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The Truth About Working for UPS EXPOSED!

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David talks about what it was like working for United Parcel, which is a tough, dirty under-appreciated job.
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Anonymous Anonymous (13 hours ago)
177 butthurt sheep 🐑!
joe vaughn (1 day ago)
Been a package handler for UPS 8 months now and going to Intergrad in 2 weeks to become a driver. Becoming a driver only after 8 months is just the luck of the draw or good timing but it is awesome. UPS has the greatest benefits of any company out there.
King Reef (3 days ago)
i sense a pussy can handle a man job
Jacob Stull (3 days ago)
I really don't understand. A job is a job. You don't go to work and expect to get a manicure. This is how people get their deliveries. Focus on your job, don't cry to your mom, don't cry to the Internet. No one cares about how you broke a nail. This goes for every job. 12 hour job, 20 minute break? you want 3, 15 minute breaks, and a 30 minute lunch? Good luck living in your fantasy world.
Payton Hedrick (3 days ago)
Your just a pussy
one shot (6 days ago)
12 hour shift and you get a 20 minute break 😂 I'm getting a job with ups! "Dream job"
Samira Scarlett (8 days ago)
and UPS will give you $25,000 for your education, to those calling them uneducated. its up to you if you want to sleep on that.
Samira Scarlett (8 days ago)
I currently work in the primary (unload) and Yea its hard work. some trailers are a mess, some are filled with smalls that take forever to get rid of, its dirty..you get dirty...you will eff up and lift incorrectly..hurt yourself...but at the end of the trailer you feel like you've accomplished something. at least I do. I'm 33 and definitely wish I had started working here when I was 18. its better when you're younger. regardless, I still would like to stay and move up. it's a great company in general. there's money to be made if you can hang in there.
deadbeat1980 (9 days ago)
HAHAHAHA!!! I've worked in the UK for UPS for 10 years and it is EXACTLY the same!! I do morning and evening shifts and try so hard to make things work, but the conditions are terrible.In the evenings, I load 3 trailers on my own, handling an entire warehouse of parcels and it's mental!! I know perfectly well how to load a trailer properly.....but it's not possible, also they have don't have nets to hold that shit in, that's why you have 12 feet of parcels falling on top of you. Morning shifts a bit better, but it's the 'luck of the draw'. I'm lucky at the moment, my line-manager's real cool and so are my drivers........but most of them are complete wankers.
Lukas L33 (9 days ago)
True about Teamsters. They suck. When I got fired they didnt want to take my case to arbitration. It took them 2 months to see my manager AFTER I got fired. Teamsters are biggest legal criminal organization in the World.
David Gudgeon (9 days ago)
Here's a link to my union video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq3rO3ldb74
David Gudgeon (9 days ago)
I've got an entire video talking about my experience with unions, (I have been involved with four of them). Whatever they were when they were first needed back in the 19th century they are not that anymore...
Z Moe (11 days ago)
So you're a pussy?
NoneOf YourBuisness (14 days ago)
You basing all this on just your experience,so if the job sucked you made it suck.I worked for UPS on and off since 2004 and they work you no different than any other place works you.Good luck getting a job in the future,nobody is going to hire someone who complains about having to work on Youtube!!
Feeder Driver (15 days ago)
Wow, might want to consider a career in bloviating, your good at that.
Richard Closure (15 days ago)
Fuck UPS! I used to be a Package Car Driver and Air Driver. Fired with negative rehire status...
Richard Closure (14 days ago)
David Gudgeon FUCK EM!
David Gudgeon (14 days ago)
A lot of people seem to have that attitude about UPS...
Kevin Bengson (16 days ago)
What a weak little worm of a man.
Cliff Fowler (18 days ago)
Rick Grimes used to work for UPS?
David Gudgeon (17 days ago)
You've got to start somewhere!
Dude you should be contacting the Labor Board if they were denying you breaks. I work at UPS (driver) and we take all of our state labor law breaks everyday. I look forward to going swimming during my paid breaks everyday during the summer. Sounds like you had a really shitty experience. I only had to work part time a for a short time before going driving, I was very lucky. Honestly I probably wouldn't have stayed if it was a 7-10 year wait here. The preload seems like a total clusterfuck.
David Gudgeon (17 days ago)
I've had a lot of feedback on the UPS videos. Evidently some of the hubs are run well, and others are worse than my experience. I guess it depends on where you are and who's running that particular hub.
Garrett Ferguson (18 days ago)
Never once in my life working at UPS heard of a hub sort working more than 12 hours, especially a preload sort. And never getting a break? Every sort has a mandatory 10 minute break and if a sort is over 8 they usually give two breaks.
watcher206 (18 days ago)
Indiana is a right to work state. However, the only regulations that they have for breaks is the federal laws. The only thing the Federal laws say that if breaks are provided any break under 20 minutes must be paid. So the breaks in Indiana are unregulated for the most part, yikes! However, they do have break requirements for those under under the age of 18 but that's a different set of laws.
mike watters (21 days ago)
this moaner is the reason u go to school
mike watters (21 days ago)
i used to work for fex ex until i got fed up
HeadrushProductions (21 days ago)
all Hail Neegan!
