition for school, pension plan and health insurance too. Work hard pays off. Quit complaining
Dennis Nease (2 months ago)
I thought this was gonna be the truth about ups. It's just a disgruntled employee. Yes ups is a screwed up company who doesn't care about anything but making money (even when employees suffer who get in the way of that) .. but this man doesn't really know the truth like he claims. He just knows his job sucked. Or he sucked at his job - you decide.
Atari5732 (2 months ago)
interesting, I worked for GoodWill picking up donations on a truck for about 3 years. We spent 10% of time packing the truck correctly, nothing ever fell out of the truck when we unloaded. And we picked up everything from pool tables, to large glass, to clothing. So it wasn't even in easily stacked boxes.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
You were probably never rushed the way UPS employees are. With them, speed is everything, even if it compromises quality.
Benny Robinson (2 months ago)
I never had any desire to drive for UPS, there are better driving jobs!
Amithrius (2 months ago)
Negan for president
David Anderson (2 months ago)
With your 9+ dollars an hour you also got health care benefits, retirement contributions, paid holidays. Better than Fed-Ex.
Jared Ramsey (2 months ago)
Amazon, for its Now service drivers is using a 1099 subcontractor model where you are responsible for your own vehicle and insurance. Its a part time job, where you could work full time hours. The warehouse workers can not be classified as subcontractors given their working conditions so they rely on large numbers of entry level workers. And therefore some benefits by ACA order. What giant super inflating corporations do is build on large numbers of entry level paid positions and marginalized subcontractors to grow market share. Their retail business operates operates on profit margins below 2%. Their Server farm business is however more profitable, not mentioning the Amazon Prime TV business. Amazon is less than 20 years old. But Has grown exponentially expanding into many industries. Like a bubble, and they tend to pop. UPS is a infrastructure rich, cash rich, 110 year old company that has innovated most modern shipping practices. Its employees are mostly unionized permanent employees (except management and seasonal hires who get first crack at permanent positions) who enjoy generous compensation packages for their hard work. Which include paid holidays, personal days, sick days, paid vacations, healthcare; vision, medical, dental, mental, and prescription coverage, Union 401k retirement savings plan, and company Pension contributions, also basic catastrophic life insurance to cover employee burial costs. And if they follow the contract grievance guidelines and stand up for themselves when an errant management employee acts up they enjoy union representation. And many excellent opportunities to keep their jobs after sometimes they may make grave mistakes. Top pay in my district is approaching $37/hr. WE just had a record Quarter. WE just scored a couple key retail contracts. WE ain't going nowhere.
Howard Whatley (2 months ago)
i'm glad that a lot of you like working there.but your company is last on my list, i live in a rural area,if anything is shipped UPS i won't order it.in one case we saw him pass and my wife waited for his return the road dead ends he said he sat it by the mail box at the end of our road and was not going back for it.i went no it wasn't by a mail box he tossed it in the weeds i'd never found it expect i knew it was there somewhere.i you pick it up at the ware house you only have a small window like 4;30 to 6;30 pm
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
They can be rough on packages, that's for sure...
Pxndx Lunx (2 months ago)
i would not last as a preloader, my back is already bad as it is, mechanic it is
steve evans (2 months ago)
I would never work for UPS
ebarnes419 (2 months ago)
$37 an hour?????
ebarnes419 (2 months ago)
David Gudgeon I interviewed for a delivery driver yesterday. had to go get c class license today. wish me luck!!
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
For drivers, I'm in the Chicago area.
Cj Cook (2 months ago)
I've been working at UPS for 4 months now at the airport. The job is hard labor at first but if your actually bending your knees and actually using the 8 keys to lifting and lowering you'll be fine. Yes management is on your ass that's because they want to keeps there job 2 it's about the customers. At the end of the day if you get your package late you don't care why someone is having problems or the work is hard you want the product you payed for so take that how you like. I've been moved from loader to pick off which is a dollar raise. Work hard , don't bitch it's a WAREHOUSE not home . If you don't like it leave but Know you'll wish you had stuck it out and make sure to wear gloves whatever department you're in.
