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Electric Cargo Bike camping- Pushing the range of an ebike 285 miles in 3 days

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I log 285 miles riding my Benno Carry on fitted with a BBSHD and 25.7ah 52v battery. Portland to Astoria (Fort Stevens) and back. 110 miles there in one day, 140 miles back and 40 miles exploring Astoria.
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Stephen Morton (6 days ago)
man, you turned that into an ordeal.
Stephen Morton (6 days ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut it was a roller coaster ride of emotions. 4 days would have been a breeze. stressful roads. was that a bobcat? they never mess with people. kudos for cranking it out.
JohnnyNerdOut (6 days ago)
I have a tendency to do that.
Block Chain (9 days ago)
Bro, awesome video. I have 52v50Ah lipo pack. with 1000w rear hub motor. going to 25 miles speed. how long do you think it can provide? I will pedal 25% going to long trip 140 Miles. The total bike weighs 30Kg and I weight 54Kg.
JohnnyNerdOut (9 days ago)
@Block Chain your battery should cut out around 43 volts.at 49v (without looking it up) your at about 35-40%
Block Chain (9 days ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut i also forgot to say when battery fully charged its voltage was about 58.8
Block Chain (9 days ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut Last 2 days I drived 70 miles in city at 25 miles speed the motor is consuming between 100w to 500w. now the current voltage 49V. I am just quit not understand does that mean my battery almost dead?
JohnnyNerdOut (9 days ago)
Damn, impressive. Going 25 mph probably 60 miles, maybe less if there's any hills. If you cut your speed to 15 mph and pedal you could probably get 200 miles
David Massey (10 days ago)
Awesome: super inspirational. Interesting to see what touring is like under power as I am in the process of adding a Bafang e-assist to my AZUB TRIcon recumbent trike. I did one small (285 miles) unpowered trip about 5 years ago. Got sick, so I could not finish the ride down to California from Oregon, but I've been itching to get back out there. I may see about a smallest charger I can find to carry in my single-wheel trailer. It's scary to tour, but fun at the same time. My first ride was one of the most fun things I've ever done. Be careful out there. Thanks for posting.
ziblot123 (17 days ago)
How do the restaurants act when you charge? "a lotta wierdos out" Do ya think? haha.Thanks for the good info, good luck to ya man, stay safe as you can.
JohnnyNerdOut (16 days ago)
They're fine with it,it's just an awkward conversation to have though...
Andy What's it (24 days ago)
I would not feel safe riding a bicycle on smelly fume filled, fast and busy roads. I'd opt for trails where possible but that's not an option with a battery bike.
bare dog (29 days ago)
hi, next adventure, think of solar cells on a trailor too extend ur range,,, it is all,ost the same price as 2 ex. battery packs,,,m,,,xxx
JohnnyNerdOut (29 days ago)
I'm thinking a solar generator hooked up to a slow charger (1amp)
Ra'ees Stemmet (1 month ago)
Love the vid. Something I would want to do when I get my Ebike
Asilazi (1 month ago)
Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed it.
Bike Boomer (1 month ago)
Very interesting video. Cool!
Clube do Pitaco (1 month ago)
If you buy a horse you make your life easy!
JustinFromArizona (1 month ago)
Modern day horse!
Edwin B. (1 month ago)
Check this guys set up out if you haven't already. Small solar panels on a low profile bicycle camper, multiple spare batteries. All in all looks like you had a good time and learned a bit doing it. https://youtu.be/yepY5Krhbtg
AJ Gonzalez (1 month ago)
Very good bro thank share this to us
Alex Caskie (1 month ago)
You nèed a hammock bro! Good for the back. Warbonnet hammocks are the ticket!
JohnnyNerdOut (1 month ago)
@Alex Caskie I'll have to check that out, thanks for the tip!
Alex Caskie (1 month ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut the Warbonnet Blackbird is some way cool kit, very light weight and super quick to set up and take down. Opens up a whole new arena for stealth camping ime. Plus the back issues went away using the hammock. Wet weather, heavy wind setting the tarp right can be tricky. I'm thinking about an ebike so I could carry a tent too. I'm still in minimalist mode bike packing on a surly troll. Cheers A.
JohnnyNerdOut (1 month ago)
I have a few hammocks actually! I've found that I like having a tent mainly because I don't have to worry about finding trees. Plus it takes up the same real estate on my bike. But yes, hammocks are cooler.
Scott Thomas (2 months ago)
Do you do anything special to weather proof the electronics? I'm thinking about using my everlast welder to convert my bike to electric.
JohnnyNerdOut (2 months ago)
All the electronics are water resistant to waterproof rated. So I didn't need to do anything additional.
Chazaq Yah Ahla (2 months ago)
How much did the battery cost you??
JohnnyNerdOut (2 months ago)
@Chazaq Yah Ahla probably 16-17mph
Chazaq Yah Ahla (2 months ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut thanks for the reply! My last question is how many mph were u going approximately??