David Gudgeon (20 days ago)
If I could just get a little "kneel" from you...
Guitarriff1988ii (22 days ago)
They didn't make you turn in your badge?
David Gudgeon (21 days ago)
Evidently pre-loaders aren't important enough to worry about a badge.
bevan rogan white (22 days ago)
I work at a supermarket in NZ i'm not a manager or supervisor and i earn $16.75 per hr. The NZ minimum wage is $14.75 Everytime i hear how much people earn in america I gasp! 9 dollars an hour for the kind of work you were doing??? that's just freaking nasty. And the firing culture in america! Compared to my county it seems waaay too easy to get fired in america.
David Gudgeon (22 days ago)
There are more workers than there is work, so people with unskilled jobs become expendable. That's the reason so many Americans are concerned about illegals from South America crossing the boarder and taking jobs. It's like, the average labor jobs are already worthless, how much cheaper can they get? Just as an example, I talked with a former UPS employee who had the same job I did but he started in 1980, at $12:30 per hour!!! Now 30 years later the same job starts almost $3 less, (and this is with a union)? Something is really wrong with all of it...
Magikzz32 | Gaming (26 days ago)
you look like negan in the walking dead
David Gudgeon (26 days ago)
I've been getting that lately.
Kialen055 (28 days ago)
Worked at UPS and FedEx and Airborne Express/DHL in my 20's...They were bad places to work Fedex being the best out of all of them and DHL being the worst. Looking back on that time I would never want job security that bad. Stay in school and finish your degrees it pays off way more.
anthony ritter (29 days ago)
so glad i work at fedex
Larry Martin (23 days ago)
ups for the long haul fed ex if you want the quick money. (or a beard as a drive lol)
Tyler Caban (29 days ago)
I don't know where you people work for ups but over here in ny, seasonal drivers get 18.75 an hour and preload gets 11.50 and driver helpers get 10.15
Tyler Caban (2 hours ago)
jeffw1267 and your absolutely right. i agree with you to an extent. for driver, 18.75 is worth it when your guaranteed 8 hours and you only have 140 stops and your done by 3:00. however during peak, it's not worth it. as far as preload goes, it's not worth it. i have a full time job and i'm just working preload for the benefits. it's pocket money the money you make as a preloader/package handler. literally spare change
jeffw1267 (2 hours ago)
$18.75 sucks considering the difficulty of the job, and $11.50 and $10.15 is a joke.
gatewaysolo104 (30 days ago)
Unions are horrible. They are just as bad as the employer. They just suck up the dues so they can load the pockets of the big union boss and give all dues to political candidates that don't represent me or my values.
David Gudgeon (30 days ago)
Unions are how you end up with your candle being burned at both ends. The employer on one side, the union on the other, and all the labor in the middle.
cvc (30 days ago)
People would steal so easily at our UPS. They'd toss the product over/under the fence, wayyyy before the shack. I'd find electronics all over the place at the edge of fences.
cvc (30 days ago)
My best friend got hired off the street. He was so lucky....he fucked up 4 weeks into it, and got into a small wreck, and was put into gruntwork, and quit in a week.
cvc (30 days ago)
I did the same thing when I was 17, was a grunt, barely out of HS. Same exact thing. Started with long trucks, then moved to air containers.....ALWAYS air cointainers for me. I honestly didn't mind as much as the other guys, and the taller guys and I would gladly swap sometimes. I could fit inside the air containers with very little effort , yeah I'm short. heh
David Gudgeon (30 days ago)
I'm like 6.1 so the air containers were tough on my back.
Randy Beltran (1 month ago)
10 years ago, A UPS driver rear-ended my sister-in-law and totaled her SUV. She was okay, no injuries. The driver who was African American, was actually upset even though it was his fault! Since then, I haven't seen that driver.
Kittymeister 〈EpicMoon339〉 (17 days ago)
yeah race has nothing to do with that
cvc (30 days ago)
Because he probably lost his job.....wouldn't you be upset? Just had to bring up race in it didn't you....