CEF Fr (2 months ago)
Anyone watching this video thinking about UPS employment I have some advice (Varies from hub to hub) 1. Unloading on Preload is the *EASIEST* job at ups period. because A) Unloading is the easiest job... and B) Preload (this guys sort) is the easiest operation. 2. NEVER ARGUE WITH MANAGEMENT... If they cross the line ask for your steward and say nothing else. 3. (and most important) *ALWAYS FOLLOW SAFE WORK METHODS NO MATTER WHAT* It is always possible to finish the job on time with a safe and team oriented attitude anyone who tells you otherwise is a fucking retard. Like everyone else said it is a hard job mentally and physically however because UPS and the teamsters are BOTH very very shady organizations you have to develop solid relationships with both your stewards and management because they cut corners, lie, and cheat to do what they need and protect their own asses. *AND ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS MEMORIZE YOUR CONTRACT AND KEEP YOUR CONTRACT ON YOU AT ALL TIMES AT WORK* --Oh I almost forgot If you're a fat piece of shit, an elder, or a pussy do everything you can to get your sorry ass in small sort where you belong XD Nice vid btw pretty accurate :p
*Epic_Penetration* (2 months ago)
I'm sorry you had to go through all that Sh!t BROOO...
Kyle Hunt (2 months ago)
Go work for the big boys over at Fedex
houstonfob2FOREVER (2 months ago)
Holy shit dude you must of gotten the short end of the stick because I work there in small sort and it's easy as pie.
garycoulier (2 months ago)
EXPOSED?  What did you expose?  It's hard work and doesn't pay a lot to be a loader at UPS?  Your title makes it sound like something illegal was going on.  I worked a job for 8 years that was physically and mentally draining.  I worked 14 to 16 hours a day during the spring and fall, and at least 12 hours during the summer - and it was a salary position!!!  Yeah it sucked big time.  Want to know what I did about it?  I got a new job.  I don't mean to sound insensitive, I know jobs are hard to find right now, and believe me I do feel your pain, but give me a break!  Anyway, hope you now have a job you enjoy and pays more as well.
Joe Cally (2 months ago)
when Wall Street runs your company you have no chance everybody is a number . including management part Times full times and the Union is a non-factor, try filing a grievance you are harassed and followed until you're fired
jeffw1267 (3 months ago)
If the waiting list is so long to become a UPS driver, then apply for the post office. Once you become a regular, which usually takes about a year and a half, you have the same rights as all the other regs (though you have to be a reg for 12.4 years to max out your pay). You'll get all your breaks and the union is very strong. You start out as a CCA at $16/hr and max out at $28/hr. We also sometimes work in low-light situations but you can wear a headlamp. The trucks and stations are filthy here too but that's part of the job.
Anonymous Anonymous (3 months ago)
177 butthurt sheep 🐑!
joe vaughn (3 months ago)
Been a package handler for UPS 8 months now and going to Intergrad in 2 weeks to become a driver. Becoming a driver only after 8 months is just the luck of the draw or good timing but it is awesome. UPS has the greatest benefits of any company out there.
King Reef (3 months ago)
i sense a pussy can handle a man job
Jacob Stull (3 months ago)
I really don't understand. A job is a job. You don't go to work and expect to get a manicure. This is how people get their deliveries. Focus on your job, don't cry to your mom, don't cry to the Internet. No one cares about how you broke a nail. This goes for every job. 12 hour job, 20 minute break? you want 3, 15 minute breaks, and a 30 minute lunch? Good luck living in your fantasy world.
Payton Hedrick (3 months ago)
Your just a pussy
one shot (3 months ago)
12 hour shift and you get a 20 minute break 😂 I'm getting a job with ups! "Dream job"
Samira Scarlett (3 months ago)
and UPS will give you $25,000 for your education, to those calling them uneducated. its up to you if you want to sleep on that.
Samira Scarlett (3 months ago)
I currently work in the primary (unload) and Yea its hard work. some trailers are a mess, some are filled with smalls that take forever to get rid of, its dirty..you get dirty...you will eff up and lift incorrectly..hurt yourself...but at the end of the trailer you feel like you've accomplished something. at least I do. I'm 33 and definitely wish I had started working here when I was 18. its better when you're younger. regardless, I still would like to stay and move up. it's a great company in general. there's money to be made if you can hang in there.