JohnnyNerdOut (2 months ago)
About 850-900$ from em3ev
Philip Freeman (2 months ago)
You are making about the same distance as a sailboat.
Nicolas Jules (2 months ago)
Thanks for your story! Where it is at 18:33 ?
JohnnyNerdOut (2 months ago)
Great question! I believe somewhere between Jewell, OR and mist, OR.
DaveB (3 months ago)
Cool man! I don't know if you really did not want to use a trailer, but you could make a small platform out of an old child trailer and bring a super-small gas generator such as the Yamaha EF1000iS which is very light (27 lbs)! A few gas cans, and when you wind down at night you can recharge your battery even in remote areas. :) Just sharing an idea!
JohnnyNerdOut (3 months ago)
Ya, definitely a good idea for a XC trek. I personally would try to avoid using gas if at all possible.
steve gorkowski (3 months ago)
Great video and you made me think I should look into a power cord reel. I know you have a nice charger and a large battery but I would recommend you going with LTO cells . The batteries will take a fast charge. You could charge 5 times the amp/hour rating of the pack. My charger is a 1500w charger. My 19 a/hr pack will fill in one hour. You could go 20-25 mile/hr for 5hrs recharge 2-3 times
John Davies (3 months ago)
Get a small generator, put it on a small trailer.👍
Steve Shea (3 months ago)
You can add a standard electric car charging plug to your setup to get AC out of any level one EV car charging station. Ebikes.ca had them.last time I looked.
Universal Pioneer (2 months ago)
Can you provide a direct link? I'm trying to find what you are suggesting. Thanks.
ABORIGINAL ONE (3 months ago)
Why can't you use a portable solar generator and get a foldable solar panel?
JohnnyNerdOut (3 months ago)
Cheaper to just get another battery and hot swap. But yes, possible, and awesome if I had the money. The panel I have doesn't generate enough power vs. Size it takes up to be worth it.
Rock Lobster (3 months ago)
Get a Coleman sleeping cot, they're small and super comfortable, it's like a portable bed
Rock Lobster (3 months ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut np, keep up the vids👍
JohnnyNerdOut (3 months ago)
I'll have to check it out, thanks!
MrPElms (4 months ago)
I like videos like this very real life, not a annoying music video which alot of people put out.
psocretes (4 months ago)
That was an excellent trip. Have you heard of "The Sun Trip"? They use solar power panels to re-charge their batteries. The latest race was from France to China all on solar power. They typically have a 200 watt solar panel and the best do 300 kilometres a day with a Bafang 1000 watt bottom bracket motor. They are not allowed to use charging points. I am currently designing a touring bike (with trailer) not for the Sun Trip Race but just to tour Europe.They also design massive battery packs. You did OK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbla-cvicpE
psocretes (4 months ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut Hi, well I wasn't really suggesting that you should do the trip rather use their techniques to get better range without having to rely on being able to plug in to power sources. Anyway almost 100 miles a day is not to be sneezed at, well done.
JohnnyNerdOut (4 months ago)
Haha thanks! I have heard of that race, sounds awesome! Maybe one day......
Jim Busick (4 months ago)
Thanks Johnny for the great video. Lot's of useful information.
David Macdonald (4 months ago)
Download maps that works when no reception maps me, or i overlander
allen schmitz (4 months ago)
Im sure if you did PA-1 and use the gears you go slower but can milk the heck out of watt hr's. but doing those bizzy hwy's looks like a giant suck factor of screw this im in PA-3 and useing the throttle to boot..and what about the road side trash..and yea my ass gits sore after 25-miles and yea I would love to do/try what you did with your e-bike..your a pioneer in this type of riding..yea I have a Rad City step thru that has the total frame set up to do that kinda camping riding..lol' them plug in storys is what we want to know about..
James McDANIEL (5 months ago)
Great ride! I was discouraged from riding alongside cars due to the exhaust and kinetic dangers. A weak excuse, huh.
allen schmitz (4 months ago)
@JohnnyNerdOut YEA..THEY STINK.
JohnnyNerdOut (5 months ago)
Na, that's a legit reason.
pstocbob (5 months ago)
Awesome !! Well done...and the cat...you made the right choice to reverse course...live to ride another day !
IluxaS Superka (5 months ago)
motorcycle next time?
Rob K (5 months ago)
Cougars will stalk cyclist then leap from behind. You won't know it until they have you in their jaws by the back of the neck. With Cougars, you want to make yourself look big and loud. With bears, if they attack, you want to lie down on your face, with hand behind your neck and feet spread. The best thing to do is to carry bear spray, it works for cougars or bears. they don't like the sound of bells, like sleigh bells on the bike. and make noise as you bike because it will scare them off.