HasinaiMan (1 month ago)
You're preaching to the choir, brother. Good post btw. I endured three Xmases at UPS in night sort, preload, etc. Cracking the whip, mistreatment and disrespect was the typical modus operandi of management who seemed very unappreciative, often accusatory and unfair. After my first Xmas, my roommates thought I should have gotten into body building because I was ripped with the six-pack to prove it but it took a toll on my body. (btw don't you think it's foolish for wimpy male management to anger and physically challenge someone as physically strong as most of the people who move heavy boxes for 6+ hours?) After the third Xmas I swore I would never go through another one and never have. Btw the union was a joke out West, on the East Coast I worked in a strong union city and the union had my back but you're basically a pawn between the union's and management's games, no matter how good of a worker you are. Initially, I got lucky and had a good upper management guy who looked out for me because I worked hard, but after he retired I was left twisting in the wind. As for the searches, after getting the third degree needlessly once without absolutely any merit (being an honest person scores no points with these cretins), I was stopped at the guard shack, where they were searching everyone, I stated, "I've clocked out, I'm on MY TIME and I'm leaving. That's my car over there, call the police and have me arrested so I can sue you for false arrest. DO IT, I DARE YOU!" Of course nothing happened, they've got no huevos when it comes down to it, besides they know they mistreat people for no reason, they deserve the bad employees they have because they run off the good ones by treating them like caca.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
I've heard from lots of UPS employees, (former and current) who say that I'm pretty much spot on. I also get a handful of people saying that I'm a wimp because apparently I didn't like getting ground up by UPS, and I'm supposed to like it for some reason...
Ninja Man (1 month ago)
im a seasonal driver helper and every year they lower the pay this year the lowered to 9.75 from the 11.11 and took away our uniforms. we were supplied with nothing except a flimsy little vest with holes. its crazy how UPS expect to delivers in a brick loaded box truck full of shit with next day air in the center of it in one day. i quit friday
sneakergod the great (1 day ago)
Brandon Mitchell I did it weeks
King Reef (3 days ago)
Ninja Man pussyyyyy
Brandon Mitchell (8 days ago)
Ninja Man I was going in at the hub as a pre loader and get off then do the driver helper all peak long. I worked 21 hours one day
Be No (17 days ago)
its 15/hour for driver helper here
Kyle “the” Catholic (27 days ago)
+steve b well, I'm satisfied with how much I'm getting. I wish it was a year round position, but im in a rather rural area so I'm not really even needed during peak season.
Nick727 18491849 (1 month ago)
they treat drivers like dogs. till you are cripple. claim all about safety all bullshit throw in truck. when you get hurt it's ur fault accident. it's ur fault I drove for 17 years clean. (no accidents) I have scene mangers that can't drive personal vehicles tell YOU things about safety that they read off paper. memorize but couldn't demonstrate to save life if u. clueless female than they promote you to center Manger FINALLY GOT JOB STILL WITH COMPANY. 22 YEARS RAMP WORK. 2 DIFFERENT WORLDS. THEY ACTUALLY SEEM TO LET YOU BREATH.
Battle Cam (1 month ago)
I almost worked there, I walked out of the interview after I found out it was going to be part time...
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
Just about everyone in the distribution centers is part time.
Adam Tattrie (1 month ago)
You gotta be tough both mentally and physically for this job.
Tristan Long (16 days ago)
especially a route driver i went ofr my 30 days this past summer. the hardest thing i have ever came acrossed
TheCheck43 (1 month ago)
Yup, he seems older, so its not as easy for him.
Adam Tattrie (1 month ago)
Im very young so I like working for UPS. I am currently a preloader and I get paid $11/hourly. Theres also a $100 weekly retention bonus nowadays :) the only thing that really sucks is the holiday season. Im trying to fit close to 340 packages on each of my trucks! It's crazy man but nah UPS is a good job. I can see myself chillin here for a while
Larry Martin (23 days ago)
hang in the bro.. i almost quit like 5 times now that the recession is over driving positions are coming a lot faster than they did for me.
dave miller (1 month ago)
I worked for ups for 20 years. as a driver and it sucked.those trucks are ovens in summer ice boxes in winter.i remember delivering at 1 in the morning at Christmas Eve.ups sucks.my son was in hospital and had to have surgery on his lung and I was told that if I didn't come in and do my route I would be fired that's after 20 years well my son comes before a brown box and the next day I was called in to managers office snd was told I no longer had a job there and I said bullshit you cocksucker I quit.fuck them.the Dame thing happened when my mother died it took them 4 hours to come out to get me that was before cell phones 1987.they treat you like shit.and fuck the teamsters they don't do shit for you.a and I scratched every single day and always delivered my air on time.christmas time I would go out with ,300 stops and they give you a helper for 3 hours big fucking deal
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
There are a lot of people who worked for that company who have a lot of negative things to say about it. It's a shame. I know that when you get the better positions there it pays more, but sometimes the extra money isn't worth it.
Christopher Diehl (1 month ago)
If you're a college student this is the perfect job for you working in the warehouse they help pay for school and it's helped me out so much! I work local short but it's peak season so I'm doing both for extra money. I have no complaints it's actually not that bad of a job. I've had worse.
ITz LDUBZ (1 month ago)
my problem is my team leader or anyone that comes into my trailer to help me keeps giving me misloads on purpose to test me and they keep getting me and the people who come into help me also talk to me so I end up scanning misloads cause my mind ain't properly on the job.
ITz LDUBZ (1 month ago)
David Gudgeon I totally agree.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
I've had that one. They are put on your trailer to help but they don't care and they make a mess...
alex black (1 month ago)
In Toronto Ontario very few drivers make the top money because they have supervisors making sure you never work there for more then one year, so UPS don't have to pay top dollar for drivers. How do you know? UPS is always hiring drivers 50 of them every 6 months. The Union sucks. I was the last driver to quit after 49 other drivers were let go just b4 me. UPS only hires on the p/t basis even when they make you work full time hours.