R. H. (2 months ago)
Samira Scarlett I have worked in many places... and considering the level of labor with the rate of pay... UPS is by far the worst job I have had...
deadbeat1980 (3 months ago)
HAHAHAHA!!! I've worked in the UK for UPS for 10 years and it is EXACTLY the same!! I do morning and evening shifts and try so hard to make things work, but the conditions are terrible.In the evenings, I load 3 trailers on my own, handling an entire warehouse of parcels and it's mental!! I know perfectly well how to load a trailer properly.....but it's not possible, also they have don't have nets to hold that shit in, that's why you have 12 feet of parcels falling on top of you. Morning shifts a bit better, but it's the 'luck of the draw'. I'm lucky at the moment, my line-manager's real cool and so are my drivers........but most of them are complete wankers.
Lukas L33 (3 months ago)
True about Teamsters. They suck. When I got fired they didnt want to take my case to arbitration. It took them 2 months to see my manager AFTER I got fired. Teamsters are biggest legal criminal organization in the World.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Here's a link to my union video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq3rO3ldb74
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I've got an entire video talking about my experience with unions, (I have been involved with four of them). Whatever they were when they were first needed back in the 19th century they are not that anymore...
Crab ppl (3 months ago)
So you're a pussy?
NoneOf YourBuisness (3 months ago)
You basing all this on just your experience,so if the job sucked you made it suck.I worked for UPS on and off since 2004 and they work you no different than any other place works you.Good luck getting a job in the future,nobody is going to hire someone who complains about having to work on Youtube!!
Feeder Driver (3 months ago)
Wow, might want to consider a career in bloviating, your good at that.
Richard Closure (3 months ago)
Fuck UPS! I used to be a Package Car Driver and Air Driver. Fired with negative rehire status...
Richard Closure (3 months ago)
David Gudgeon FUCK EM!
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
A lot of people seem to have that attitude about UPS...
Kevin Bengson (3 months ago)
What a weak little worm of a man.
Cliff Fowler (3 months ago)
Rick Grimes used to work for UPS?
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
You've got to start somewhere!
TRILLIN FLOSSIN (3 months ago)
Dude you should be contacting the Labor Board if they were denying you breaks. I work at UPS (driver) and we take all of our state labor law breaks everyday. I look forward to going swimming during my paid breaks everyday during the summer. Sounds like you had a really shitty experience. I only had to work part time a for a short time before going driving, I was very lucky. Honestly I probably wouldn't have stayed if it was a 7-10 year wait here. The preload seems like a total clusterfuck.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I've had a lot of feedback on the UPS videos. Evidently some of the hubs are run well, and others are worse than my experience. I guess it depends on where you are and who's running that particular hub.
Garrett Ferguson (3 months ago)
Never once in my life working at UPS heard of a hub sort working more than 12 hours, especially a preload sort. And never getting a break? Every sort has a mandatory 10 minute break and if a sort is over 8 they usually give two breaks.
watcher206 (3 months ago)
Indiana is a right to work state. However, the only regulations that they have for breaks is the federal laws. The only thing the Federal laws say that if breaks are provided any break under 20 minutes must be paid. So the breaks in Indiana are unregulated for the most part, yikes! However, they do have break requirements for those under under the age of 18 but that's a different set of laws.
mike watters (3 months ago)
this moaner is the reason u go to school
mike watters (3 months ago)
i used to work for fex ex until i got fed up
HeadrushProductions (3 months ago)
all Hail Neegan!
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
If I could just get a little "kneel" from you...
Guitarriff1988ii (3 months ago)
They didn't make you turn in your badge?
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Evidently pre-loaders aren't important enough to worry about a badge.
bevan rogan white (3 months ago)
I work at a supermarket in NZ i'm not a manager or supervisor and i earn $16.75 per hr. The NZ minimum wage is $14.75 Everytime i hear how much people earn in america I gasp! 9 dollars an hour for the kind of work you were doing??? that's just freaking nasty. And the firing culture in america! Compared to my county it seems waaay too easy to get fired in america.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
There are more workers than there is work, so people with unskilled jobs become expendable. That's the reason so many Americans are concerned about illegals from South America crossing the boarder and taking jobs. It's like, the average labor jobs are already worthless, how much cheaper can they get? Just as an example, I talked with a former UPS employee who had the same job I did but he started in 1980, at $12:30 per hour!!! Now 30 years later the same job starts almost $3 less, (and this is with a union)? Something is really wrong with all of it...