Rob K (5 months ago)
Nice ebike.. I just finished up my recumbent e-trike with a Bafang BBS02 750w 48v mid-drive. i have 52v 34ah GA battery packs. The best part is the Solar Charging Trailer I built. It has a 170w 29v 5.84a SunPower solar panel with a Genasun GVB-8 boost charge controller to take the 19v and boost it to 56.8v for a trickle charge in the sun. (really extends my range.. sunny..? :) youtube.com/watch?v=B_mtJNY88is Getting ready to head from PDX to Astoria to Longbeach Washington to visit friends. At that point, I will choose wether or not to go further. :) . Would be nice to talk with you about your trip and ask some questions.
Jeremy Cote (6 months ago)
I just found a video about a bike trailer that unfolds into a tent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlj6IgC0POQ
Tadeusz Kozik (6 months ago)
Larger wheels, comfort and economy, save power.
Dan lee (2 months ago)
Larger wheels do not save power.
Jack Butler (6 months ago)
Loving the videos, thanks a lot! One thing that would be cool if you tried to mention Wh more than Ah if possible!
Bikepacking (6 months ago)
This may be a dumb question but why do you need to go so fast why not take your time and just pedal and on some hard hill use the power ???
JohnnyNerdOut (6 months ago)
Time was a factor, I wanted to reach the coast within a day. If I had a week to do the trip I would've gone slower.
Bikepacking (6 months ago)
down load motion x gps and you have a map even of line any where in the world
Pașca Alexandru (7 months ago)
Keep it up, get larger wheels. Y U NO LIKE CATS? :))) I live and hike and bike where bears roam. Not once, ever, had I sweat over it. I saw bears, bears saw me, I saw cubs, mamma was pissed, but all in all no one held a grudge. Chill and relax.
banksmoney1 (8 months ago)
very cool inspirational adventure solo, awesome job that was badass.
Brian Bassett (9 months ago)
You fell prey to the Gods of speed. PAS 1, say it with me. PAS 1, and only PAS 1 unless you are riding out of a base camp with over-night power available. Long-distance ebike riding is slow riding. If you would have kept the speed to 10 mph you wouldn't have had to stop so often to power-up. I use a BBS02 (since it's 1 h.p. and actually legal to ride in America) and have it set to the lowest possible output on both PAS and on the throttle. You have to control the urge to "sail". The only real option for long distance ebiking touring/camping is an unfortunate one, that being you have to carry more gear. It's a horrible Catch 22. Another battery at the least and that probably means the use of a trailer. One positive aspect of scaling up is that you can carry a solar panel and take more luxuries and simple amenities, and even a few toys. All ya have to do is spend the money and always remember PAS 1 when traveling. - https://imgur.com/a/zXXlyuv
allen schmitz (4 months ago)
Thats what I said PAS 1 AND USE THE GEARS..
Brian Bassett (7 months ago)
@portnuefflyer I agree that the throttle allows very accurate and even power application at the lowest possible setting when used with a light touch. I can use just throttle when in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic, like the Golden Gate Bridge, and have very good control. But I don't ever use "just" throttle when starting out or when climbing. Anytime I am ascending anything I am adding torque by peddling to help conserve battery power. I just installed an Eggrider on my BBS02 today (I have 1... never been able to ride more than one bike at a time). It has 9 levels of assist like the BaFang displays allow but you can dial in each level by both how much assistance is provided and how gradual that power is applied to the chain. Meaning you can apply 100% power but slow enough not to damage anything. The settings to the PAS and the throttle are independent of each other allowing even more precise adjustment. It also lets you set both Road and Off Road settings which is fantastic for touring with lots of weight. It collects and logs all battery data for up to three batteries and will hopefully help me learn how to extend my range even further.
portnuefflyer (7 months ago)
I never use PAS on my BBSHD rides, ( I have 3) only throttle, WHILE PEDALING though! I stress that, as it seems many think, as soon as the word throttle is mentioned, that throttle is ONLY being used. I go further, using less juice that way, then using PAS at whatever setting. My thumb can respond quicker and more sensitively the any pre set PAS mode. Speed kills range, no surprise there.
JohnnyNerdOut (9 months ago)
So right!
Kelly Herndon (10 months ago)
What happened to your Cyclone? Much better motor and you could use a 60V battery. I have a Mini Cyclone 2000w from Luna Cycles and going for long rides burned up the BBSHD I used to have.
Jim Busick (4 months ago)
Wow! you burned up a BBSHD?! Jack Butler went 13,00 KM with the same setup as Johnny. https://youtu.be/FgYoatzfJlI
JohnnyNerdOut (10 months ago)
I sold it. I liked that motor a lot, especially the power potential. However I've found the bbshd to be way more refined and better suited for a daily commuter with the PAS and all. I still have plans for another cyclone build, but as a more motorcycle based bike.
Gyl Bonus (10 months ago)
Epic savage solo trip. Next time use a 29er....either way great video.
John quik (10 months ago)
What a trek, great job! Even with a huge battery you still need a spare to do such a long trip like that. Love your videos. Keep it up.