Andy England (1 month ago)
This dude is a joke bc it all depends on the facility you work for. Some facility's do a lot more packages then others. As a driver you make triple time on holidays. As part time I get full benefits. Vision dental and health and I'm givin a retirement plan all for part time
Chris Ryan (1 month ago)
Man, Ive seen tv's and computers thrown like its nothing. When it's clearly a fragile expensive electronic too. Theres no regard for things. May be some what of a personal question but what did you do for work after leaving UPS?
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
jose dominguez (1 month ago)
fuck this job thanks David Gudgeon
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
It's not easy and the rewards that they promise are years away if you can stick it out. It's not for everyone, that's for sure...
david williams (1 month ago)
As a drivers helper. Im considering this. I just started yesterday and im already being rushed about the damn diad
Devin MC (1 month ago)
The hub isn't the best place to work far from it. However, I don't mind being a driver helper that much.
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
Some of the hubs are pretty rough environments.
Gesse Jilmore (1 month ago)
I once had 7 trucks at once for like 2 weeks straight. it sucks
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
Yes it does!
Daryl Presley (1 month ago)
I work for UPS David and I'm really considering leaving the job
Paul Pivaral (1 month ago)
on my contract it says a 10 min break every 3 hrs...dont know why you arent getting a break...only full time get a 30 min break every 4 hrs
Maurice Gamble (1 month ago)
I've been a preloader for 6 wks now and I was surprised that we don't get a break during the 1am-9:30 shift. I currently work 3 trucks, I couldn't imagine loading 4-6 trucks. I'm waiting for my background checks for both American Airlines and TSA, I hope to be leaving UPS by January. This job is really hard on the body
David Gudgeon (1 month ago)
A lot of people don't seem to like the job, although I hear my hub was particularly bad.
Ronnie Morse (1 month ago)
how long did u work for ups?were u fired or did u quit?while some of ur comments were true a lot of ur facts are not.ups is meant to get in young and get out young just a thought.
Sh4rp27 (1 month ago)
Also, as for not receiving a break, I find that hard to believe. Unless you have terrible union reps on site, here you get 10 minutes every shift (less than 6 hours), after 6 you get another 10 minute break, after 8 you get a lunch (30 minutes). We have to payout grievances for shortened breaks when our announcements run over.
Larry Martin (23 days ago)
usually in the building they just pay you out your breaks instead of you actually taking them.
sportsfan6554 (1 month ago)
Sh4rp27 you really don't I know from experience
Sh4rp27 (1 month ago)
Your write up you mention for misloads is not disciplinary. Your signature is used as proof that the misloads had been reviewed with you. The only time those forms would be used against you is if you developed a pattern of misloads which is hard to do unless you truly don't care to do your job right. Then those forms would be used as evidence so that the union could see that the company took all available measures to correct the problem and that you were made aware of the problem. Granted, if your particular hub/center doesn't utilize scanners to track who loaded what or the misloads were unscanned then they shouldn't be having you sign them they should simply be reviewing them with you as well as anyone else who was loading that truck.
Jon Segoviano (1 month ago)
Your a pussycat........ that's it. work is work..... UPS IS THE SHIT FOR HOW WANTS IT........ UPS UPS UPS
Reydesel Valdez (2 months ago)
I'm going to be honest I don't believe your exaggerating. But to be fair it also depends on the hub that you work for. It appears to me that you worked in a hub with a broken system. I'm a supervisor at UPS and trust me when I say this in that my hub is extremely regulated and the union does a wonderful job in protecting and bumping raises for laborers. For every 60 cent raise a supervisor gets an hourly gets a dollar. Yes it is true that the drivers get the real money and yes at the beginning the job is very hard, but that's the point. Everyone and I mean everyone starts as a grunt as you called it, but once you have an opportunity you apply for another area. Lastly I'm confused by what you meant about misloads. In my hub every loader has a scanner on them with their ID submitted into the system, so when a loader gets a misload it identifies who last scanned it. Every supervisor is required to meet production and service numbers and it is our responsibility to keep ourselves and our workers accountable, however no supervisor must abuse the laborers and instead we must learn to coexist and reward our workers accordingly. Lastly, you mentioned that you never had breaks, now this is a problem that must be addressed in your hub as they are required to give you a break(my hub gives breaks). I appreciate your opinion and enjoyed your video.
steve b (27 days ago)
Reydesel Valdez Misloads aren't just things in the wrong truck. In the wrong PART of the truck also counts.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
Not all the hubs are the same, my stories are based on my personal experiences. And I didn't leave on account of the labor either, I left because of a 100% garnishment on my check. I tried to reason with payroll & human resources both at the hub and by calling the headquarters, but they would not make an adjustment, (even just enough for gas money, was costing me $25 a week round trip). After a couple of months of this it just didn't make sense to stay there any longer. I have a video showing my zero UPS checks.