Magikzz32 | Gaming (3 months ago)
you look like negan in the walking dead
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I've been getting that lately.
Kialen055 (3 months ago)
Worked at UPS and FedEx and Airborne Express/DHL in my 20's...They were bad places to work Fedex being the best out of all of them and DHL being the worst. Looking back on that time I would never want job security that bad. Stay in school and finish your degrees it pays off way more.
anthony ritter (3 months ago)
so glad i work at fedex
richmond283 (1 month ago)
anthony ritter man I loved fedex I worked at ups for two years a bukllshit job only complaint I had with the FedEx I worked at was favoritism
anthony ritter (2 months ago)
David Smith thats awesome man. my manager told me to stick around more hours will come but its just a waiting game. i really enjoy the job. i work one of the hottest doors in my facility. its just fun. itll go from an even flow to just getting fucked with a million small packages that gotta be scanned before that next load. its more of a game/work out that i get paid then a job. i just love it man
David Smith (2 months ago)
Ahh, that's pretty lame. Im a courier in Wasilla, AK. Our station is really small with maybe 12 of us so hours aren't an issue hete. We also do all the duties instead of seperate positions, but we all make over $20/h because of that so its really good here.
anthony ritter (2 months ago)
David Smith its great. sucks dick right now because we have way too many employees at my facility so youre only getting between 9 and 16 hrs a week. a facility closed and joined with an existing facility because plans fell through so now theres almost 3x the required employees. i make 12.85 right now. few more weeks itll be 13.10. peak season was great. i was pulling 600 to 700 take home a week.
David Smith (2 months ago)
anthony ritter Right! I love working for FexEx. I've also heard alot of bad things from the UPS driver on my route.
Tyler Caban (4 months ago)
I don't know where you people work for ups but over here in ny, seasonal drivers get 18.75 an hour and preload gets 11.50 and driver helpers get 10.15
Brian Brown (2 months ago)
Tyler Caban I think it goes with the cost of living. Employees in more affluent areas make more to keep up with the cost of living. In Chgo, we make about $35phr but in the south they probably make less because the cost of living is less.
Tyler Caban (3 months ago)
jeffw1267 and your absolutely right. i agree with you to an extent. for driver, 18.75 is worth it when your guaranteed 8 hours and you only have 140 stops and your done by 3:00. however during peak, it's not worth it. as far as preload goes, it's not worth it. i have a full time job and i'm just working preload for the benefits. it's pocket money the money you make as a preloader/package handler. literally spare change
jeffw1267 (3 months ago)
$18.75 sucks considering the difficulty of the job, and $11.50 and $10.15 is a joke.
gatewaysolo104 (4 months ago)
Unions are horrible. They are just as bad as the employer. They just suck up the dues so they can load the pockets of the big union boss and give all dues to political candidates that don't represent me or my values.
David Gudgeon (4 months ago)
Unions are how you end up with your candle being burned at both ends. The employer on one side, the union on the other, and all the labor in the middle.
cvc (4 months ago)
People would steal so easily at our UPS. They'd toss the product over/under the fence, wayyyy before the shack. I'd find electronics all over the place at the edge of fences.
cvc (4 months ago)
My best friend got hired off the street. He was so lucky....he fucked up 4 weeks into it, and got into a small wreck, and was put into gruntwork, and quit in a week.
cvc (4 months ago)
I did the same thing when I was 17, was a grunt, barely out of HS. Same exact thing. Started with long trucks, then moved to air containers.....ALWAYS air cointainers for me. I honestly didn't mind as much as the other guys, and the taller guys and I would gladly swap sometimes. I could fit inside the air containers with very little effort , yeah I'm short. heh
David Gudgeon (4 months ago)
I'm like 6.1 so the air containers were tough on my back.
Randy Beltran (4 months ago)
10 years ago, A UPS driver rear-ended my sister-in-law and totaled her SUV. She was okay, no injuries. The driver who was African American, was actually upset even though it was his fault! Since then, I haven't seen that driver.