Reydesel Valdez (2 months ago)
David Gudgeon, Ahh thanks for that information and I'm glad you left that abusive hub sucks you weren't in mine Dallas Texas Hub. Anyways I subscribed.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
My hub was in Palatine Illinois. I am no longer working there now.
lanteri salvatore (2 months ago)
I'm soon entering my 7th year it's been nothing but a ride since it's demanding it's hard work back breaking nerve racking you got be up and ready everything it will possibly throw at you each and every day definetaly not for everybody but it's a good job
lanteri salvatore (27 days ago)
+steve b just started my 7th year at ups yes it's hard but worth it
steve b (27 days ago)
lanteri salvatore It's GREAT for people who want to work for ONE THIRD of what the job is really worth.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
It's not for everyone, that's for sure.
Luke Tecpa (2 months ago)
David you literally just stopped me from proceeding with an interview I had scheduled with ups. thank you for saving me the headache
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
A lot of people give me a hard time about the UPS videos, they think I'm lazy because I didn't like it. But those same people don't really contradict my description of the working environment.
Succ My StickShift (2 months ago)
can you buy mail trucks? like on of the usps mini trucks?
Succ My StickShift (2 months ago)
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
I'm not sure if they sell their surplus trucks the same way that usps does.
Tone Knee Lee (2 months ago)
I worked UPS for a year as a truck loader back in 1999. I did an average of 1,200-1500 boxes a shift. Being skinny is the best body type for the job. I eventually became belt sorter. A little more pay but it was more stressful mentally. I now have carpal tunnel now because of that job.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
Ouch, sorry to hear that they burned out your nerves. Any chance of disability from them?
Viktor Jamison (2 months ago)
David, how long did it take you to fully get the hang of the preload position? I've been working at my local UPS as preloader for the past 3 weeks and I just can't get the hang of it. The heavy physical part doesn't bother me, it's having to keep up with all those damn boxes and packages bunched up together on the belt, and making sure you put them away in the right truck and shelf before the rest of the other boxes on the belt don't end up out of your reach. I'm going to give it until the end of November, and if I still can't get the hang of it by then, I'm just going to put in my 2 week notice.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
It took me about a month, but I was being divided between two different departments. It may take longer in your case because you are coming into the holiday season, so there will be more and more stuff coming in every week increasing the work load as Christmas approaches.
Robert Henry (2 months ago)
Given a choice between union and non- union I'd pick non-union. I've worked in both environments and the thing that stands out the most from my experience is that in a union shop every one is treated equal, regardless of your performance (seniority rules). And there is typically this friction between management and labor. In a non-union shop everyone is treated based on individual performance. There's more of an open-door policy between management and labor. I'd take the less money any day. And the union is just "Controlled Opposition". They give the illusion that the employee has a voice. They don't!
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
In the hub where I worked you got more for helping. I'm not sure about the driving history. There is a waiting list to become a driver, the length of time may differ from city to city. In ours it was a 7+ year waiting list.
Falo (2 months ago)
+David Gudgeon Here in Riviera Beach, Fl the loader gets $11 p/h 5hrs a day and driver helper gets $10.15 p/h 3-10hrs a day. The closer to holidays the longer day you have otherwise its about 3hrs+ a day. Do drivers need a 3yr driving history before becoming drivers? I just got my license back in February '16.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
I would lean more towards a driver helper if possible. As a helper the pay is a little better, plus you get some experience on a route which will be helpful towards if you ever qualify as a driver.
Falo (2 months ago)
+David Gudgeon thanks for reply, but should i do both load and be a driver helper?
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
WalMart was fairly easy in comparison labor wise. UPS is very labor intensive, and the management is on you, unlike my experience with WM where the management was no-where to be seen most of the time. UPS will also criticize every single mistake you make, which can be very frustrating at times. UPS does have better long term potential, but you will typically have to wait some time for it to pay off.
John Days (2 months ago)
HOw the drivers go to poop while on duty, in the truck by using a Zipoc BAGGGGG ??? or get the nearest McDonalds in their GPS ?
juice3335 (2 months ago)
lol if drivers have to poop they can go to a McDonald or any public restrooms some do pee in gatorade bottles though, they do sometimes hire drivers off the street but its a rare occasion you can also do driver helper during Christmas time but its just seasonal work
John Days (2 months ago)
So there are better job positions than driver delivery that can match or go beyond that pay rate and I don't wan to poop in Ziploc bags while on duty, no thanks....
Cereal (2 months ago)
ive heard its worth it, but theres a 5+ year waiting list to become a driver. So you have to bust your back for at least 5 years before you get the chance to become a driver
Marvin Calloway (2 months ago)
+David Gudgeon im 19 is it worth it driving the trucks at ups
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
Fortunately I never found that kind of a jar!
elm1sterio (2 months ago)
I work for ups ramp (Louisville) biggest airport facility in the world it's amazing but ups jobs don't work with lazy people that don't want to work and are always complaining
theangryemonerd (2 months ago)
unloading is the easiest job at ups. you were also talking about sorting which are the people in the middle who throws the boxes on the right sides that go into different trailers. im a loader, I scan and load to the trailer. I have to scan at least at 215 pph for now (packages per hour) they want me to go at 300 later on which no one scans at that pace. I go in at 11:30 pm-4 am. I sometimes have to do bulk mail on my own and Im a pretty small. its bullshit because during cornerstone training they lie and say you will have someone to help during bulk mail. the boxes fly out of the belt and my way to exit the trailer is filled with boxes and its hard to get out. I haven't had any misloads yet. UPS is totally bullshit. I don't see myself working there in 2017. Actually you do get a a break. We get a 10 minute break since Im part time. my ups isn't terrible but the job is really fucking hard especially Mondays and tuesdays when we get heavy flow. The UPS here they only hire drivers that have worked at UPS only. They have let me out early lately by like an hour since Im a month new there. they made a new UPS facility near by so lately we have less flow lately which Im kinda glad. those trailers are definitely dark as hell. I get annoyed when my manager and trainer tell me the same shit everytime to go faster. My manager sometimes goes in and even scans for me while I watch him show off his loading skills. it can be annoying. loved this video. There are some things I do agree with
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
Every hub is a little different, but the consensus is that it's not the best place to work for...
ChelesCheryPie (2 months ago)
I hate to break it to you , But the employer does NOT have to give you a break or a lunch and can fire you for NOT working overtime . You failed to mention that if you work over 5 hrs a shift at U. P . S it's overtime and my wife work,s at ups .
Kellie Martell (2 months ago)
hey thanks for the heads up Def having my bf quit today!!! he's a loader and absolutely hates it
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
It's not for everyone, that's for sure...
Jacob Dalgaard (2 months ago)
been a driver for ups, a tough fast paced job but the best pay job i ever had, thinking of going back driving for them, enjoyed the job, the atmosphere and the collegues. edit: didnt quit bc i was a pussy but because of temporary health issues.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
I was there for over a year. I left because of a 100% garnishment on my check that UPS would not adjust. I have a separate video about it where I show the pay stubs.
Josh Roles (2 months ago)
24min of crying about a job when you could of left and got a diffrent one.
Andy England (1 month ago)
Josh Roles this dude is an absolute cry baby.
john jj (2 months ago)
I worked for USPS as a city carrier assistant. I drove the truck and had a different route everyday when I was 25. Very stressful job and had no fulfillment in my life walking my life away putting mail in slots. I'm 28 and I changed my job to parks. I work outside in nature and I make $65,000 a year. I took some classes at my junior college in the field. Life is what you make of it. If you find yourself not happy with your work, have the courage to change careers
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
Good advice
OG Juxx Psycho (2 months ago)
Fucking people are so lazy these days.
JMP78 (2 months ago)
Go work for FedEx. It's better cause they are not governed by a union. Similar working conditions yes but they treat you better and they will work with you.
David Gudgeon (2 months ago)
Thanks for the tip!
zoecalifornia (3 months ago)
You work your way up in pay. I work the ramp and the hub as a combo. I get paid very well. We will end up at over $30 an hour when our contract is up. I have been there 16 years and only tried package car driver and it wasn't for me, although the pay is much better. lol But I am in the Ontario California hub, we may be paid different than other states and locals. I love my job and I make great money. Oh and I am not a supervisor. 😊
jose ramirez (1 month ago)
zoecalifornia gotta instagram lol
zoecalifornia (1 month ago)
+EJAY199221 lol thanks
EJAY199221 (1 month ago)
zoecalifornia you're fine asf
zoecalifornia (3 months ago)
+David Gudgeon They are David. And in some parts of our sorts are run different. My old sort we took break everyday. My current sort, we don't take break, but they pay us 15 minutes for it. And we never work over 6 hours without a lunch break. If we happen to, they pay us a 1 hour meal violation. But I am in california and our local is 36. They let some stuff slide as long as UPS pays us the extra for it I guess you can say.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I've been hearing that some of the hubs are run differently in other states.
Brian Skeem (3 months ago)
This guy makes a lot of true statements about UPS but this job is not for anyone that is allergic to hard work. I've been working there almost nine years, made my way up to the driver position and my only regret is I didn't start at a younger age. If not for their awesome medical insurance I would owe 40,000 dollars from a personal bad car accident but thanks to the insurance I paid about 50 dollars for a couple copayments. They run a tight ship and get after you for every little thing but if you do your job like expected the pay and benefits are very well worth it.
steve b (27 days ago)
David Gudgeon The insurance is only INdirectly through UPS.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Looks like the insurance worked out well for you.