Kittymeister 〈EpicMoon339〉 (3 months ago)
yeah race has nothing to do with that
cvc (4 months ago)
Because he probably lost his job.....wouldn't you be upset? Just had to bring up race in it didn't you....
HasinaiMan (4 months ago)
You're preaching to the choir, brother. Good post btw. I endured three Xmases at UPS in night sort, preload, etc. Cracking the whip, mistreatment and disrespect was the typical modus operandi of management who seemed very unappreciative, often accusatory and unfair. After my first Xmas, my roommates thought I should have gotten into body building because I was ripped with the six-pack to prove it but it took a toll on my body. (btw don't you think it's foolish for wimpy male management to anger and physically challenge someone as physically strong as most of the people who move heavy boxes for 6+ hours?) After the third Xmas I swore I would never go through another one and never have. Btw the union was a joke out West, on the East Coast I worked in a strong union city and the union had my back but you're basically a pawn between the union's and management's games, no matter how good of a worker you are. Initially, I got lucky and had a good upper management guy who looked out for me because I worked hard, but after he retired I was left twisting in the wind. As for the searches, after getting the third degree needlessly once without absolutely any merit (being an honest person scores no points with these cretins), I was stopped at the guard shack, where they were searching everyone, I stated, "I've clocked out, I'm on MY TIME and I'm leaving. That's my car over there, call the police and have me arrested so I can sue you for false arrest. DO IT, I DARE YOU!" Of course nothing happened, they've got no huevos when it comes down to it, besides they know they mistreat people for no reason, they deserve the bad employees they have because they run off the good ones by treating them like caca.
David Gudgeon (4 months ago)
I've heard from lots of UPS employees, (former and current) who say that I'm pretty much spot on. I also get a handful of people saying that I'm a wimp because apparently I didn't like getting ground up by UPS, and I'm supposed to like it for some reason...
Ninja Man (4 months ago)
im a seasonal driver helper and every year they lower the pay this year the lowered to 9.75 from the 11.11 and took away our uniforms. we were supplied with nothing except a flimsy little vest with holes. its crazy how UPS expect to delivers in a brick loaded box truck full of shit with next day air in the center of it in one day. i quit friday
Kyle Reynolds (5 days ago)
some areas are different. redmond,wa hub paid 13hr with $250 bonus each week. Plus a $300 bonus for working the week after Christmas.
Glenn Brito (12 days ago)
Ninja Man because we have foos off the street that say fuck the last pay check and never return the uniforms
Problica (2 months ago)
I was a driver helper and got $15 an hour
sneakergod the great (3 months ago)
Brandon Mitchell I did it weeks
King Reef (3 months ago)
Ninja Man pussyyyyy
Nick727 18491849 (4 months ago)
they treat drivers like dogs. till you are cripple. claim all about safety all bullshit throw in truck. when you get hurt it's ur fault accident. it's ur fault I drove for 17 years clean. (no accidents) I have scene mangers that can't drive personal vehicles tell YOU things about safety that they read off paper. memorize but couldn't demonstrate to save life if u. clueless female than they promote you to center Manger FINALLY GOT JOB STILL WITH COMPANY. 22 YEARS RAMP WORK. 2 DIFFERENT WORLDS. THEY ACTUALLY SEEM TO LET YOU BREATH.
Battle Cam (4 months ago)
I almost worked there, I walked out of the interview after I found out it was going to be part time...
David Gudgeon (4 months ago)
Just about everyone in the distribution centers is part time.
Adam Tattrie (4 months ago)
You gotta be tough both mentally and physically for this job.
Adam Tattrie (1 month ago)
zibaduaahh Its not slave work. If you're a good worker, UPS will promote you. They love hiring internally. Driving is the way to go if you ask me. The pension is well worth it. Preloading, sort, unloading, etc are pretty crappy jobs but you gotta stick it out. Almost all the drivers I know started as a preloader.
zibaduaahh (1 month ago)
Being tough is different than being shit sucking slave.
Tristan Long (3 months ago)
especially a route driver i went ofr my 30 days this past summer. the hardest thing i have ever came acrossed
TheCheck43 (4 months ago)
Yup, he seems older, so its not as easy for him.