Patrick Ecraela (3 months ago)
UPS is hiring package handlers would you recommend this job to me? I can work part time or fulltime.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
UPS mostly only hires part timers, and their turnover rate is very high because of the working conditions. They will tell you that the job is tough, but they will not go into details about "how tough" it actually is. They sidetrack you by telling you that it's like getting paid to do a workout, which is true I suppose if you think that a medium impact aerobic workout should last 5-6 hours without stopping, (longer during peak seasons). Some people are fine with this so it's really up to the individual to determine if they want to bother or not.
Eric Hoffman (3 months ago)
fucking whine ass. it's gonna be hard work. you knew that before hand. Being a package handler requires no mental skill whatsoever. As long as you can breathe and blink, you have the job. same shit with fedex.
That (3 months ago)
From what Iv'e heard, you just didn't know what a Union Stuart was or how to use them. Maybe also you didn't make it through the initiation fee process till your seniority date so how can you talk shit about a union you never were in? =o
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I was there for over a year. I left because of a 100% garnishment on my check that UPS would not adjust. I have a separate video about it where I show the pay stubs.
vikings844 (3 months ago)
Not sure what he exposed?
vikings844 (3 months ago)
They weed out the weak to see who could make it as a driver! This dude failed the first test now he is probably working at Taco Bell
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I was there for over a year. I left because of a 100% garnishment on my check that UPS would not adjust. I have a separate video about it where I show the pay stubs.
Raider Chavez (3 months ago)
He is wrong we take all our breaks and lunches. The warehouse is hard work but you get raises every year and options to double with overtime after 6hrs for part timers
ivysj (3 months ago)
You can either hack it, or you can't. UPS employees work as directed. I've pre loaded, I've local sorted, and am now a driver. No job is an easy job. Stick to the methods, get help with over 70's, never sign anything other than your paycheck. If your steward is not doing their job to represent, then file a DFR.
Randy Jimenez (3 months ago)
Is it hard getting a driver position ? Is it worth working there ? Is it true drivers have to shave ?
J Cabrera (3 months ago)
Randy Jimenez i am a driver we shave every morning. Pay is great phenomenal actually not to mention the benefits. I love it. Great cardio definitely will lose alot of weight.
Randy Jimenez (3 months ago)
+David Gudgeon thanks for the information. I also heard delivery drivers have to shave
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
It's easier to get a driving position walking in off the street if they put out an ad for drivers than it is to be a loader on the waiting list. The waiting list for part timers and loaders/un-loaders is like 7-10 years, but UPS will hire off the street certain times of the year. A lot of people think it's like a badge of honor to kill yourself for little pay waiting for a chance to be a driver, (just because you qualify to try out for a driver position is no guarantee you will get it or keep the job if they give it to you). I personally don't agree. There is this delusion that you are being paid to do a workout, but after a couple of months you start to realize that all you are working out are your joints, and that there are possibly permanent side effects to that. If you are a college student, it is okay temporarily because of the early hours and the insurance and partial tuition payback programs, but I wouldn't want to make a career out of humping trucks. There are a lot of UPSers who pick on me for my UPS videos because I left after a year. They make fun saying I couldn't take it and ha-ha-ha, but not one of them ever disputes my descriptions of the working environments. If they want to get old and worn down early in life for WalMart pay that's their choice. As for the shaving, I've heard that, but I never asked any of the drivers if it was true or not.
mike richards (3 months ago)
Local 705 leaders suck!
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Part timers are considered expendable because most of them don't last long under the working conditions and usually quit. I suppose it never occurs to them why they quit so easily...
mike richards (3 months ago)
Sort of they care mostly about the full timeres they should do more to give part timers better pay and working conditions!
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
You've had a run-in with Chicago Teamsters I see...
notafraid06 (3 months ago)
And where in the country are drivers making 37 dollars?
notafraid06 (3 months ago)
David Gudgeon well I guess that makes sense, I'd want a bump in pay to deliver in places like Chicago (the bad parts). I've only delivered in ghetto areas a handful of times. I'll stick with suburbia
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
exsxpx1 (3 months ago)
How can he work so many hours without taking a break? People must have been keeling over.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
It wasn't easy, and it was one of the main complaints of the employees there.
Ethan Joe (3 months ago)
Liked an subbed
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Much appreciated!
edwin rldn (3 months ago)
it's almost a week before my Xbox comes in I pre-ordered it at GameStop and I have seen how even the truck drivers don't give two shits about the boxes literally the guy just dropped a full case of games when he knew he could of just been patient and done everything but separate he drop the Box and it opened dropping every game inside of it the GameStop employees didn't even say anything that you showed me that it's not the best idea pre ordering from somewhere that has their shipping from one of the worst companies known to man that exact person just rushes so he can get to the next order drop off i hope it doesnt happen to my xbox
callofdutyguy9 (3 months ago)
+David Gudgeon if I can't drop your package from atleast waist height without damaging the contents then it is not packaged properly.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I hope your xBox makes it in one piece! I never did like the rough and tumble way that UPS handles packages.
The Victim Card (3 months ago)
Wow much do managers make?
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Well thank you!
The Victim Card (3 months ago)
I see, you have a cool voice btw
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Not that much more by comparison for the dock supervisors or so I was told. Management positions above supervisor are supposed to be where the bucks are.
alfonso calderon (3 months ago)
So this was pretty much a bitch session because someone cant handle the labor. This stuff is easy. Yea it's fast paced sometimes and takes a lot of moving around, this job isn't for the weak or faint hearted. People who cry about this job being to hard had never joined the military especially as an infantry, much more intense work and labor and be lucky to even get a 10 minute break. I'm only getting 4 hours, wishing I had more but hell I'm aiming for that driver position and for 30+ dollars an hour, shit pack the truck however you like i'll take overtime pay too.
Ian McCallister (3 months ago)
Night shift loader here; this is some very dated info at least compared to Toledo inner workings.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I worked at the Palatine hub in 2014/2015 on the AM shift. Your shift, (twilight shift) is not under the same pressure.
honeybun33 (3 months ago)
i hated working 4 UPS. my driver was an a$$hole , all the people in administration are rude!! and he's right. the drivers make on average 30/hr and pay everyone else minimum wage. glad it was seasonal.
steve b (27 days ago)
Justin Clarke Unloaders ( and loaders) made THAT hourly rate in 1979.
zoecalifornia (2 months ago)
+Justin Clarke you've got a good situation buddy. Keep that good attitude. I'm glad it's working out for you.
Justin Clarke (2 months ago)
Sorry to hear that was your experience. I started working at the McKinney, Texas facility in July and I'm actually enjoying it. My benefits don't fully kick in until having worked for a year but they want long-term employees so I get that. I get paid $11.15 an hour as a Unloader, although I'm occasionally helping in sort aisle (no increased pay for this area although I know some facilities do that). And to my "specs", I'm 140 lbs, skinny as hell, and 17 years old.
honeybun33 (3 months ago)
+zoe sherrod if your happy there then good luck. the Forest Park hub in Atlanta is a couple of cents higher than a slave plantation. i regret ever setting foot on a UPS truck and when my time was over i felt like i was getting my freedom papers.
zoecalifornia (3 months ago)
Oh ok. I mean I work in a hub in California and we have worldport functions. I load as a combo, but it's not that hard for me. But everyone is different. I'm seeing that each hub and union local are different as well.
sportsfan6554 (3 months ago)
Try working in the morning working pre load it's a lot worse
sportsfan6554 (3 months ago)
David Gudgeon I've only been there a month and a half and I hate it. Workers there are already telling me how bad peak season is and I'm sure as hell ain't looking forward to it. And if I don't get a break for 10 or more hours straight I'm going to complain
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
I did, I typically got there around 3am.
TheGuitar1962 (3 months ago)
I was a UPS grunt in the early 1980's and made right at 12 bucks/hr.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
My how things have changed!
Dickies Santoro (3 months ago)
but did you die
90's Baby (27 days ago)
Dickies Santoro yeah thats not the point fuck butt
honeybun33 (3 months ago)
thats not the point.
Tony614 (3 months ago)
Why do you keep supporting unions that don't work for you? If you're working 6 hours, why do you need a break?
steve b (27 days ago)
David Gudgeon It IS stipulated.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
Some places don't give you a choice, in Illinois, you join the union or you don't work. As far as the break, it's the principal of the thing. If you were working a non union job the law says you are entitled certain breaks at certain times, unless you are in a union and they neglected to contract that stipulation...like with UPS.
Arlene Modafferi (3 months ago)
Our management get searched at the guard shack. Management are the ones that usually get caught stealing.
David Gudgeon (3 months ago)
If the employees are checked, then the management should be checked also, at every location.
Just Go North! (4 months ago)
This is OK review. Look, UPS is not for everyone, and you only work 4-5 hours every day, so this is a part time job to make extra money, which works for college students cause you have college tuition and free heatlth care.
Michael Obrien (3 months ago)
Just Go North!
Carson Reese (4 months ago)
I'm 21 years old and I'm a cover driver but still work 4 to 5 days a week. I started when I was 20 preloaded and as soon as I turned 21 they sent me to the school. I went from making 11.50 to 29. The work is hard but they pay is worth it. It's all in your head really.
Luis Campos (3 months ago)
Brian Brian (4 months ago)
that's what happen when ups wants to be the top dog. ups deliver ground and air and stay out there all day.
David Gudgeon (4 months ago)
They run their employees ragged to keep that slot! They can be really rough on their packages too.
RedLight GreenArrow (4 months ago)
There are two types of UPS workers, one who is very prideful and does a great job every time. And then the one who hates their job and kicks packages. I always seem to get the latter. One package arrived to me burned due to a train derailment. I'm guessing the derailed train also caught fire. They are still way miles leaps and bounds better than FedEx.
steve b (27 days ago)
RedLight GreenArrow So your package was burned( and the train derailed) because of a package kicker? Who was it, King Kong?
David Gudgeon (4 months ago)
They can be very rough on packages!